I know the sand rail market is somwhat in the tolet right now, but if I was to sell my car what would you guys be willing to pay for it if you were in the market for a car like this ...? and let's be real ... ok you can poke some fun but try to keep the abuse to a minimum .

2000 Extreme Performance Superfly w/eco top, ground up rebuild last season, fresh rebuild on engine 2.3 Ford and turbo w/ Esslinger aluminum head and pullys, last season on the trans 091 by Right gear box all weddel gears, power steering charlyn type. just dynoed 250Hp 260Tq 15Lbs boost. I'm not a hard driver so the car has not been abused.

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28-32k maybe

Hey buddy,
You've a lot more in that engine. I'm running my 2.3 at 22 psi and it flat hauls. Did you notice a difference with the new head ???? What size injectors are you running ???? That's one tough little engine, I love mine. With your new Esslinger aluminum head and all the other stuff.....I would say nothing less than 28K. I wouldn't take anything less for mine and its a 2 seater. Look luck on your sale.....? Someone's going to get a great deal....

I know I could have tuned in a lot more but the bus box limmits the HP. The Tec ll computer I here is not the gratest eather. I steped to 95Lb injectors from 55Lb we were running into fule problems on the top end - to lean. The head and cam combo made as much HP with 5 Lbs less boost. Joe Morgon and Rob Hornsby did the tune.

I say it is worth what you'll take, but I would think more like 34-35k

The motor is great and all, but considering there is a guy selling a 06' (I think) buggy works car with a injected turbo 2332 and a bus for 22.5k. You are talking about 10 grand more for a 7 year old car...

Just sold my 99 SCU 5 seater 4cyl chevy, 091, chromo frame, 930's low low hours $23,500 ( non turbo )

Like a lot of cars that have been on here for a long time that price is 7-10K too high.
There are a bunch of cars that can be had for about 30k that have a lot of nice parts on them and are a lot newer. The market just isn't there anymore and it is flooded with people that "must sell" their car.

So even if you go through your car and replace or rebuilb pritty much everything you would still look at the over all age of the car ...? or is it the drive line ...?

What a shame if this thing sold for less than a rhino

Thats exactly what I was thinking.

that console is very nice

PM sent....

Yep
High 20's low 30's

I'm thinking 20-21K.

If thats all the market will bear, I say keep it and enjoy it.

current market.. 23-25K, if you really want to sell it. More if you want to see it online and in the paper week after week.

my .02

That doesn't leave me a whole lot left to pay that ticket my wife got last month.

Sell her car and let her ride a bike to work. that will cover the ticket, and eliminate future tickets.

maybe about 23k

I think that you guys are crazy with these numbers. I agree that in the off season things are definately de-valued. But to say that this car is only worth 20-25k I think is too low. The DD/BW car on here for 22.5k doesn't have the paint, water pumper, or charlynn that this car has. I think that car is very fairly priced in fact it may be 1-2K low, knowing that we will talk him down. If I had to add all of the extras back into this car, it is definately 5-7K more than that one in the off season, and I would think it could easily get 32K-35K in October.

Just my .02

I think its only worth what someone would pay for it, He asked what people would pay and everyone gave their "opinion" It is definitly a very nice looking car. I have my own reasons why I think its worth about 23k, but I'm not going into details.............I dont think its appropriate

good luck on the sale!

I'll give you the paint (personal preference), but the power steering isn't that much. As for the water pumper I would call it a wash with the injected, turbo 2332 vw. Maybe a little more for the ford motor... but not much. The DD/BW car is also a 2006 not a 2000 and I think it has front brakes.

I started at 30K had the car for sale 3 months, the car only had 15 trips to Glamis since new only got 3 phone calls once it was down to 25K, just giving honest feedback I have no interest in the car, SCU should be a camparable car

Those are the key words right there. Its not that the car isnt worth it. it's finding a buyer.

