The WOTM Rhino got some new additions this week:

New Metallic Black LSR XTR Arms




I also got a PDM Clutch from Kelly as well. NIGHT and DAY difference. The Rhino launches way harder and pulls all the way to 64mph+ now. It used to lug around on the stock clutch and slip it hard. This clutch isn't available to the public yet either but it's badass and works VERY well. It drives like a whole new animal now. Now I can wait on the 760cc..... haha. I can't believe how much harder it runs now.

If anyone has questions let me know.


Thanks Greg and Kelly!!!!

can you post pics of the clutch installed?

thanks,

Cory

I will ask Kelly before I post pics. I know it works better than the other aftermarket clutches on the market for sure:)

Here are some more pics from today. I also put on the upgraded LSR Tie Rods

I've had 4 different LT kits on my Rhino in 700 miles. All of them have been great. Hopefully this will be the last though:) I can't wait for this weekend!!!

Post what you want

Ok. I'll snap a pic of the clutch here in a sec...

Lets see some full on side shots of that thing!

Eric

Eric, my cage and sides are temporary for right now. After this weekend I'll be doing a full chassis. I'll post pics as it gets done soon!

Here are some pics of the clutch

Eric, this is how it looks right now. We did this setup to race at the SandFest and This weekend.

Sick cage

Thanks! The doors are removable too! This setup will be for sale after this weekend and I'll powder coat it any color the buyer wants. Full chassis needs to get sometime or another:)

Nice looking setup. It looks very sporty.

Is there more info available on the clutch? Have you had any problems running without the clutch cover?

Please stay on topic, it was requested.

I took all the posts regarding a different subject and moved them to this:

http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index....p;#entry2254660

What info are you looking for?

No one has had issues with running with no cover yet. You can mod the stock one and Fullbore is going to make a piece that will bolt to the stock one since this clutch extends out farther. There's no grease in this setup to melt out and get dirty with sand/dirt so you don't have to worry about that.

I was just looking for general info on the clutch, what's different about it from the stock one and pricing, though since it's a Comet, I can SWAG that.

I was just recommending to someone the other day about running without the cover. I've done it with other CVT vehicles in the past with no problems and couldn't see any reason not to in the Rhino unless you're planning to run through deep water. It's good to see there's some tangible evidence to that.

Basic info:

PDM Custom billet adaptors
PDM hardened shafts
Comet Clutch
EPI Belts
No more wet clutch
No more slimey grease
No more slipping belts
No more destroying stock belts from slipping and heating them up
No more cracking/breaking stock sheaves
No more clutch problems:)
And it will work with any turbo Rhino motor and will hold over 100hp easy


Oh yes, and Patent Pending!!!!

This clutch also allows you stall the motor up higher and when it engages it leaves MUCH harder than a stock clutch setup. It is also adjustable for low end, top end, stall, etc. It's tunable

There are so many benefits to this clutch I think of a new one all the time:)

Id like some of that info too! Looks promising!

do you have to remove the crank to get it on?

No and if you did I don't think one would ever sell.

Hhhmmm... I guess I heard incorrect about this one and possibly the Alba version about the crank needing to be removed to get it installed... which is definitely a turn-off.

PDM's is 100% Bolt on and you do NOT have to remove the crank to install. It takes the average person about 1.5 hours to install.

Btw.... "Patent Pending"

Sounds good, I'll take two !
Actually I don't like the idea of running without the cover. I had a bolt come loose in there and banged around before it got caught up, only about 5 seconds, and it put dings everywhere. I'm hoping it doesn't drastically reduce any performance or I need to order another sheave and the thin piece on the opposite side.

But I can only imagine if rocks constantly ended up in there. I know you mention a mod for the stock cover so it all fits. Then I'd be game for sure.

You will be able to mod the stock cover and put the Fullbore piece on it to keep the entire assembly covered. You're good to go:)

The clutch kit will also be offered with and without the Fullbore piece if anyone wants to run it open.

WOTM will be taking preorders as of today for this clutch. Pricing will be $1500 for the Kit with cover, $1400 without it.

If anyone wants my cage, doors, seats, seat bases and belts it's all for sale now. PM me for details

Whoa. That's about 3x what I was expecting it to cost. No offense, but that seems pricey.
Do you have pics of the PDM components?

I don't set pricing, PDM does and with all the time spent on making it work it's really not that much with all the parts included. I don't have any other pics at this time.

Everyone who wants to be competitive and have the ability to clutch for different tracks or terrain will need this clutch setup.Also now that people are getting more hp out of there rhinos they will definately need this.My friends rhino was dynoed the other day and would start slipping the clutchso bad you couldnot get any hp #s.The slipping is even worse when you add hp plus oversize tires.Alot of people are slipping the internal wet clutch and dont even know it. Its just a matter of time before everyone will have these clutches.If ya aint first your last (ricky bobby) second place is the first loser...

