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yoshi |
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Today, 04:57 AM
Last post by: yoshi |
been doing lots of searching, and haven't been able to find any pics of a 2.0 or 2.5 subi motor set up as a mid engine, anyone have any?
been doing lots of searching, and haven't been able to find any pics of a 2.0 or 2.5 subi motor set up as a mid engine, anyone have any?
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xtatdsm |
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Today, 03:06 AM
Last post by: xtatdsm |
Hello guys,
first of all I would like to complement the great effort put into this great forum.
secondly, I have to admit that I am a newbie when it comes to sandrails, however, I am far from being new to sand ( I live in the United Arab Emirates and we have nothing but sand
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anyways, a couple of friends of mine and I are in the market for mini sandrails, and for that I have spent the past 2 weeks reading all about mini sandrails (hayabusa powered ones is what we are after) and came up to the following conclusions/observations.
- we will go with one of the top three manufactures for the category we are after (busa powered mini rails) and these as I think you all would agree are King Sand Cars, Tom Pro Design, and Sinister.
- I have contacted all three and they all are very pleasant people and sure as hell build quality products, so at this point, pricing is going to be our main deciding factor (with some exception to that)
- a lot of people discourage going with reverse gear, but for us, and because of the type of dunes that we have (very long and steep) we have to have reverse for situations where you get stuck at the very top of a steep dune and your only way out is to backup, and if you do that manual by getting out of the car and push it back, it will just run down the dune and be totaled by the time it reaches the bottom. for this reason, we really have to have the ability to backup while being in the rail.
- Jeffeco seems to be the prefered brand when it comes to reverse gears.
- Tom Pro Design and Yoshi seem to have more cars with reverse gears in them as opposed to King Sand Cars. Brain at KSC does not use them for a very good reason for sure, but as I stated above, we just can't live without it. he did mention that he has installed reverse gears for a customer in the past and has no problem installing them if we require.
now the question is, does anyone know what brand reverse gear does Tom use in his rails? all what it says in his website is "Tom Pro reverse box", so I am assuming it's either built by or for him specifically. are you guys aware of any reliability issues with Tom's reverse box ?
aside from the above, we would really appreciate any input that will help us decide on which rail/brand from what we mentioned above to go for.
thanks
Hello guys,
first of all I would like to complement the great effort put into this great forum.
secondly, I have to admit that I am a newbie when it comes to sandrails, however, I am far from being new to sand ( I live in the United Arab Emirates and we have nothing but sand
)
anyways, a couple of friends of mine and I are in the market for mini sandrails, and for that I have spent the past 2 weeks reading all about mini sandrails (hayabusa powered ones is what we are after) and came up to the following conclusions/observations.
- we will go with one of the top three manufactures for the category we are after (busa powered mini rails) and these as I think you all would agree are King Sand Cars, Tom Pro Design, and Sinister.
- I have contacted all three and they all are very pleasant people and sure as hell build quality products, so at this point, pricing is going to be our main deciding factor (with some exception to that)
- a lot of people discourage going with reverse gear, but for us, and because of the type of dunes that we have (very long and steep) we have to have reverse for situations where you get stuck at the very top of a steep dune and your only way out is to backup, and if you do that manual by getting out of the car and push it back, it will just run down the dune and be totaled by the time it reaches the bottom. for this reason, we really have to have the ability to backup while being in the rail.
- Jeffeco seems to be the prefered brand when it comes to reverse gears.
- Tom Pro Design and Yoshi seem to have more cars with reverse gears in them as opposed to King Sand Cars. Brain at KSC does not use them for a very good reason for sure, but as I stated above, we just can't live without it. he did mention that he has installed reverse gears for a customer in the past and has no problem installing them if we require.
now the question is, does anyone know what brand reverse gear does Tom use in his rails? all what it says in his website is "Tom Pro reverse box", so I am assuming it's either built by or for him specifically. are you guys aware of any reliability issues with Tom's reverse box ?
aside from the above, we would really appreciate any input that will help us decide on which rail/brand from what we mentioned above to go for.
thanks
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Yesterday, 11:58 PM
Last post by: LA Night Train |
Just pulled the wheels apart to clean um up and was wondering what you guys were torqueing these bad chickens down too...there an omf 17 in douglas
scalloped beadlock....
thanks fellas!!!!
Just pulled the wheels apart to clean um up and was wondering what you guys were torqueing these bad chickens down too...there an omf 17 in douglas
scalloped beadlock....
thanks fellas!!!!
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Frog Island |
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Yesterday, 11:03 PM
Last post by: PetesZ400 |
Well, here is the simple explanation. Had a motor sitting in the corner of the shop for a year or three. Got the space and most of the tools. The weather is crappy for outside projects so in the shop I go. Figured it would be fun and I like to build stuff. Would be fun to drive. The guy's could all come over and help. Keeps me out of the tavern. We have no children so we might as well spend every dime.
These are all the reasons I told my wife as I explained this new car. Actually she really didn't care either way.
We have a Funco now that we love. Since it's pretty much just the way we want it and I still need something to occupy my mind I decided I needed another project.
Never built a sand car before so I will have to learn along the way.
So here we go.....
Bought this 05 Hayabusa motor in late 2005. I was going to build a car then but decided after a test ride at Winchester Bay dunes from King Sand Cars to just get one of their cars instead.
[attachment=380191:Kingco_p...8_09_012.JPG]
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Well, here is the simple explanation. Had a motor sitting in the corner of the shop for a year or three. Got the space and most of the tools. The weather is crappy for outside projects so in the shop I go. Figured it would be fun and I like to build stuff. Would be fun to drive. The guy's could all come over and help. Keeps me out of the tavern. We have no children so we might as well spend every dime.
These are all the reasons I told my wife as I explained this new car. Actually she really didn't care either way.
We have a Funco now that we love. Since it's pretty much just the way we want it and I still need something to occupy my mind I decided I needed another project.
Never built a sand car before so I will have to learn along the way.
So here we go.....
Bought this 05 Hayabusa motor in late 2005. I was going to build a car then but decided after a test ride at Winchester Bay dunes from King Sand Cars to just get one of their cars instead.
