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[Romans9 View Member Profile]

After looking into these three aftermarket manufactures of LS blocks here is what I have found;

World Products
http://www.worldcastings.com/prods_pages/blocks/warhawk.htm

Cant verify but possibly cast in China, lots of problems, I have not talked to any reputable builders or machine shops that will recomend it. I talked to one today that told me when they had one on their C/K hone fitting it to the piston the liner came out.

$5500-6500 for a preped block tall or standard deck.

I would not use one at this time.

RHS (Racing Head Service) a division of Comp Cams
http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/...ory_Code=Blocks

Cast in New Zealand, machined in the States, first batch went out last week all tall deck. So far not any built yet but all of the first batch are sold. Time will tell, sound good and they have a good track record with most of their other products. 8-10 week lead time.

$4846 preped block either tall or standard deck height.

Dart Products
http://www.dartheads.com/products/engine-b...llet-block.html

Block manufactured from billet stock; no core shift and superior strength, built in the United States of America (not sure where their billet stock comes from). Very impressive to say the least. Did not get a comformation on how many have been built but the tech indicated a few. I talked to a builder that had one in the crate that was starting on it next week and he said he knew of several that where in use. 30 lbs boost- no problem according to Dart.

$8900 for any config you want 8 weeks lead time custom built to your specs.

[Supreme Air View Member Profile]

After looking into these three aftermarket manufactures of LS blocks here is what I have found;

World Products
http://www.worldcastings.com/prods_pages/blocks/warhawk.htm

Cant verify but possibly cast in China, lots of problems, I have not talked to any reputable builders or machine shops that will recomend it. I talked to one today that told me when they had one on their C/K hone fitting it to the piston the liner came out.

$5500-6500 for a preped block tall or standard deck.

I would not use one at this time.

RHS (Racing Head Service) a division of Comp Cams
http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/...ory_Code=Blocks

Cast in New Zealand, machined in the States, first batch went out last week all tall deck. So far not any built yet but all of the first batch are sold. Time will tell, sound good and they have a good track record with most of their other products. 8-10 week lead time.

$4846 preped block either tall or standard deck height.

Dart Products
http://www.dartheads.com/products/engine-b...llet-block.html

Block manufactured from billet stock; no core shift and superior strength, built in the United States of America (not sure where their billet stock comes from). Very impressive to say the least. Did not get a comformation on how many have been built but the tech indicated a few. I talked to a builder that had one in the crate that was starting on it next week and he said he knew of several that where in use. 30 lbs boost- no problem according to Dart.

$8900 for any config you want 8 weeks lead time custom built to your specs.

Are these all quotes from me Lol......

[Romans9 View Member Profile]

After looking into these three aftermarket manufactures of LS blocks here is what I have found;

World Products
http://www.worldcastings.com/prods_pages/blocks/warhawk.htm

Cant verify but possibly cast in China, lots of problems, I have not talked to any reputable builders or machine shops that will recomend it. I talked to one today that told me when they had one on their C/K hone fitting it to the piston the liner came out.

$5500-6500 for a preped block tall or standard deck.

I would not use one at this time.

RHS (Racing Head Service) a division of Comp Cams
http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/...ory_Code=Blocks

Cast in New Zealand, machined in the States, first batch went out last week all tall deck. So far not any built yet but all of the first batch are sold. Time will tell, sound good and they have a good track record with most of their other products. 8-10 week lead time.

$4846 preped block either tall or standard deck height.

Dart Products
http://www.dartheads.com/products/engine-b...llet-block.html

Block manufactured from billet stock; no core shift and superior strength, built in the United States of America (not sure where their billet stock comes from). Very impressive to say the least. Did not get a comformation on how many have been built but the tech indicated a few. I talked to a builder that had one in the crate that was starting on it next week and he said he knew of several that where in use. 30 lbs boost- no problem according to Dart.

$8900 for any config you want 8 weeks lead time custom built to your specs.

Are these all quotes from me Lol......

Go ahead and post one of your boring videos in here................. oh wait your LSX car ain't done yet!...... J/K

This is the result of about 6 hours on my phone bill. RHS was the worst. No one would say for sure that the World blocks where cast in China but everyone that had experience with one snickered at the mention of it.