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I'll give you the paint (personal preference), but the power steering isn't that much. As for the water pumper I would call it a wash with the injected, turbo 2332 vw. Maybe a little more for the ford motor... but not much. The DD/BW car is also a 2006 not a 2000 and I think it has front brakes.
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You are probably right. That stuff is comparable, or inexpensive, at the time of build. VW vs Watercooled in my opinion is no contest when it comes to marketability. No matter how nice your VW is, alot of people hear "leaky VW" and "reliable" waterpumper. So for maketing to a majority, the waterpumper has more value. The paint, again you are right, personal preference. I personally don't like the scheme, but it just looks like a more finished car to me, therefore more value. And the charlynn, well it has its cost, then the pump for it has its cost, then you would have to retrofit hoses, rack for the charlynn, steering shaft, and lots of other misc goodies that cost money. Then you have to pay someone to do the labor, if you can't / don't want to do it yourself. It can get a little pricey. So, for a buyer of a used car looking at 2 comparable models, this would have more value. The SCU quoted in this thread is probably a good off season guide, however. I probably want these values to be up higher than they are because I have a car for sale too. So good luck with the sale, I hope you get a good number.

Well it looks to be that their is a pretty wide range of what you guys think this car is worth, from 20k all the way up to 34K. As fellow duners I appreciate your input. Their is one question that was not answered as to the rebuild ... If one puts money back into a car reguardless of it's make to bring it back to an almost new condition would it not be closer to the top end of the market value ...? I realize I won't get all the money out of it but for sure it would be much more attractive than a car that is newer that has had the snott driven out of it (and I'm not referencing the 06 that it was compaired to eather) but rather basing an example. I was thinking of advertising it for 34K so I have some wiggle room. I know I won't get it unless somone has money to burn and just has to have this car. Everone has their front and back yard and somone looking for a deal but wants a V8 car, 25K would be pritty good and would tend to forget about the other 4 cyls. and personaly I would buy this befor I would buy a Rhino, but then again it's all up to the individual. I also have a new trunk wing that has no art work that would go with it.

One more thing I own the car so I don't have to sell it. I've been thinking Busa rail for a wile and thought this would be a good way to gauge where to start should I want to sell it.

I'd agree with the high 20's....27ish would be my guess.


But my question is, what does the titty switch do???

The overall condition of the car will definately have an influence on the buyer ONCE THEY SEE IT, which will never happen if the car is priced too high. The car has it's upsides, but no matter what you do, it is still a 2000 4cyl with a bus trans and no front brakes. I think you would be doing good if you got 28-30k but it will take you a while at that price.

I sold my Sand Cars Unlimited 2002 with a Supercharged Honda 3.5 and a Mendeola 2D for $35,000. I was in pristine condition and had HID's and 4 wheels brakes. It took about 4 months to sell and that was still in the season.

Mine was close to same set up as joeduner 3.5 honda n/a, p.s. sold prime season (november) same price range. A good quality built car with a rep. like s.c.u. you can drive for many seasons and still get alot of your $ back out.
Big ? what was the value of the car new? High 20's? I would say its still worth that range now. not a bad deal.

I agree with most it's only worth what people want to pay. It is a nice looking car though.
Rob

Headlights .....

I would have to agree especially when you consider how much $$$ has been put back in to the car and it looks nothing like it did when it was new. Personally I think it looks much better and I'm one of those that goes out of my way to make sure it was done right.

No doubt your car is a nice ride, if it was me I'd keep it. I'll burn my car in the driveway before I give it away for less than I think it's worth.

Amen to that!!!

Don't say that on the board! If it catches on fire, the insurance co. will claim it was intentional!

First of all it is a beautiful car. With that being said...

I think a lot of sandcar shoppers have a specific drivetrain in mind when looking for a car. Motor and tranny are very important along with recognized brand and price. Then there are those that want to get into a long travel for as cheap as they can regardless. The problem is you are stuck in the middle, it is not a "desirable" drivetrain for most people (not that it's not a great setup, just not what is popular). Then there are those that want cheap, well your car is way too nice with the paint, rebuilding, etc. to appeal to those people. You just need to find the right buyer and that is the hard part, but I would say the car is worth somewhere between $25-$30K. I would definitely keep the car unless the market get's crazy again. Good luck either way.

