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mongoose969
someone might have a better idea on how to trailer my sons yfz450 under the buggy
I don't have much room in my toyhouse for the rail and quad, and the only way I use to carry them both is the quad in front of the buggy. I weighed my toyhouse with the truck, 22,100 lbs without passengers, and the truck rear axle weighs over 6,300 lbs. trailer axle only has 11,500, I'm afraid that the rear axle is over loaded since it's only 2500 d max. so I need to shift more weight to the rear of the toybox. I was thinking of buying 2 atv jacks to lift each rear tire, but it will only lifts up to 17". I need at least 24" lift, installed a 3k winch by the ramp door to lift the rear end, but looks scary when lifting the rear tubing on the buggy, just might crack.
there's got to be a better way, any suggestions would be appreciated.
socalnaughtyboy
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Terry Allen
QUOTE(mongoose969 @ Apr 25 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]2254583[/snapback]

someone might have a better idea on how to trailer my sons yfz450 under the buggy
I don't have much room in my toyhouse for the rail and quad, and the only way I use to carry them both is the quad in front of the buggy. I weighed my toyhouse with the truck, 22,100 lbs without passengers, and the truck rear axle weighs over 6,300 lbs. trailer axle only has 11,500, I'm afraid that the rear axle is over loaded since it's only 2500 d max. so I need to shift more weight to the rear of the toybox. I was thinking of buying 2 atv jacks to lift each rear tire, but it will only lifts up to 17". I need at least 24" lift, installed a 3k winch by the ramp door to lift the rear end, but looks scary when lifting the rear tubing on the buggy, just might crack.
there's got to be a better way, any suggestions would be appreciated.



Look in the ad section of Dirt wheels. they advertise a rack system for driving a quad up and over a buggy for a toy hauler. I tried to find the site but didn't have any luck.
Kbach
QUOTE(Terry Allen @ Apr 25 2007, 09:21 PM) [snapback]2254936[/snapback]

QUOTE(mongoose969 @ Apr 25 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]2254583[/snapback]

someone might have a better idea on how to trailer my sons yfz450 under the buggy
I don't have much room in my toyhouse for the rail and quad, and the only way I use to carry them both is the quad in front of the buggy. I weighed my toyhouse with the truck, 22,100 lbs without passengers, and the truck rear axle weighs over 6,300 lbs. trailer axle only has 11,500, I'm afraid that the rear axle is over loaded since it's only 2500 d max. so I need to shift more weight to the rear of the toybox. I was thinking of buying 2 atv jacks to lift each rear tire, but it will only lifts up to 17". I need at least 24" lift, installed a 3k winch by the ramp door to lift the rear end, but looks scary when lifting the rear tubing on the buggy, just might crack.
there's got to be a better way, any suggestions would be appreciated.



Look in the ad section of Dirt wheels. they advertise a rack system for driving a quad up and over a buggy for a toy hauler. I tried to find the site but didn't have any luck.



What about one of these?!?!?!

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socaldmax
At 6300lbs,I think you're just over the rating of the tires, mine are something like 3,080 lbs ea, so 6160 lbs total. Don't you have a loft bed in the rear? Wouldn't that interfere with lifting the rail up?

How about shifting some of the heavier items from the front storage area to somewhere in the rear? If you shift about 100 lbs, the net drop on the front should be close to 200 lbs.

Another option is to put a hitch on the back and put the quad on a small trailer and tow doubles, after you get a doubles endorsement on your license.
azsandrider
Just put a removable rack on the rear of the trailer to haul the quad and then remove the rack to let down your toy hauler door....
snowdemon
This might help if you could get it to work under the bed and back in the rail. Toy Rack
Also here is someone selling one on this site.
Rack for sale
If that does not work what about putting skinny tires on the rear of the rail back it in. Then make a rack that will clamp to the tubing on the front of the rail..... Then put the quad on it.
So the quad will fit in front of the A pillar on the cage.
Might be more work but I bet it would be the cheapest.
Kind of out there but it you asked....... corona.gif
mongoose969
thanks for the input folks
can I pull another trailer behind the toyhouse(39')
what's the max length on class C license?







scarabb
QUOTE(mongoose969 @ Apr 26 2007, 06:55 AM) [snapback]2255241[/snapback]

thanks for the input folks
can I pull another trailer behind the toyhouse(39')
what's the max length on class C license?