I agree - Kelly(PDM) knows his stuff - his clutch was just redesigned with new materials - he has been testing and testing and testing before even THINKING of releasing this clutch. Very cautious guy - I like that. Not just interested in the quick $.

The clutch is supposed to hook up very well - I am excited to see this advancement - it was only a matter of time. He is the first - it isn't the lowest cost but you will save alot of $ and be able to keep your motor more reliable by running this clutch instead of building a huge stroker and then making up for the slipping clutch...

Seriously; this will make your 686s competitive with the big boys. Just watch how well WOTM will do now. He did well before - now watch what this rhino will do.

I will probably run one of Kellys clutches before I even go big bore - I know we will be over 40hp once we do our motor work - it will be slip city after that...

How about a hole shot and main event win in a 20min main:) Just cruisin too! Clutch worked great Kelly!!!

Congrats Ryan on the holeshot and win tonight. Holeshot was impressive. I didnt expect to see that much of a gap. When you build my Rhino I want one of these clutches.

My 5 year old, Micah, wanted to know why the other guys were so far behind you

Looks like it works well!





Does this clutch have the "high stall" characteristics like others? Rock crawling friendly? Noisy?

Greg told me this clutch was tested in a bone stock rhino against a 686 and they were neck and neck! I'd like to see this in person!

Stall is 100% adjustable, it will work in any situation if tuned, noisy for sure BUT that will get worked out shortly.

This clutch is the shiznit. Bob's red car would pull me by a few cars at the sand fest out of the hole. Now I walk him out of the hole. All because of the clutch. By far the best mod I've done in a long time.

Once I do the 760 and this clutch it's going to be really interesting:)

For those wondering what happened Sunday I broke a shock in the main....

Hey ryan good job this weekend I saw the sunday morning race,you were killing them plus you had a passenger that was cool.what happened to the weller car did he blow a belt again.I didnt stay for the main what happened.

Thanks:) Gina had a blast riding with me on the track! She was scared at first but loved it while we were racing.

Bob had his diff/drivehshaft come off in the Heat on Sunday. He put the stock clutch back on his after the other one failed.

I broke a shock in the main on Sunday and had to pull off. The shaft right at the bottom broke right off.

your not running the elkas anymore are you? Who's shocks where you running when it broke?

Bilsteins....

Hey ryan, the weller car stopped running the bronco clutch kit huh ,was the clutch having to many failures and causing belt problems.. or what, isnt the bronco clutch kit a knock of of the pdm kit. I know that the pdm kit has been refined and tested and they want it right before selling it. The knock offs are never quite as good especially when they just stole someone elses idea,the knowledge of building the clutch kit can't be exceeded by some cheaper knock off.. this will be where the pdm kit shows value for the money invested in a quality product. you get what you pay for....

Ya Bob isn't too happy with it. You are right about getting what you pay for (although the Bronco is only $100 cheaper than the PDM)! Kelly's PDM clutch has gone through many revisions and isn't ready for sale yet to the public. I was the most recent test mule and so far it's been GREAT. I am sure people will be 110% satisfied with the PDM clutch when it's available to the public. It will only be $100 more than the Bronco and it works ten times better. I'm not positive but I'm pretty sure one of the SDHQ Rhinos had issues witih that same Bronco clutch. They can chime in on that if they wish to do so

Oh by the way what happened to your bilsteins they broke where they mount to the arm. Thats weird because a friend of mine had bilstein shocks on his street truck and they would break off at the mounts all the time just hitting the speed bumps on our street. He changed to fox and never had problems. I dont know if it makes any diff just thought that was interesting how they broke like that.How much time did you have on them. thats definately not good to lose because of that. well what can ya dooooooooo..

Mine actually broke at the bottom of the shaft and not where it mounts to the arm. It was odd for sure!

what shocks are you going to run now ,it looks like the bilsteins are good for playriders but for racing you cant have those break.

I've always had a set of Elka Elites. They will be going on the Rhino now:) If you are going to short course having adjustability in the suspension will be huge, just like a tunable clutch. The Elites I have are high/low speed compression and rebound adjustable. They should enable me to get around the track much better and not lawn dart nearly as much.

ryan,
do they have an Idea of when they'll release the clutch to the public?

Kelly is still trying to work out the noise issue before he releases the set up will be a great unit
We have one going on our next race rhino should be fun

All of the bugs have been worked out with the parts and clutch itself. The noise issue is now being addressed. Some people won't mind it, some will.

I'll let everyone know when they are available. I should have the first ones!

Hey Ryan, Nice job on the rhino . I guess I won't be racing you any more with all that bada$$ stuff on your rhino. Too hot for the dunes so it's time for the lake. Take care. Oh and by the way, I have been running the hell out of my rhino with Kelly's clutch and even at that price it's the best money spent. Anyone who drives a rhino with one will never go back. The noise will be much less with a side cover, but my exhaust is noisier and for the racers who cares, they have helmets.
Take care

What Dry Clutch Kit is DFR selling?
I know they dont make their own stuff normally.
Is it a PDM ?

It is not the PDM for sure.