BTW-Love the console

1 dollar Bob.

JK, looks nice. paint is bitchen. Hang on to it, no point in taking a bath on it unless u need the $$$ bad.

At this point I am not activly selling the car but if the right offer comes along ... hey everything is for sale. This was just a way for me to get an idea as to what it's worth to you the GD members as you guys are probably the best way to gauge somthing like this. I'm on the fence with the busa rail idea and seeing how I haven't riden in one yet I'm not hot to dump the car. I don't need the money right now but you never know. And too all thanks for the kind words on the car

Chris

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First of all it is a beautiful car. With that being said...

I think a lot of sandcar shoppers have a specific drivetrain in mind when looking for a car. Motor and tranny are very important along with recognized brand and price. Then there are those that want to get into a long travel for as cheap as they can regardless. The problem is you are stuck in the middle, it is not a "desirable" drivetrain for most people (not that it's not a great setup, just not what is popular). Then there are those that want cheap, well your car is way too nice with the paint, rebuilding, etc. to appeal to those people. You just need to find the right buyer and that is the hard part, but I would say the car is worth somewhere between $25-$30K. I would definitely keep the car unless the market get's crazy again. Good luck either way.




This is exactly true. When I sold my car last I had the same problem. It was a wuerth with a 2.0 turbo subi (around 300 crank hp) and a 091, the setup was completely trouble free 3 seasons on trans had it gone thru before I sold it it looked great inside new owner has another season trouble free. But most all buyers were very leary about the 091. And basically everybody wants a V8 they would say i looked at x car with a v8 and a mendi for the same price, but the other car was older and stripped (no front brakes, no beadlocks, side panels only no roof or hood, etc.) Alot of people dont want to run race fuel either which I assume you do, even though you will spend about the same $ for a turbo 4cyl. on race fuel to a v8 on pump gas. I finally found someone who really appreciated everything on the car and how clean it was and wasnt stuck on v8 and mendi but wanted a reliable car with quality parts on it. So their is a buyer for everycar just be prepared to wait for him.

It's funny that you posted this because I am talking to a guy who wants to trade me a car one year newer than yours (same model) and we are starting to talk about price. I like how different the price range is on this post from 20k - 35k.....I guess some people have gotten better deals in the past than others.

The people saying it is worth more than 30k have a similar car and would love to believe that it is worth that much. Ask them to nut up with that kind of cash for the car and I doubt they would have any interest. Especially when the market allows you to buy a car like joeduners with a supercharged honda v6 and Mendi 2D for 35k. The market has just gone south and it isn't just because it is off season. You can call these examples good deals if you want but there are an endless amount of them.

This is true but this was a thread to gauge how much people on this forum thought my car was worth to them. It does give you an idea of what some might pay for it. I'm sure some people have got smoken deals on cars like mine and the one your looking at. But what you don't here to much about is what kind of condition those cars were are in or what they found after they bought it ... how far gone was the driveline did the shocks need to be rebuilt what condition are the paddles in, powdercoat, wiring etc... What I'm saying is a car that is in need of a lot of repairs should sell in the low 20's because your going to have to put $$$ back into it to bring it back to snuff. If I had to add up all the money that was put back in to this car I could go buy another one that needs all the work that I just mentioned. So in my case it's almost like a new car but it's not if that makes any sence. In the end it does boil down to what somone is willing pay for it.

need to remember it is still a toy.Price it for what you think its worth and see what the response is.No interest in it then it is too high IMO.

Things are only worth what a buyer is willing to pay(although many might disagree) esp if it is not an everyday neccesity vs a car,home,clothes,food,etc.

I'd say no less than 25k. Any lower than that you should just keep it and enjoy it. The paint or powdercoat on your car is highly personalized. That could also make it tougher to find that one buyer that has the cash to buy your car.

I thought about that and was thinking about having some pannels made up and powdered the same color. I have a trunk wing the same color and It's only money but i agree with you it might make it easer to sell.