[attachment=380191:Kingco_p...8_09_012.JPG]
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Yesterday, 09:51 PM
Last post by: journeyman |
I've heard a lot about carbon fiber, and it seems VERY popular (note: I did NOT use the word "fad"), everyone is singing its praises, but what is the real deal?
How does it compare to fiberglass when looking at weight and strength? Steel? Aluminum?
I often come across phrases like this:
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Five times stronger than steel and a heck of a lot lighter, carbon fiber is making its way into more cars than ever before.
This meaningless drivel is at best misleading, but I really don't know how carbon fiber stacks up against other materials... Can someone enlighten me with some REAL specifications comparing it to fiberglass and other materials?
I am purposefully leaving out of this discussion ANY talk of cost. That is another issue entirely.
All I care about at this point is REAL specifications.
I've heard a lot about carbon fiber, and it seems VERY popular (note: I did NOT use the word "fad"), everyone is singing its praises, but what is the real deal?
How does it compare to fiberglass when looking at weight and strength? Steel? Aluminum?
I often come across phrases like this:
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Five times stronger than steel and a heck of a lot lighter, carbon fiber is making its way into more cars than ever before.
This meaningless drivel is at best misleading, but I really don't know how carbon fiber stacks up against other materials... Can someone enlighten me with some REAL specifications comparing it to fiberglass and other materials?
I am purposefully leaving out of this discussion ANY talk of cost. That is another issue entirely.
All I care about at this point is REAL specifications.
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Koolage |
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Yesterday, 09:03 PM
Last post by: Frog Island |
Which one would you choose and why?
Whipple or Kenne Bell?
Which one would you choose and why?
Whipple or Kenne Bell?
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bigotis |
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Yesterday, 08:52 PM
Last post by: bigotis |
Installed my windshield last night with no problems got up this moring and there was a crack in it.Did not have to force it in.Went in with no problems.Has this happen to anybody let me know thanks.
Installed my windshield last night with no problems got up this moring and there was a crack in it.Did not have to force it in.Went in with no problems.Has this happen to anybody let me know thanks.
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LarDogs |
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Yesterday, 08:16 PM
Last post by: Mongo |
I have been using a custom made throttle cable that came with my motor when I bought the kit from Southwest. The cable broke over the weekend and I need to replace it . I want to use a moris cable so it is eazy to find if it goes bad. What are you guys using and how are you adapting to the throttle body. So lets see some pictures of how you did yours.
Thanks
I have been using a custom made throttle cable that came with my motor when I bought the kit from Southwest. The cable broke over the weekend and I need to replace it . I want to use a moris cable so it is eazy to find if it goes bad. What are you guys using and how are you adapting to the throttle body. So lets see some pictures of how you did yours.
Thanks
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Yesterday, 08:05 PM
Last post by: SANDPSYCHO |
I just had my turbo rebuilt and put back on car. I warmed it up and at 150 oil started to come out of the exhaust. Called the place and he stated that the inlet on the turbo is to big for the turbo and the extra oil has noware to go but out the seal. or the return is getting backed up because of kink or blockage. or there is alot of crank case pressure and its forcing alot of oil into the turbo and leaking out seal.
I had this car for 5 years 2.5 sub never had problem with lines before or oil comin from the exhaust or turbo housing until repair.
I checked for obstructions in crank case breather hose and return hose from turbo into oil pan. I did not find any.
I loaded vehicle up to show the lines to shop in the morning. Now the oil is coming out of the turbo housing.
Could there be to much crank case pressure causing this?
Is this the turbo and the seal was put in wrong?
Any suggesstions on what to look at?
Again, bringing the car to the shop in morning not a engine shop only a turbo place. Need to head them off at the pass if they start blaming other things..
I just had my turbo rebuilt and put back on car. I warmed it up and at 150 oil started to come out of the exhaust. Called the place and he stated that the inlet on the turbo is to big for the turbo and the extra oil has noware to go but out the seal. or the return is getting backed up because of kink or blockage. or there is alot of crank case pressure and its forcing alot of oil into the turbo and leaking out seal.
I had this car for 5 years 2.5 sub never had problem with lines before or oil comin from the exhaust or turbo housing until repair.
I checked for obstructions in crank case breather hose and return hose from turbo into oil pan. I did not find any.
I loaded vehicle up to show the lines to shop in the morning. Now the oil is coming out of the turbo housing.
Could there be to much crank case pressure causing this?
Is this the turbo and the seal was put in wrong?
Any suggesstions on what to look at?
Again, bringing the car to the shop in morning not a engine shop only a turbo place. Need to head them off at the pass if they start blaming other things..
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rowseracing |
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Yesterday, 06:57 PM
Last post by: desertbound |
I currently have a standard travel beam car and I was wondering if anyone has used the eagle performance kit for a conversion, I am trying to see if it is worth it or should I just do a mid travel beam conversion. Is there any other companies that offer an a arm conversion kit?
I currently have a standard travel beam car and I was wondering if anyone has used the eagle performance kit for a conversion, I am trying to see if it is worth it or should I just do a mid travel beam conversion. Is there any other companies that offer an a arm conversion kit?
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depoe74 |
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Yesterday, 06:13 PM
Last post by: philmc12 |
what engine oil should i use for my 1915cc sandrail. i was going to use castrol 10w 40 but i have heard that 20w 50 is better. i have also heard that motorcycle oil is better like amsoil. i have 10w 40 belray that i run in my vtx 1800. any advice?
what engine oil should i use for my 1915cc sandrail. i was going to use castrol 10w 40 but i have heard that 20w 50 is better. i have also heard that motorcycle oil is better like amsoil. i have 10w 40 belray that i run in my vtx 1800. any advice?
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wreck |
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Yesterday, 03:46 PM
Last post by: hillgraphics |
I was wondering what you guys think...... a technical question. Does slinding your car sideways and drifting it cause damage to the rear arms and pivot points? I ask this because of all the stress in these areas and with it sliding does it push and pull in these areas. Do you guys break tabs or arms or anything else. Give me any insight to this please.....thanks.