That pulling another trailer behind is a whole other topic full of what if's. I have the same problem with a rage' 36', I need more room for a quad. I'm installing (2) receiver type hitches in the back bumper of the trailer, tied into the frame, of course. The fabricating a plug in cantilevered higher then the back of the trailer for the quad. I think (2) quads would fit but you definetly have to drill and bolt in eyelets for rachet straps on the corner of the trailer and on the outside of the new rack, this will stop the bouncing of the rack and stop any coat hanger effect that happens when the quads bounce. My only fear if to much weight will be in the back of the trailer. Thoughts?
CHIZZLE
QUOTE(mongoose969 @ Apr 26 2007, 06:55 AM) [snapback]2255241[/snapback]

thanks for the input folks
can I pull another trailer behind the toyhouse(39')
what's the max length on class C license?

Legaly, your not supposed to be over 65'.
robseg
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QUOTE(mongoose969 @ Apr 26 2007, 06:55 AM) [snapback]2255241[/snapback]

thanks for the input folks
can I pull another trailer behind the toyhouse(39')
what's the max length on class C license?

Legaly, your not supposed to be over 65'.

Also I think the first trailer has to be a fifth wheel and you need a special lic.
mongoose969
just checked on the tire rating, my 265"s rated at 3415lbs. I dont have the bed in the back of the trailer, I have the older alfa toyhouse('95), I think pulling a small trailer is the safest. measured 2 trailers with truck attached is 65ft. hopefully don't have to back up, just got to find out if it's legal to do it.
putting a rack behind a trailer might be unsafe, to much weight and lots of bouncing. I bought one of those
$99 rack that slide into a receiver for service truck at work and after a year it broke just carrying 2 8d batteries. be careful on the rack just make sure its secured and strong.
CHIZZLE
QUOTE(mongoose969 @ Apr 26 2007, 05:43 PM) [snapback]2256489[/snapback]

just checked on the tire rating, my 265"s rated at 3415lbs. I dont have the bed in the back of the trailer, I have the older alfa toyhouse('95), I think pulling a small trailer is the safest. measured 2 trailers with truck attached is 65ft. hopefully don't have to back up, just got to find out if it's legal to do it.
putting a rack behind a trailer might be unsafe, to much weight and lots of bouncing. I bought one of those
$99 rack that slide into a receiver for service truck at work and after a year it broke just carrying 2 8d batteries. be careful on the rack just make sure its secured and strong.

If your tires are rated at 3415bls, and the axle weight is 6300lbs, you're good to go. If you're concerned about the sag just get some air bags. The "safest" way would be to pull one trailer, not two. Besides, it's better to have too much tongue weight than not enough. JMO.
mongoose969
The "safest" way would be to pull one trailer, not two. Besides, it's better to have too much tongue weight than not enough. JMO.
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your right about pulling only one trailer, less things to go wrong, no problem on sagging the air lift levels the truck pretty good, just worried about too much pressure on wheel bearings. went on DOT web site and found out that over 10,000 lbs gvwr the driver need some kind of endoresement, I got a tanker and hazmat, would that be enough? guys at work saying chp been ticketing drivers pulling over 15k lbs. dont want that
DuneTrack-N
CA DMV has a $12 RV endorsement for a standard class c lic.

the 10k weight issue is hard to clarify, mostly depends on how much a chp does or usually does not know

I think we can actually tow up to 24999lbs with out a class a
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