This post has been edited by Romans9: May 14 2009, 08:43 PM

[Supreme Air View Member Profile]

Hope you find good info...

[Romans9 View Member Profile]

Hope you find good info...

Is Tatum putting your TT LSX together? I thought you posted that they where and that they had a dyno to tune it. What fuel system and computer are you using?

[mpfi632 View Member Profile]

World products has always seemed to have a poor track record on any of there alumium blocks, I've never heard anything good over the years. It wouldn't suprise me if all there blocks were cast in China probably from Chinese ingots. When I set out to start my BBC project I definitely thought Dart had there act together. Not to mention Dick Maskin the owner of Dart was the back bone for alot of the NHRA prostock teams, he was the head crew chief for the Jegs team for awhile, and there engine builder too, I'm sure that makes for some good r&d!

This post has been edited by mpfi632: May 14 2009, 08:53 PM

[saychz316 View Member Profile]

none of the above. i will take a donovan big block chevy complete from sonny leonard. only 90k. anyone else wanna step up? want the ultimate drag motor on gasoline, no turbos, no nitrous? give him a hollar. 900"+ motors. get it.....

for those that think 90k aint bad, you can build a top alcohol or a top fuel motor with all of the best part available these days, for less than that.

[Romans9 View Member Profile]

World products has always seemed to have a poor track record on any of there alumium blocks, I've never heard anything good over the years. It wouldn't suprise me if all there blocks were cast in China probably from Chinese ingots. When I set out to start my BBC project I definitely thought Dart had there act together. Not to mention Dick Maskin the owner of Dart was the back bone for alot of the NHRA prostock teams, he was the head crew chief for the Jegs team for awhile, and there engine builder too, I'm sure that makes for some good r&d!

Yes priceless experience.

Dart was very helpful on the phone and the guy answering it knew every question I had instantly unlike some of the others I have delt with in the past.

[twoduners11 View Member Profile]

what about the lsx? seems like alot of money for what i think is a 90lb diff?

[nosocks View Member Profile]

what about the lsx? seems like alot of money for what i think is a 90lb diff?

that's a lot of weight in one particular spot.

[madweazl View Member Profile]

A turbo setup would equal 90lbs I imagine. If you're going N/A I dont think it would be a big deal.

[Sandzilla View Member Profile]

After looking into these three aftermarket manufactures of LS blocks here is what I have found;

World Products
http://www.worldcastings.com/prods_pages/blocks/warhawk.htm

Cant verify but possibly cast in China, lots of problems, I have not talked to any reputable builders or machine shops that will recomend it. I talked to one today that told me when they had one on their C/K hone fitting it to the piston the liner came out.

$5500-6500 for a preped block tall or standard deck.

I would not use one at this time.

RHS (Racing Head Service) a division of Comp Cams
http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/...ory_Code=Blocks

Cast in New Zealand, machined in the States, first batch went out last week all tall deck. So far not any built yet but all of the first batch are sold. Time will tell, sound good and they have a good track record with most of their other products. 8-10 week lead time.

$4846 preped block either tall or standard deck height.

Dart Products
http://www.dartheads.com/products/engine-b...llet-block.html

Block manufactured from billet stock; no core shift and superior strength, built in the United States of America (not sure where their billet stock comes from). Very impressive to say the least. Did not get a comformation on how many have been built but the tech indicated a few. I talked to a builder that had one in the crate that was starting on it next week and he said he knew of several that where in use. 30 lbs boost- no problem according to Dart.

$8900 for any config you want 8 weeks lead time custom built to your specs.

Here's another little bit of data for ya... Remember this video? > http://videos.streetfire.net/video/LSX-Blo...P-on_168394.htm I heard they completely destroyed this engine no less than FIVE TIMES before they got it to live! There are issues with the LSX block too, don't anyone kid ya. Sure, all this stuff looks simple, if you don't see what it took to get there.

Zilla

[Romans9 View Member Profile]

After looking into these three aftermarket manufactures of LS blocks here is what I have found;

World Products
http://www.worldcastings.com/prods_pages/blocks/warhawk.htm

Cant verify but possibly cast in China, lots of problems, I have not talked to any reputable builders or machine shops that will recomend it. I talked to one today that told me when they had one on their C/K hone fitting it to the piston the liner came out.