I was wondering what you guys think...... a technical question. Does slinding your car sideways and drifting it cause damage to the rear arms and pivot points? I ask this because of all the stress in these areas and with it sliding does it push and pull in these areas. Do you guys break tabs or arms or anything else. Give me any insight to this please.....thanks.
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BLAZNIT |
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Yesterday, 03:45 PM
Last post by: Kansas T |
Looking to upgrade my camshaft in my 4 seater approx 2500 lbs - LS1 with LS6 intake s4 mende. Any recommendations on Good Duning cam that will rev & pull to approx. 6400 rpm and who should I take to for tuning ( so cal area ) after I install the cam ?
These are the cams I am thinking about:
TSP XS Series Camshaft: 228/228, .588"/.588" Camshaft With 112 Lobe Separation.
TSP XS Series Camshaft: Torquer 2 232/234, .595"/.598" Camshaft With 112 or 113 Lobe Separation.
Anybody try one of these or something close in a sandcar ?
Looking to upgrade my camshaft in my 4 seater approx 2500 lbs - LS1 with LS6 intake s4 mende. Any recommendations on Good Duning cam that will rev & pull to approx. 6400 rpm and who should I take to for tuning ( so cal area ) after I install the cam ?
These are the cams I am thinking about:
TSP XS Series Camshaft: 228/228, .588"/.588" Camshaft With 112 Lobe Separation.
TSP XS Series Camshaft: Torquer 2 232/234, .595"/.598" Camshaft With 112 or 113 Lobe Separation.
Anybody try one of these or something close in a sandcar ?
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Kustomfab2003 |
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Yesterday, 01:48 PM
Last post by: livewire |
Does anyone know what a VW 3x3 trailing arm measures in length? I'm looking at using them on another project adn cant seem to find dimensions anywhere.
Also were the standard VW torsion housings staight or did that have a 7* bend?
Thanks,
Does anyone know what a VW 3x3 trailing arm measures in length? I'm looking at using them on another project adn cant seem to find dimensions anywhere.
Also were the standard VW torsion housings staight or did that have a 7* bend?
Thanks,
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scott 22 |
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Yesterday, 01:10 PM
Last post by: MQUnlimited |
Hey I having my 1915 turbo engine rebuild for the first time. Do I want to put in a windage tray.
Some people say vw motors already have one in them. Scat and bug pack empi all have them
for sell. What do you think? Thx for you help.
Hey I having my 1915 turbo engine rebuild for the first time. Do I want to put in a windage tray.
Some people say vw motors already have one in them. Scat and bug pack empi all have them
for sell. What do you think? Thx for you help.
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ANGRYBUTTCRACK |
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Yesterday, 12:49 PM
Last post by: DuneTrack-N |
Deanasaurus' GPS is in the same location, but his dash has it angled to the driver. I don't want to change the whole dash, just put in a doo-hicky so it is angled towards me. It can be plastic or maybe a metal guy can make me something we can chrome or sumptin'..
SupremeAir called me and I finally turned the unit on.. wow does it have cool features. I've never used it!
If someone makes a pre-fabbed deal cool, if not.. ideas?
Thanks,
abc
PS. Wife is forcing me to the snow (Big Bear). Missing Pres. Weekend for the second time so I won't see G for a month since my last trip (LAME!!).. car is home and want to do some thangs.. polish.. etc.
Deanasaurus' GPS is in the same location, but his dash has it angled to the driver. I don't want to change the whole dash, just put in a doo-hicky so it is angled towards me. It can be plastic or maybe a metal guy can make me something we can chrome or sumptin'..
SupremeAir called me and I finally turned the unit on.. wow does it have cool features. I've never used it!
If someone makes a pre-fabbed deal cool, if not.. ideas?
Thanks,
abc
PS. Wife is forcing me to the snow (Big Bear). Missing Pres. Weekend for the second time so I won't see G for a month since my last trip (LAME!!).. car is home and want to do some thangs.. polish.. etc.
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socalnaughtyboy |
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Yesterday, 12:17 PM
Last post by: Dizzle |
Anyone have good pics of Crinkle finish powder coating?
Thinking about doing it on a chassis & wanted to show it to mama. I think she would dig it!
Anyone have good pics of Crinkle finish powder coating?
Thinking about doing it on a chassis & wanted to show it to mama. I think she would dig it!
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Helmet Advise  12
Where is the best place to go and look at a big selection?
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MBMosebilt |
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Yesterday, 10:36 AM
Last post by: Rockwood |
Well on New Years eve my buddy rolled his car in the washes and he was air lifted to Palms Springs with major head trauma. He had surgery to remove shattered skull from his brain. The doctors do not see any other injuries or bleeding in the head. Yesterday they woke him up and he is talking a little. The doctors seem to think he will make some type of recovery but are not sure to what extent. He is not out of the woods by any means but there is a real positive optimism from the doctors.
I had been discussing getting helmets for me and my girlfriend for the last 2 months. I am for sure going to do it even if I have to wait until next season to get the intercom. Where is the best place to go and try all the different types of helmets on and there associated neck support systems? My girlfriend only weighs 132 lbs and I worry about the weight of the helmet.
Also Thanks to all the people who helped with my buddy that night. Especially the Emergency crews, the truck that called 911 and the two guys who towed his car back to camp.
Well on New Years eve my buddy rolled his car in the washes and he was air lifted to Palms Springs with major head trauma. He had surgery to remove shattered skull from his brain. The doctors do not see any other injuries or bleeding in the head. Yesterday they woke him up and he is talking a little. The doctors seem to think he will make some type of recovery but are not sure to what extent. He is not out of the woods by any means but there is a real positive optimism from the doctors.
I had been discussing getting helmets for me and my girlfriend for the last 2 months. I am for sure going to do it even if I have to wait until next season to get the intercom. Where is the best place to go and try all the different types of helmets on and there associated neck support systems? My girlfriend only weighs 132 lbs and I worry about the weight of the helmet.
Also Thanks to all the people who helped with my buddy that night. Especially the Emergency crews, the truck that called 911 and the two guys who towed his car back to camp.
