Theres a few thing i need some help with and im hoping you guys (& gals) can help me out. lol

so basically i am planning to get a yfz soon, and i want to do a few upgrades to it. im just a little stuck on what brands and whatnot to go with.


for the exhaust, a while back i read an article in Dirt Wheels mag where they did a shootout about all the different exhaust brands and DRD came out the winner in just about all categories. is this info still good? what other brands do you know of that give good performance and is still within budget?

is there a certain specification in which i should jet it at? certain brands?

engine mods is a tough one to decide. ive heard about people having to work on their motor just about every other ride or so to fix things. but then again ive heard about them running great and having a ton of power. should i or no?

what about suspension? i really like Elka and Fox. but i know that they are a bit pricy. any other brands that will work just as good? i plan to start riding at this track that was just recently built by my house, and still enjoy the dunes on the weekends. so that might be tough switching from a track to dunes every other ride or so.

i want some bright headlights. would it be better to buy a brighter bulb? or get a completely new headlight set? again brands and prices please..

and what about an axel? i want to eventually get a +2 kit on it (a-arms and axel). what brand is strongest but still easy on the wallet?


hmm i cant think of anything else right now.. any help would be greatly appreciated!

first get the YFZ.
is you want to do some mods, a good exhaust, there are a few you can go with. PDR on the board can help you out with any questions you may want to buy. I bought an Nmotion which is very good w/ power but at a cost of too much noise, Id look into a LRD or Pro Circuit. All very good pipes but the LRD and PC you can get to pass quieter requirements while the Nmotion you cant. I bought an LRD for quiet area racing (98DB) they made a quiet designed pipe but have heard bad reviews. Dr. D is also a very loud pipe Like Nmotion. a good jet kit that uses stock jets is the way to go. So If I were to do it all again, ID go with a Pro Circuit. great quality, if it ever have problems, its local to repair and makes plenty of power. depending on what yr you buy you will want to change the needle to a factory NCQV needle (might be spelled wrong) you can hold off on an intake, just run with the airbox lid off. the cam mod you can do which in most cases is free, with the right tools and instructions, it will change your timing to the YZF450, power is snappier, doesnt increase or decrease power, just better responce. I recommend you replace the stock nobbies if your going to hit up milestone Mx or any other track or desert. they arent very good. If you cant afford suspenison, recommend leaving it alone till you can. invest in a steering stabilizer, does wonders. a cheap rod style will work fine. as far as lighting, depending on what yr you buy, recommend at least 06 and up. Wheelie bar sells HID kits for these and i posted how to install them. BTW they work fantastic! good luck with selling the blaster.

2007 SE yfz Went with DrD slip on, and jetted carb, cant go wrong. You can also adjust the timing back to run 100%, as i understand it, the timing is adjust to run 80% of full power to pass emission tests. These mods were good enough for me, plenty of power and fun when riding on the quad...

fuel customs intake= $205.00
nmotion full system exahust = $500.00
6 paddle extremes = $220.00
sand tires unlimited Razor backs = $160.00

Sweet little set-up right there..... but then your looking at $1085.00 right there and that is just the beginning my friend

On my personal YFZ we saw a 12HP gain with the Fuel Customs Intake and the NMotion exhaust. Hands down one of the better set-ups available. The other option IMO is the ESR exhaust and FCI.

Fox is the way to go in the suspension department if you want to spend the $$$. RPM makes the best axle, but its hard to beat the cost ration of the G-force from Rocky Mountain.......

Give us a call or email and we can point you inthe right direction on all your YFZ needs.

Guy With The Truck:

awsome thanks. yeah ive heard alot of good stuff about Pro Circuit.

and what is the reason for a quieter pipe? isnt that what some people want when they get a pipe is to hear their motor? im just curious.

i had already planned on getting some ITP tires.

and Milestone MX is only like 10 mins away from me too. lol thats where i wanted to go.


PDR:

yeah ill deffinitely give you a call when i get the yfz. we've talked before. i was supposed to come by but i never got the chance.

Depending where you want to ride, noise regulations may require you to be at 98Db or even lower if you ever go to Oregon dunes. Certain race events wont let you ride if your too loud. PC makes a pretty darn good pipe that isnt too loud. but if you dont care about noise, Nmotion all the way!
But like rice burner's the loudest one isnt the fastest nor does it help any, except piss people off.

For the track holeshots work great, but for the sand, sandstars are a bit heavy. there are much better paddles out there.

I went to milestone tuesday for the first time. had a blast. going to try and go saturday morning.

I would avoid all things ITP. ITP uses cheap rubber compounds that are heavy and just overall poor in design. This goes for all their products (wheels included) and I won't be purchasing any more of their stuff.

Kenda uses a much nice rubber compound and has had great success with their ATV and Dirt bike tires. I loved my dirt bike tires. Maxxis is a good brand as well.

Fox shocks are the only way to fly right now if you don't have the big bucks for AXIS and PEP. You can buy Elka shocks and support pros, but you're not getting what they are.
Don't bother buying a rear shock, do a rebuild. The stock shock has all the adjustments you'll need and you'll loose a negligible amount of travel VS. a new shock.