$5500-6500 for a preped block tall or standard deck.

I would not use one at this time.

RHS (Racing Head Service) a division of Comp Cams
http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/...ory_Code=Blocks

Cast in New Zealand, machined in the States, first batch went out last week all tall deck. So far not any built yet but all of the first batch are sold. Time will tell, sound good and they have a good track record with most of their other products. 8-10 week lead time.

$4846 preped block either tall or standard deck height.

Dart Products
http://www.dartheads.com/products/engine-b...llet-block.html

Block manufactured from billet stock; no core shift and superior strength, built in the United States of America (not sure where their billet stock comes from). Very impressive to say the least. Did not get a comformation on how many have been built but the tech indicated a few. I talked to a builder that had one in the crate that was starting on it next week and he said he knew of several that where in use. 30 lbs boost- no problem according to Dart.

$8900 for any config you want 8 weeks lead time custom built to your specs.

Here's another little bit of data for ya... Remember this video? > http://videos.streetfire.net/video/LSX-Blo...P-on_168394.htm I heard they completely destroyed this engine no less than FIVE TIMES before they got it to live! There are issues with the LSX block too, don't anyone kid ya. Sure, all this stuff looks simple, if you don't see what it took to get there.

Zilla

Simple? I don't think so. Lots and lots of$$$$$$$$$$$ on R&D.

Do you know of any Warhawk engines that are "living"?

[tim mesic View Member Profile]

After looking into these three aftermarket manufactures of LS blocks here is what I have found;

World Products
http://www.worldcastings.com/prods_pages/blocks/warhawk.htm

Cant verify but possibly cast in China, lots of problems, I have not talked to any reputable builders or machine shops that will recomend it. I talked to one today that told me when they had one on their C/K hone fitting it to the piston the liner came out.

$5500-6500 for a preped block tall or standard deck.

I would not use one at this time.

RHS (Racing Head Service) a division of Comp Cams
http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/...ory_Code=Blocks

Cast in New Zealand, machined in the States, first batch went out last week all tall deck. So far not any built yet but all of the first batch are sold. Time will tell, sound good and they have a good track record with most of their other products. 8-10 week lead time.

$4846 preped block either tall or standard deck height.

Dart Products
http://www.dartheads.com/products/engine-b...llet-block.html

Block manufactured from billet stock; no core shift and superior strength, built in the United States of America (not sure where their billet stock comes from). Very impressive to say the least. Did not get a comformation on how many have been built but the tech indicated a few. I talked to a builder that had one in the crate that was starting on it next week and he said he knew of several that where in use. 30 lbs boost- no problem according to Dart.

$8900 for any config you want 8 weeks lead time custom built to your specs.

Here's another little bit of data for ya... Remember this video? > http://videos.streetfire.net/video/LSX-Blo...P-on_168394.htm I heard they completely destroyed this engine no less than FIVE TIMES before they got it to live! There are issues with the LSX block too, don't anyone kid ya. Sure, all this stuff looks simple, if you don't see what it took to get there.

Zilla

it sounded like he said "stock crank " , could that be and why ? tim

[Sandzilla View Member Profile]

After looking into these three aftermarket manufactures of LS blocks here is what I have found;

World Products
http://www.worldcastings.com/prods_pages/blocks/warhawk.htm

Cant verify but possibly cast in China, lots of problems, I have not talked to any reputable builders or machine shops that will recomend it. I talked to one today that told me when they had one on their C/K hone fitting it to the piston the liner came out.

$5500-6500 for a preped block tall or standard deck.

I would not use one at this time.

RHS (Racing Head Service) a division of Comp Cams
http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/...ory_Code=Blocks

Cast in New Zealand, machined in the States, first batch went out last week all tall deck. So far not any built yet but all of the first batch are sold. Time will tell, sound good and they have a good track record with most of their other products. 8-10 week lead time.

$4846 preped block either tall or standard deck height.