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yoshi |
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Yesterday, 09:36 AM
Last post by: Mongo |
I'm designing a chassis to accept pretty much any motor tranny combination/configuration, so if you don't mind, i'd like to see any pics you have, and post what the engine and transmission are being shown. Doing this so I can kinda get an idea of where I could make a few key mount points for subframes, but the chassis would not have to change. If you have some more info, like measurements that would be cool also.
If this topic gets enough info, it would prob. be helpful to anyone who's wanting to do a build and would like to see what different options would look like and that could try to design around them. I've seen lots of topics asking for info on one powerplant/transmission or the other, so it would be nice to have them all organized into one topic for fast browsing.
Pictures i'm looking for are just of the motor compartment, and maybe some close up rear shots so all angles can be seen with exhaust, intakes, turbo's, etc......
So, mid engine, rear engine, cvt, automatic, hayabusa or LS7, it doesn't matter, just post up what ya go and give as much info as ya want.
Thank ya much........
so I guess i'll start.....
busa powerplant, Jeffco reverse.......
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[attachment=391231:rear_4.JPG]
Busa powerplant, RPM reverse......
[attachment=391232:5.JPG]
[attachment=391233:sxs_subframe_2.JPG]
I'm designing a chassis to accept pretty much any motor tranny combination/configuration, so if you don't mind, i'd like to see any pics you have, and post what the engine and transmission are being shown. Doing this so I can kinda get an idea of where I could make a few key mount points for subframes, but the chassis would not have to change. If you have some more info, like measurements that would be cool also.
If this topic gets enough info, it would prob. be helpful to anyone who's wanting to do a build and would like to see what different options would look like and that could try to design around them. I've seen lots of topics asking for info on one powerplant/transmission or the other, so it would be nice to have them all organized into one topic for fast browsing.
Pictures i'm looking for are just of the motor compartment, and maybe some close up rear shots so all angles can be seen with exhaust, intakes, turbo's, etc......
So, mid engine, rear engine, cvt, automatic, hayabusa or LS7, it doesn't matter, just post up what ya go and give as much info as ya want.
Thank ya much........
so I guess i'll start.....
busa powerplant, Jeffco reverse.......
[attachment=391230:wiring_2.JPG]
[attachment=391231:rear_4.JPG]
Busa powerplant, RPM reverse......
[attachment=391232:5.JPG]
[attachment=391233:sxs_subframe_2.JPG]
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boyd 8080 |
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Yesterday, 08:00 AM
Last post by: WildBill |
i bought a IMI 101 high torque starter and was wondering if it will work on my car. i will be using a 2d behind a ls 5.3. i looked at a couple of different sites and couldnt really get a clear answer. mixed answers is all i have gotten
i bought a IMI 101 high torque starter and was wondering if it will work on my car. i will be using a 2d behind a ls 5.3. i looked at a couple of different sites and couldnt really get a clear answer. mixed answers is all i have gotten
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Kustomfab2003 |
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Yesterday, 01:37 AM
Last post by: feedmelies |
Does anyone here have the dimensions for a Ecotec with CVT approximate dimensions. Looking at over the summer doing a swap to one and wonder if I will have the room or not. I currently have approx 31" deep x whatever is needed wide. I can always cut an extend as needed.
Does anyone here have the dimensions for a Ecotec with CVT approximate dimensions. Looking at over the summer doing a swap to one and wonder if I will have the room or not. I currently have approx 31" deep x whatever is needed wide. I can always cut an extend as needed.
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mosebilt |
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7th February 2010 - 08:36 PM
Last post by: mosebilt |
waiting on shocks....
waiting on shocks....
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7th February 2010 - 07:09 PM
Last post by: BigBlockTank |
ive been fortunate that i havent needed to replace a cv out in the dunes or back at camp... so my question is lets say your out in the dunes and want to replace a cv, so your replaceing a wheel cv.. can you just slap on the new cv with out clocking and be ok? last thing i would want to do is pull the tranny cv and make more of a mess and more time to clock the cv...
ive been fortunate that i havent needed to replace a cv out in the dunes or back at camp... so my question is lets say your out in the dunes and want to replace a cv, so your replaceing a wheel cv.. can you just slap on the new cv with out clocking and be ok? last thing i would want to do is pull the tranny cv and make more of a mess and more time to clock the cv...
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7th February 2010 - 06:25 PM
Last post by: king of the hill |
Id like to hear some input from people who have ran these shocks before. All input welcome. Id like to hear from someone that's compared them with fox or kings.
Thinking about some 2.0 10" dual rates for a beam front end.
Id like to hear some input from people who have ran these shocks before. All input welcome. Id like to hear from someone that's compared them with fox or kings.
Thinking about some 2.0 10" dual rates for a beam front end.
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7th February 2010 - 06:25 PM
Last post by: jasonpwms129 |
Thought I'd share. I sold my 2 seat in September to Gary and Jodi after I found this. I tried to buy the Sand Limo - Missile - car that was for sale for $40k (CBM 550, Albins, etc) I blew it,,,I knew that car was coming up for sale and was himming and haaing about buying it, When I finally made up my mind I called Joe, told him I wanted it and he had a check in his pocket!
The guy bought it 1 hour before I called
So I asked Joe if he knew of any other Cruisers for sale. He made a phone call and this is what I bought. You may recognize it, in 2005 there was an offroad show being pimped for tv called Speed Trap. This is the car, low hours, I do know there was some damage to the front end as it was stuffed but Joe fixed it and Nash touched up the paint.
2005, Cruiser, Turnkey TT LS1 with an S4. I had Joe add the roof, windshield (glass will be added after paint), dash and hood. Added the light bar, I have a Garmin GPS I got from TSL Performance, Rugged Race Radio/intercom/ipod setup. Had Bruce and Chris @ CBM dyno & tune the motor - I know you'll ask - it put 467 to the wheels - plenty for me (I'm not a big #'s guy). I got a set of STU Blasters from John Bishop - the xtremes weren't in good shape. The wheels are CMS and the fronts have a double bead lock - inside and out.