GWTT is on the money as far as noise free pipes. As for the noisy ones I'd look at ESR, Nmotion, and ALBA. Albas pipe actually provides the most bang for your buck. People will shoot you down saying "well my Nmotion has prettier welds.." well I don't really care how pretty your welds are, mine are just fine and the pipe makes GREAT power for any pipe. PDR may be able to work a deal on the Nmotion bringing it closer to the price of the ALBA ($400). I've had 2 alba pipes in a row and I tried other pipes in between and still went out and bought the 2nd Alba pipe because I like the power it made over Nmotion and ESR. peak power isn't always as important over all useable power and ALBA made my bike very easy to ride.

As for sand tires, The STU Razor Backs are the only thing you should consider. Be sure to fit them with a rim at least 7 inches wide. As for the rear you can either go with the above mentioned 6 paddle extremes or try the Sand Skate 2s. I love my SS2s and I am 100% sold on them and won't own another tire for quite some time.

I didn't know people buy pipes just to hear the motor?
I mean everyone I know buys it for power....

i think he meant why wouldd anyone want to buy a quieter pipe. the answer to that would be some motocross tracks and places like oregon dunes a certain db level you have to stay under. glamis doesn't so get anything you want

They have db level requirements for recreational places in oregon not just tracks????
That suckssss

what is the DB level you have to stay under
I mean everyone I know buys it for power....

yeah from what i heard some places test, i think you have to stay under either 98 or 100 but thats just off the top of my head i could be wrong. everyone does buy it for power and thats why they make low decibel pipes for people who want the most amount of power while staying under the limit.

Guy With The Truck:
yeah i might go with PC. and are Sand Stars really that much heavier?

norocksplease:
ill take a look at those other brands you told me about. and the stock rear shock works fine?

its really a personal preference with tires. if you plan on doing alot of drags then get a hauler style paddle and if you want all around duning the san stars work fine for me. if you want to upgrade suspension eventually then you can do a rebuild of your stock shocks or just buy new ones. if you do alot of jumping or just want some more travel then look in to long travel but it will cost you. change the front suspesion first.

Works OK from the factory. But as a rebuild it'll stand up to most aftermarket shocks. The rebuild consists of a revalve and some modifacations to increase travel. You should have all the adjustments that an aftermarket shock has on a stock shock, especially an 06+


As for the Sand Stars, they're a very poor design. They work fine for most, but a higher quality rubber, thicker bead, and lighter design will work better overall. I like the Sand Skate 2s for the 450.

maybe i am smoking crack but my sand skates weighed more than my stars :/

On or off the wheel? Did you sit them on a scale? I believe the current SS2 weighs about 7lbs and thought the sand star was closer to 12 or 13. AND the SS2 is a 4ply, stars are a 2 ply.

yea the sand stars compaired to a scat track, I want to get edges or haulers on Douglas wheels. just waiting on trying a set of haulers to see if i want that much bite for my riding style. norocks SS2's maybe a choice for me just depends when you can find a deal.

as for DB levels, Oregon is around the 92-93 DB level. glamis is actually 98 DB (Ca state law) unless on a closed race course (Adelanto Grand Prix, Glen Helen,) Pismo Beach 98, & the race you are required to pass a 99 DB limit. They test you. As far as Alba exhaust goes, Ive looked at several of their products on many quads, the quality isnt consistant, on their show quads, the welds and machining are top notch. the rest are so so. that is what turned me away from them. plus they sound like they need to be repacked after every ride. only reason I have had problems w/ my Nmotion is from heavy abuse (wrecking and wrenching)

On shocks, I do alot of jumping, I love to do it. I purchased LT front end, w/ Motowoz and they are wonderful! I would never purchase an ELka, but if it was given to me i would sport it. I still run the stock rear shock, its fine on jumps but doesnt do too good in a long ride thru whoops continously (grand prix desert) you can feel the performance go. MAN do I love my Motowoz! Rides and looks like a caddy (big heavy sandstars)

IF you get this in time, I will be at milestone from around 8:30 am till about 1 if my body can take the abuse. come by and say hello. look for my quad, and truck ( pewter silverado w/ glamisdunes.com sticker in center back window)

I'd stay away from odd brands like motowoz for a couple reasons

First, it's an unproven design.

Second with our economy the way it is, they may not be able to stand up on their own 2 feet much longer. Ask the dealers, a lot of the ATV aftermarket industry is at gridlock, most guys just want to afford a bike at all and aren't as worried about long travel kits anymore. If they flop, where does that leave you when it is time for repairs (shit happens)?

on the wheel. if i stop by my bike later i might check on a scale :/

i understand that but motowoz put out amazing shocks!!!

Check that you aren't using 2 different thickness wheels...

A: again what are you going to do when they flop? Not so amazing anymore....

B: How many tuned to you shocks have you ridden? Tuned to your weight, bike, riding style and everything else. My favorites are fox, axis, and PEP. I'd buy fox today most likely because of the value they provide plus, fox is a big company that will stand the test of time.

Well from my personal experience, The lights are pretty bright but I only use them in G not for the track..