Dart Products
http://www.dartheads.com/products/engine-b...llet-block.html

Block manufactured from billet stock; no core shift and superior strength, built in the United States of America (not sure where their billet stock comes from). Very impressive to say the least. Did not get a comformation on how many have been built but the tech indicated a few. I talked to a builder that had one in the crate that was starting on it next week and he said he knew of several that where in use. 30 lbs boost- no problem according to Dart.

$8900 for any config you want 8 weeks lead time custom built to your specs.

Here's another little bit of data for ya... Remember this video? > http://videos.streetfire.net/video/LSX-Blo...P-on_168394.htm I heard they completely destroyed this engine no less than FIVE TIMES before they got it to live! There are issues with the LSX block too, don't anyone kid ya. Sure, all this stuff looks simple, if you don't see what it took to get there.

Zilla

Simple? I don't think so. Lots and lots of$$$$$$$$$$$ on R&D.

Do you know of any Warhawk engines that are "living"?

I don't know. I was hot for those Warhawk blocks before they came out. Now that they are out, I wouldn't touch one <(In my opinion they are junk)


Zilla

[Sandzilla View Member Profile]

After looking into these three aftermarket manufactures of LS blocks here is what I have found;

World Products
http://www.worldcastings.com/prods_pages/blocks/warhawk.htm

Cant verify but possibly cast in China, lots of problems, I have not talked to any reputable builders or machine shops that will recomend it. I talked to one today that told me when they had one on their C/K hone fitting it to the piston the liner came out.

$5500-6500 for a preped block tall or standard deck.

I would not use one at this time.

RHS (Racing Head Service) a division of Comp Cams
http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/...ory_Code=Blocks

Cast in New Zealand, machined in the States, first batch went out last week all tall deck. So far not any built yet but all of the first batch are sold. Time will tell, sound good and they have a good track record with most of their other products. 8-10 week lead time.

$4846 preped block either tall or standard deck height.

Dart Products
http://www.dartheads.com/products/engine-b...llet-block.html

Block manufactured from billet stock; no core shift and superior strength, built in the United States of America (not sure where their billet stock comes from). Very impressive to say the least. Did not get a comformation on how many have been built but the tech indicated a few. I talked to a builder that had one in the crate that was starting on it next week and he said he knew of several that where in use. 30 lbs boost- no problem according to Dart.

$8900 for any config you want 8 weeks lead time custom built to your specs.

Here's another little bit of data for ya... Remember this video? > http://videos.streetfire.net/video/LSX-Blo...P-on_168394.htm I heard they completely destroyed this engine no less than FIVE TIMES before they got it to live! There are issues with the LSX block too, don't anyone kid ya. Sure, all this stuff looks simple, if you don't see what it took to get there.

Zilla

it sounded like he said "stock crank " , could that be and why ? tim

I don't know. But this is something to keep in mind when picking engine components. (facts with opinions mixed in)

Cheaper parts can live along side of expensive parts but with cheaper parts, you lose the insurance you have with the more expensive better quality part.

In a perfect world, nothing goes wrong. The air/fuel ration is always perfect. You have plenty of oil pressure. the tolerances are perfect. You never get a bad/weak tank of gas. You never overheat your engine. You never over rev your engine... blah, blah, blah... You get the picture. It's the non perfect world that will find the weak link in your engine.

Good parts will withstand the "bad day" a lot better than a cheap or OEM part... Lean out a cheap piston... buh-by piston. Lean out a billet piston and most of the time it will survive <(up to a point of course) Detonation will flatten a piston, bend a rod and can even bend or brake a crank. Cheap parts don't stand a chance.

Back in the day, when I didn't have a pot to piss in, all I could afford were the cheap off the shelf TRW forged pistons. I'd screw up a few of those cheap suckers every few months. Just a little detonation would push the top of the piston down and it would pinch the top compression ring... Nothing you could do but pull the piston and slap another in there. Then I finally saved up for a set of BRC billet pistons. Good GAWD I was one happy little street racing punk! I put those bad boys in there and beat the ever livin' crap outta them and they never failed. When I sold that engine they were still in there and going strong. Point>(You buy the same cheap parts over and over. You buy good parts just one time)

JMHO,

Zilla