Been talking to Painter Joe about the new theme: Going to leave the chassis Green (I call it Granny Smith Candy Apple) all the panels and fiberglass will be flat charcoal grey with some geometric design (basic swashes, crisscross) in lighter grey and black pinstriped with the green and blue to tie in the King shocks. Probably do that over summer.
I think I'm going to take the wing off and do something small to finish off the back end to shorten the car so it will fit in the garage and I like them w/o the wing.
Here are some pics when it was new:
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Some when I saw it in July:
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and a quick cell phone shot of it with the fiberglass
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I'll get some better shots and then ask for the Photo Shop guys to play a little with the concept. Nothing too complicated,,,I'm a simple guy
Thought I'd share. I sold my 2 seat in September to Gary and Jodi after I found this. I tried to buy the Sand Limo - Missile - car that was for sale for $40k (CBM 550, Albins, etc) I blew it,,,I knew that car was coming up for sale and was himming and haaing about buying it, When I finally made up my mind I called Joe, told him I wanted it and he had a check in his pocket!
The guy bought it 1 hour before I called
So I asked Joe if he knew of any other Cruisers for sale. He made a phone call and this is what I bought. You may recognize it, in 2005 there was an offroad show being pimped for tv called Speed Trap. This is the car, low hours, I do know there was some damage to the front end as it was stuffed but Joe fixed it and Nash touched up the paint.
2005, Cruiser, Turnkey TT LS1 with an S4. I had Joe add the roof, windshield (glass will be added after paint), dash and hood. Added the light bar, I have a Garmin GPS I got from TSL Performance, Rugged Race Radio/intercom/ipod setup. Had Bruce and Chris @ CBM dyno & tune the motor - I know you'll ask - it put 467 to the wheels - plenty for me (I'm not a big #'s guy). I got a set of STU Blasters from John Bishop - the xtremes weren't in good shape. The wheels are CMS and the fronts have a double bead lock - inside and out.
Been talking to Painter Joe about the new theme: Going to leave the chassis Green (I call it Granny Smith Candy Apple) all the panels and fiberglass will be flat charcoal grey with some geometric design (basic swashes, crisscross) in lighter grey and black pinstriped with the green and blue to tie in the King shocks. Probably do that over summer.
I think I'm going to take the wing off and do something small to finish off the back end to shorten the car so it will fit in the garage and I like them w/o the wing.
Here are some pics when it was new:
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Some when I saw it in July:
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and a quick cell phone shot of it with the fiberglass
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I'll get some better shots and then ask for the Photo Shop guys to play a little with the concept. Nothing too complicated,,,I'm a simple guy
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7th February 2010 - 03:22 PM
Last post by: LooterPro |
Greetings....
Russ from BFD Offroad has started a new car for me as well (won't be near as nice as Sultan of Sand's) but it will be just what my family and I are looking for! Here are some of the details...
Length: 15.5 ft.
Wheelbase: 129 inches
Front Track width: 83 inches
Rear Track width: 85 inches w/dirt tires and 91 inches w/paddles
Weight: approx 2150 pounds
Engine: 350HP 5.3L V8
Trans: Mendeola 2D
The build is expected to take approximately 6 more weeks... most of the parts are ordered and the aluminum work should be wrapped up by next week, then off to Powder 1 in El Cajon for some color... We're hoping to have it out for Halloween for its maiden voyage and then down to pre-run the 1000 and take medical supplies to the Mexican firefighters and EMT's along the course route.
I only have a few pictures... The guy standing in the last one is Russ from BFD Offroad.
Dave
PS - any suggestions or ideas are always welcome!
Greetings....
Russ from BFD Offroad has started a new car for me as well (won't be near as nice as Sultan of Sand's) but it will be just what my family and I are looking for! Here are some of the details...
Length: 15.5 ft.
Wheelbase: 129 inches
Front Track width: 83 inches
Rear Track width: 85 inches w/dirt tires and 91 inches w/paddles
Weight: approx 2150 pounds
Engine: 350HP 5.3L V8
Trans: Mendeola 2D
The build is expected to take approximately 6 more weeks... most of the parts are ordered and the aluminum work should be wrapped up by next week, then off to Powder 1 in El Cajon for some color... We're hoping to have it out for Halloween for its maiden voyage and then down to pre-run the 1000 and take medical supplies to the Mexican firefighters and EMT's along the course route.
I only have a few pictures... The guy standing in the last one is Russ from BFD Offroad.
Dave
PS - any suggestions or ideas are always welcome!
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7th February 2010 - 10:21 AM
Last post by: havasukid41 |
has anyone had any expiernce with fortin cvs?
are they pretty good?
better than GKN?
better than the kar teks?
has anyone had any expiernce with fortin cvs?
are they pretty good?
better than GKN?
better than the kar teks?
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peak-j |
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7th February 2010 - 10:01 AM
Last post by: BigBlockTank |
Okay, I am needing a little help in the CV and Axle department. I broke a cv the other day, tore it down and the ends of the axles are rolled over against the spiral clips. I measered from the face of the trans. flange to the face of the wheel flange on both sides. The pass. side is an 1-1/2" shorter than the drivers side. So, the trans is offset that much I guess, because nothing is bent that I can tell on the trailing arm. Both axles are 22 inches long, which is way to tight on the pass. side. There is no clearance between the axle and flanges when it's put together. Now on the drivers side I can push the axle up in and out about 3/4". So I'm thinking, just buy all new CV's and new axles but where does a guys start to measure for length of the axles? How much clearance do you need between the axle and the flanges? I put up a few pics of the CVs, are those just a stock CV, they still say Germany on them, so I was wondering if they were a stock replacement for a porsche. They measure 4-1/4" across them. Also will it hurt anything running the two different lengths of axles? Here are a few pics, and thanks for any help or recommendations.