Tires.. Maxxis or my personal fav. Kenda Klaw MXR 20x6x10(ft.) 18x10x8 ®

Shocks... I went out and WASTED some serious $$$$$ on Elka's, don't get me wrong, they work great.. But you have to ship them out of the country for Elka to work on them.. TCS in Lake Elsinore is BY FAR the best bang for the buck.. Or, the factory YFZ shocks are bad as hell, you can give them to TCS and they will re-valve, anodize, re-charge, and do a tripple rate conversion for like a few hundred bucks..

Axle... RPM, I am a FAT dude and have not been able to hurt that axle..

Arms... I went with some Herrman arms but for the money you should look at Alba in Santee Ca. they have some Killer deals on arms..

Exhaust... I run the DRD it is awesome and sounds great IT WILL pass the sound check.. You just have to stay on top of the packing..


as far as it being difficult to switch from track to dunes.. It is all in your shocks. You can easily adjust your Comp. and Rebound settings for the different terrain



If you are looking for a deal. You can go to Albaaction.com they have package deals you can put together.... Or you can Call up Anthony at Triumph Motorsports in corona He will do anything to help out a fellow rider..

If you need anything I live on the other side of the wash from Milestone and I can help you get it together or work on it if you need the help..

Also have a lot of rims and tires for the Yfz.. don't hesitate to ask you would be helping me out if I gave you some of my extras.. I run beadlocks so I don't really need non beadlock wheels.. They are yours if you need them.


Shoot me a PM if You need anything..

I have the DRD exhaust and really like it. I had a Trinity exhaust and it was just too loud. The DRD gives the same power and sounds good. You can easily slip in the quiet core to ride restricted areas.
For suspension, go wider a-arms (I used alba +2) Race shocks are going to be stiff for the dunes. Axis, elka. make the best race shocks. Don't know that much about the new fox shocks but they have good reviews.

There is no "race only" shock. You can have them setup for whatever you like from any manufacture.

Hey Glamisaddiction!

Did you sell that Blaster yet? I know you have had it on there for a while. Personally, I think you are putting the cart before the horse. Just going from a Blaster to a stock 450 is a HUGE performance upgrade in both power and handling! You are already talking about engine mods and major suspension upgrades. Get that Blaster sold and find a nice, clean 450 with a pipe (they're all pretty comperable), K&N, and some aftermarket rubber and just TRY to max that thing out. Some people may disagree with me, but a large percentage of riders in the dunes don't even ride at a level that necessitates some of the mods they do to their bikes. Don't get me wrong, upgrades are fun. Just don't lose sight of your priorities. Get that bike and then master it. Then you'll have a better understanding of where YOU want to spend your hard earned money on upgrades, not everybody else. Just my $.02, Can't wait to see you on the hill on your 4-fiddy!

knarF

With a pipe, Filter, and the proper jetting that bike will kick the CR@P out of most bikes out there.. The YFZ is a monster.. Deff. learn the bike before you go all crazy with mods

norocksplease:
who makes the Sand Skate 2's?

Guy With The Truck:
so those Motowoz shock are pretty good then? what about price? and how often do you go to milestone? i might drive down there just to check it out.

knarf:
i havnt ridden that Blaster for a while now. ive been riding my dads Raptor660 which has a Yoshimura pipe and is jetted. everything else is stock but it still hauls ass lol. so i probably wont have much of a problem switching to a 450. and yeah whenever i do get it, it will probably stay stock for a while until i can earn up the cash to upgrade it. im just getting ideas of what i want so when the time comes i know what to get. thanks for your concern though.

and what would happen if someone were to ride a quad at Glamis with some track setup shocks? just curious..

Sand Tires Unlimited makes the SS2

yes the motowoz are a fantastic shock. they really perform. but like any good performance shock they are costly. $1300 is what I paid. ive gone twice in the past week, but will have to wait a little while to ride the track again. its a great track to ride for fun or train.

Fox runs about 1500?

Sounds like a little insurance to me...

Don't be cheap and end up with regret.

not a fan of "air shock" designs.. I could have bought axis for alot more, but was to much for what they were worth to me. You can get Ferrari performance for alot cheaper (corvette) just doesnt have the same bling factor of the ferarri.

see thats what i want. something that works great but isnt too expensive.

random question, but.. what sand tire throws a good roost? lol

haulers.... they throw the most sand... i have them on my shee you saw them

and if your dad had 6 or maybe even 7 paddle haulers on his raptor that would throw a good roost
cuz ten paddle on a stock engine except piped and jetted doesnt really fit well

throwing a big roost means your digging.... a low roost means your gone..

Not necessarily.

A cup shape paddle will throw sand more upward making more roost. A taller paddle will have much the same effect.

yeah i know. lol i was just curious. thats not what im basing my decision on.

my dad has the haulers and i like them. i still dont know what sand tire i want to get though. i like the Sand Stars too.

I kind of get what your saying but.... If you had haulers and you had sandstars... the haulers throw way more of a roost and the sandstars dont throw nearly any roost but yet if you had the haulers you would smoke those sandstars