Okay, I am needing a little help in the CV and Axle department. I broke a cv the other day, tore it down and the ends of the axles are rolled over against the spiral clips. I measered from the face of the trans. flange to the face of the wheel flange on both sides. The pass. side is an 1-1/2" shorter than the drivers side. So, the trans is offset that much I guess, because nothing is bent that I can tell on the trailing arm. Both axles are 22 inches long, which is way to tight on the pass. side. There is no clearance between the axle and flanges when it's put together. Now on the drivers side I can push the axle up in and out about 3/4". So I'm thinking, just buy all new CV's and new axles but where does a guys start to measure for length of the axles? How much clearance do you need between the axle and the flanges? I put up a few pics of the CVs, are those just a stock CV, they still say Germany on them, so I was wondering if they were a stock replacement for a porsche. They measure 4-1/4" across them. Also will it hurt anything running the two different lengths of axles? Here are a few pics, and thanks for any help or recommendations.
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scotty_ |
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6th February 2010 - 09:49 PM
Last post by: Kevin |
did i miss the thread ?
or has this not been talked about yet ?
did i miss the thread ?
or has this not been talked about yet ?
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pharris |
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6th February 2010 - 07:45 PM
Last post by: adbrothers |
Excuse the dumb question, but what is the purpose of a breather, and why does mine blow oil out all over the engine ?
I have a 2180 VW motor that seems to blow oil, especially thru the whoops or extreme bouncing. Any suggestions appreciated. There are four
hoses to the breather, 2 from valve covers, 1 from oil fill neck, and one from the fuel pump block off plate.
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Excuse the dumb question, but what is the purpose of a breather, and why does mine blow oil out all over the engine ?
I have a 2180 VW motor that seems to blow oil, especially thru the whoops or extreme bouncing. Any suggestions appreciated. There are four
hoses to the breather, 2 from valve covers, 1 from oil fill neck, and one from the fuel pump block off plate.
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mosebilt |
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6th February 2010 - 11:10 AM
Last post by: Screamin Ian |
almost done!....come buy it!
...1.75" 4130 chassis,boxed 4130 front and rear, 120" wheelbase, takes Howe rack, 2" spindle snouts, rear floaters, fuel cell any motor/tyrans combo....race or play. 2 available chassis now.....
front suspension in pics of chassis is mock up-will come with uni-ball upper and lower with HD spindle-i enclosed 2 pics of it......
almost done!....come buy it!
...1.75" 4130 chassis,boxed 4130 front and rear, 120" wheelbase, takes Howe rack, 2" spindle snouts, rear floaters, fuel cell any motor/tyrans combo....race or play. 2 available chassis now.....
front suspension in pics of chassis is mock up-will come with uni-ball upper and lower with HD spindle-i enclosed 2 pics of it......
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matt86m |
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6th February 2010 - 09:03 AM
Last post by: AZSandAddict |
Would you or do you back your car onto / into the trailer? I know it's a cardinal sin to do it with a 2D. I have an S4 in a 4/5 seat Sand Limo and have a deck over flatbed trailer with the "ladder" ramps. I have a winch mount but no winch yet
The trailer is 16' and the car is 16 1/2' so all the weight is behind the axles and I get sway at 60-65. If I back it on it will handle better and I can back the engine cage over the rail and be able to put other stuff on the trailer.
Ideally I am going to sell this flatbed and get a 20' with a dove tail and with the axles moved back and all will be fine.
Let me know what you do, Thanks
Would you or do you back your car onto / into the trailer? I know it's a cardinal sin to do it with a 2D. I have an S4 in a 4/5 seat Sand Limo and have a deck over flatbed trailer with the "ladder" ramps. I have a winch mount but no winch yet
The trailer is 16' and the car is 16 1/2' so all the weight is behind the axles and I get sway at 60-65. If I back it on it will handle better and I can back the engine cage over the rail and be able to put other stuff on the trailer.
Ideally I am going to sell this flatbed and get a 20' with a dove tail and with the axles moved back and all will be fine.
Let me know what you do, Thanks
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Permagrin |
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5th February 2010 - 09:28 PM
Last post by: Kevin |
Decided I have had enough with the make a run fill it up routine so I ordered a 0-90 Ohm sending unit from Summit and a Autometer gauge to match my existing gauges..
Pulled out all the fuel lines and fuel cell to clean it up and found the pickup tube was deteriorating and clogging up the 100 micron Areomotive pre filter with rubber particles..
The post 10 micron filter was showing finer rubber as well so out it all came for a flush.
Flushed the tank and installed sender,gauge and extra bulkhead/pickup tube for a backup dipstick/siphon setup for future aux pump and transfer setup.
It will be nice to know how much fuel I have now...
Ready for Presidents
Decided I have had enough with the make a run fill it up routine so I ordered a 0-90 Ohm sending unit from Summit and a Autometer gauge to match my existing gauges..
Pulled out all the fuel lines and fuel cell to clean it up and found the pickup tube was deteriorating and clogging up the 100 micron Areomotive pre filter with rubber particles..
The post 10 micron filter was showing finer rubber as well so out it all came for a flush.
Flushed the tank and installed sender,gauge and extra bulkhead/pickup tube for a backup dipstick/siphon setup for future aux pump and transfer setup.
It will be nice to know how much fuel I have now...
Ready for Presidents
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Kevin |
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5th February 2010 - 08:28 PM
Last post by: Kevin |
i went and saw dave at desert dynamics today and pulled the trigger on a new 2 seater, should hit the jig in about a month. im just gettting a chassis and arms and spindles from them and im doing the rest. the chassis is a new version of theer current dual sport with higher side rails and a lower roof line, same suspension cept a bit more travel out of the front possibly. mine is going to be 1 3/4 chromolly with the fully boxed arms front and rear for the big midboards. its gonna be a mid engine with a smallblock chevy, a t350 or powerglide trans (gonna make it to be able to run either) and a 9 ingh based diff setup for cv's.
i went and saw dave at desert dynamics today and pulled the trigger on a new 2 seater, should hit the jig in about a month. im just gettting a chassis and arms and spindles from them and im doing the rest. the chassis is a new version of theer current dual sport with higher side rails and a lower roof line, same suspension cept a bit more travel out of the front possibly. mine is going to be 1 3/4 chromolly with the fully boxed arms front and rear for the big midboards. its gonna be a mid engine with a smallblock chevy, a t350 or powerglide trans (gonna make it to be able to run either) and a 9 ingh based diff setup for cv's.
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socalnaughtyboy |
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5th February 2010 - 07:16 PM
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yoshi |
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5th February 2010 - 04:52 PM
Last post by: zero |
If I was wanting to run a mid engine configuration with say an LS1 or a subi powerplant. What's the cheapest, yet decent transmission choice to go with? And no, as much as i'd like to i'm not to keen on flipping the 091 upside down to use it in my application...
If I was wanting to run a mid engine configuration with say an LS1 or a subi powerplant. What's the cheapest, yet decent transmission choice to go with? And no, as much as i'd like to i'm not to keen on flipping the 091 upside down to use it in my application...
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bpracing1127 |
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5th February 2010 - 09:07 AM
Last post by: bpracing1127 |
ok so what should be the egt operating temp for a ls2 be?
and maybe a more generic question what should it be on all engines? i am starting to learn how to tune engines is there a website that i can get this info off of?
ok so what should be the egt operating temp for a ls2 be?
and maybe a more generic question what should it be on all engines? i am starting to learn how to tune engines is there a website that i can get this info off of?
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Don29palms |
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5th February 2010 - 08:41 AM
Last post by: Squatcher |
What is needed to take an LS1 out of a car and put it in a sandrail? What needs to be done to the motor to get it ready to put in? Is there any company out there that can prep my motor? Thanks
What is needed to take an LS1 out of a car and put it in a sandrail? What needs to be done to the motor to get it ready to put in? Is there any company out there that can prep my motor? Thanks
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5th February 2010 - 07:51 AM
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Mike330R |
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4th February 2010 - 06:43 PM
Last post by: donparscale |
My turbo is getting sloppy. There is a fair amount of movement side to side on the impeller.
Is this something I can rebuild? If not who is good and reasonable on price?
What's the average cost assuming no major damage?
Here's a pic of it if it helps:
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My turbo is getting sloppy. There is a fair amount of movement side to side on the impeller.
Is this something I can rebuild? If not who is good and reasonable on price?
What's the average cost assuming no major damage?
Here's a pic of it if it helps:
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yoshi |
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4th February 2010 - 03:21 PM
Last post by: TACO |
Customer let me have leeway on the grafix, he just said he wanted fire and skulls. I figured out a design I wanted to go with and I have a local wrap shop doing the work. just got the roof back, he's working on the rest now.......
anywho, just felt like sharin......
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Customer let me have leeway on the grafix, he just said he wanted fire and skulls. I figured out a design I wanted to go with and I have a local wrap shop doing the work. just got the roof back, he's working on the rest now.......
anywho, just felt like sharin......
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gman |
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4th February 2010 - 12:21 PM
Last post by: Pozi |
Any ideas?
I have adjustable (sliding) seats in the buggy, the intent is so that me & momma can both drive it. Now, before you say "go get a his-n-hers", yeah duh I thought of that. However the checkbook is still smoking from this purchase.
SO - the sliding tracks are small & tightly fit, so the first time you hit the sand they jam up. Only way to clear it is to take the seat out, air blast like crazy, and reinstall.
Anyone designed a 'sand resistant' seat slider? I have some ideas if anyone can machine it -- for example
2 steel or billet aluminum L-shaped rails, probably 1.5"x1.5"x20". Use a couple of nylon roller bearings. Attach one L to the seat, the other to the floor. Rollers on the seat's L. Machine tracks in the car's L like this u-u-u-----u-u-u and maybe even vary the depth of the "u" so that for momma it's shallow and for me it's deeper so our ride heights are similar. Maybe instead of a U the slot is more of an L so the seat somewhat locks in a position easily. Then a short forward push, lift up and then slide forward or back to the next slot to adjust....
Drill holes along the way so that you can insert some kind of locking pin so the seat won't move when you've selected a ride spot.
Anyone seen something like this? Or do you have ideas on how to 'sand proof' a slider?
Drop me a note.
Any ideas?
I have adjustable (sliding) seats in the buggy, the intent is so that me & momma can both drive it. Now, before you say "go get a his-n-hers", yeah duh I thought of that. However the checkbook is still smoking from this purchase.
SO - the sliding tracks are small & tightly fit, so the first time you hit the sand they jam up. Only way to clear it is to take the seat out, air blast like crazy, and reinstall.
Anyone designed a 'sand resistant' seat slider? I have some ideas if anyone can machine it -- for example
2 steel or billet aluminum L-shaped rails, probably 1.5"x1.5"x20". Use a couple of nylon roller bearings. Attach one L to the seat, the other to the floor. Rollers on the seat's L. Machine tracks in the car's L like this u-u-u-----u-u-u and maybe even vary the depth of the "u" so that for momma it's shallow and for me it's deeper so our ride heights are similar. Maybe instead of a U the slot is more of an L so the seat somewhat locks in a position easily. Then a short forward push, lift up and then slide forward or back to the next slot to adjust....
Drill holes along the way so that you can insert some kind of locking pin so the seat won't move when you've selected a ride spot.
Anyone seen something like this? Or do you have ideas on how to 'sand proof' a slider?
Drop me a note.
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stetler |
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4th February 2010 - 11:05 AM
Last post by: stetler |
Ok, So I bought a Brand New Lowrance 840c GPS a few months ago and finally finished my buggy build. So 2 weeks ago I was in Glamis and trying to use this but no luck.
The GPS keeps going into "DEMO MODE" . When I try to Synchronize the satellites, It tells me it can't be done while in Simulation mode. So I go into that screen and turn off the Simulation Mode ( 2 separate Simulation options) and then go back to the Synchronize GPS and it searches for about 5 seconds and goes right back into DEMO MODE.
And yes my remote antenna is hooked up and sitting out in plain view.
Does any other member here have this same GPS and know how to set it up? Any Chance of you being in Glamis next weekend for Pres day ??
Ok, So I bought a Brand New Lowrance 840c GPS a few months ago and finally finished my buggy build. So 2 weeks ago I was in Glamis and trying to use this but no luck.
The GPS keeps going into "DEMO MODE" . When I try to Synchronize the satellites, It tells me it can't be done while in Simulation mode. So I go into that screen and turn off the Simulation Mode ( 2 separate Simulation options) and then go back to the Synchronize GPS and it searches for about 5 seconds and goes right back into DEMO MODE.
And yes my remote antenna is hooked up and sitting out in plain view.
Does any other member here have this same GPS and know how to set it up? Any Chance of you being in Glamis next weekend for Pres day ??
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TNTDUNER |
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4th February 2010 - 08:50 AM
Last post by: TACO |
I called AGP, the maker of the wastegate on my turbo about getting a bigger spring to increase the boost on my Honda 3.3. They only offer two springs, their light spring, which I have now, which does 5-6 pounds and then their heavy spring which gets you to 10-12 pounds. I want to be in the middle somewhere, like 8 pounds. 10-12 is pushing the envelope on a stock 3.5.
Does anybody sell springs with a greater selection of boost levels or do I have to go to a variable boost controller to get to where I want to be in the 8 pounds area?
AGP recommended their manual boost controller. It just splices into the vacuum line going to the waste gate and then boost can be fine tuned up or down by adjusting a screw.
manual boost controllerI called AGP, the maker of the wastegate on my turbo about getting a bigger spring to increase the boost on my Honda 3.3. They only offer two springs, their light spring, which I have now, which does 5-6 pounds and then their heavy spring which gets you to 10-12 pounds. I want to be in the middle somewhere, like 8 pounds. 10-12 is pushing the envelope on a stock 3.5.
Does anybody sell springs with a greater selection of boost levels or do I have to go to a variable boost controller to get to where I want to be in the 8 pounds area?
AGP recommended their manual boost controller. It just splices into the vacuum line going to the waste gate and then boost can be fine tuned up or down by adjusting a screw.
manual boost controller
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blacksoda |
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4th February 2010 - 08:10 AM
Last post by: SUBIE4ME |
So I have a chance to get a 1980 VW vanogen. This comes with the T4 motor and unfortunately the side shift 091 transmission. Price is 300 bucks and it runs. Ive done some research and it looks like it's not worth the time and money to convert the side shift over to a nose shift.
I have a 1970 vw baja right now. Im going to cage the pan and run a 10" over beam with all foddrill front components and Im going to use 4x5 arms in the rear with 930's
Ive been trying to decide on a budget power plant. I was simply going to run a nice 1835 but it was suggested to me to run this T4 motor since the price is right and it will make way more HP than any 1835 I build.
Please advise?
So I have a chance to get a 1980 VW vanogen. This comes with the T4 motor and unfortunately the side shift 091 transmission. Price is 300 bucks and it runs. Ive done some research and it looks like it's not worth the time and money to convert the side shift over to a nose shift.
I have a 1970 vw baja right now. Im going to cage the pan and run a 10" over beam with all foddrill front components and Im going to use 4x5 arms in the rear with 930's
Ive been trying to decide on a budget power plant. I was simply going to run a nice 1835 but it was suggested to me to run this T4 motor since the price is right and it will make way more HP than any 1835 I build.
Please advise?
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Time2Dune |
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4th February 2010 - 08:06 AM
Last post by: CBM |
I have seen a few dune buggies with a clear plastic strip on the top bars that get scratched to protect the paint. Any one know where to get them? I think 3M makes them
I have seen a few dune buggies with a clear plastic strip on the top bars that get scratched to protect the paint. Any one know where to get them? I think 3M makes them
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revolution |
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3rd February 2010 - 11:16 PM
Last post by: socaldmax |
[attachmentid=37844][attachmentid=37845]Hello everyone,
Let me introduce myself. I am Brandon from Revolution Racing Shocks (also Brandon of Elite Off-Road Engineering…I have posted here several times in the past). I would like to let everyone in on a cool new product that we (along with Ryerson Racing Shocks) have been working on for about 2 years. What you are looking at is an Externally Adjustable Coil-Over Bypass shock. It is a 2.5" and has 4 stages. The third compression stage is as effective as a hydraulic bump stop. We have extensively tested these on several cars and they are working awesome. For everyone that would like to get a closer look, we will have several on display (and on a sand car) in our booth at the Sand Sports Super Show. We will also be producing a 3.0 and 4.0 in the near future. For all of the people who will give me a hard time for “advertising” here without being a sponsor…I have already placed a call and will be shortly. I think I should pay for advertising also. I am very excited about this product and want to share it with all on this board. We have been keeping it very quite all of this time….We don’t want to create hype about a product that has not been properly tested and developed.
Here are a few pics....let me know what you think!!!
[attachmentid=37844][attachmentid=37845]Hello everyone,
Let me introduce myself. I am Brandon from Revolution Racing Shocks (also Brandon of Elite Off-Road Engineering…I have posted here several times in the past). I would like to let everyone in on a cool new product that we (along with Ryerson Racing Shocks) have been working on for about 2 years. What you are looking at is an Externally Adjustable Coil-Over Bypass shock. It is a 2.5" and has 4 stages. The third compression stage is as effective as a hydraulic bump stop. We have extensively tested these on several cars and they are working awesome. For everyone that would like to get a closer look, we will have several on display (and on a sand car) in our booth at the Sand Sports Super Show. We will also be producing a 3.0 and 4.0 in the near future. For all of the people who will give me a hard time for “advertising” here without being a sponsor…I have already placed a call and will be shortly. I think I should pay for advertising also. I am very excited about this product and want to share it with all on this board. We have been keeping it very quite all of this time….We don’t want to create hype about a product that has not been properly tested and developed.
Here are a few pics....let me know what you think!!!
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xtcchoppers |
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3rd February 2010 - 10:38 PM
Last post by: madweazl |
Is anyone running them? How are they price wise? They look expensive, but you only have to run one shock versus 2. Does that make the cost (if they are more expensive) even out? And if they are lot more than say comparable Fox or King set up, is it worth it? They sure seem to be the hot set up. Looking at running possibly running these on my new build.
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Is anyone running them? How are they price wise? They look expensive, but you only have to run one shock versus 2. Does that make the cost (if they are more expensive) even out? And if they are lot more than say comparable Fox or King set up, is it worth it? They sure seem to be the hot set up. Looking at running possibly running these on my new build.
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