Useable reverse, built in PS and tranny pump....... sounds like you should just put the name Fortin on the side..... Sorry..... bad joke.

this is really exciting to me. I know a lot of people bag on the 2d but I and many I know have had great luck with it. Here is the real question.....Price? Will it be less than the s4 and even better yet, stay in the 7-9k price range? The fact that it bolts in that same as the 2d is KILLER! now I'm really wishing but will we be able to use the same axles too, meaning width the same as the current 2d?

Earlier, he said that this transmission was being designed on a clean sheet of paper. Then he said it would bolt into the existing 2D mounts. This means that some of the dimensions must have remained the same in order to do so. Whenever you make it backward compatible like that, my experience has been that you're constrained to the same form factor, which is what drove a lot of the design issues in the previous model. So that's not exactly a clean sheet of paper.

You've heard it before, the 2D is a beefed up version of a VW tranny, which is how they explained it's limitations. For this one to just bolt in, it can't be all that much different than the previous version. I'm thinking this one will address a few of the 2Ds shortcomings, but it will not be a replacement for the S4S in terms of strength or size.

All are units have useable reverses for the correct application,and the larger units have PS and tranny pump options. Did you know that?
"sounds like you should just put the name Fortin on the side" HA HA!
But your right. People dont realize that most gear boxes are older units just re-engineered with new names on the side. above case in-point

Congratulations!! That is the ultimate question and the first restraint on the box. To do this we will be required to go beyond our current development.
So yes 7-9k is the target.

Yeah, reverse in a VW car on the street.
Yes, I do know the larger units have PS and tranny pump options, but this thread is about the 2D. You can put a tranny pump on a 2D, but you can't run your PS off of it.
I don't think the Fortin is a re-engineered box. It has had upgrades over the years.

Ls bellhousing
And what about have the front mounts attach to the bellhousing and have the bolts be exposed, that way you cn remove the trans by pulling the rear mount bolts, CV's, and shift rod, and then just pull the trans out of the bellhousing, leaving the clutch and throwout bearing in the car...

My car is tabbed with removable tranny mounts. I can remove the tranny without touching the engine, just like you describe. The bellhousing comes out with the trans, but the clutch and pressure plate remain on the engine's flywheel.

I personally don't like the PS off of the tranny.
But for your other question, I would say a 2500lb car on average.
I think peoples cars are heavier than they realize.
450HP pretty standard.
33 or 35" paddle.
Alot of people are going to 17" wheels.
You also have to take into consideration CV size, axles and hubs.
I run 934's with outboard hubs. That adds alot of weight and alot of centrifugal force is spinning. This can be hard on a tranny as well.

Below is how we currently rate the MD4S/ so your not far off/ I agree people are unaware of cars overall weight. This and tire size is what eventually put the hurt to the MD4S.
Applications
·Sand Buggy
Max Tire Size
1300 Padla-Trak, Desert Trak / 31"or 32" BFG BAJA T.A. (shaved)
Max Vehicle Weight
2,200 lbs

Max Eng
·GM 4.3 LITRE V6
·STOCK LS1

Max hp
375

so what is up with this new tranny you were talking about?

1300 Padla-Trak? That's your recommended max tire? If that's true, everyone with a 2D is over limit.

DING , DING, DING, WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!
DICK TELL HIM WHAT HE'S WON....

All kidding aside, the MD (Medium duty) box was never designed around the use in heavy four seater cars with v8 engines that put out what they do now a days, and the size tires now being used. It was designed around the needs 15 years aggo before everybody went big, tires, cars, suspension, and motors. That is what the S4, S5, S4D and S5D are for. If your putting out more then what they can hold then you go to the Big momma, the HD4....... That just the cost of going big..... You know what they say go big or go home!!!!! This just doesn't apply to the MD

This is just our ratings, we have seen many people make the MD boxes last behind big HP for many seasons. You just need to know how to take care of your equipment, and for god sake push the clutch in when your in the air and don't let it out untill your tires are planted back on the earth......

oh snap!
i didnt see people were having problems wit hthe 2d! what am i supposed to run then? i wanted to run a turbo v6 or small v8 around 320hp. you think the 2d is not enough? im not one to abuse my stuff but if i cant pegg the throttle a bit thats gunna suck.

Rail,

I just got back from a weekend of driving one of our 2400lbs Manxters with a 2D bolted up to a 6 cylinder Subaru putting out just north of 300hp. I went all weekend at Superstition mountain on hard pack and send with out any problems. So I'm pretty sure if you take care of your stuff the 2D will do just fine.....

Coolrydes, are you the spokesperson for Mendi ? Are you the same person that used to use mendeolas name in your posts? Not bashin, just curious what your status is.

No not the official spokesman and no I did not use Mendeola's name in my post, I run Mendeola Signature Motors with Mike Mendeola and I'm on here just trying to help clean up Mendeola's name in the sand car community. Is there something I can help you with I do have some authority within the company?

No, I was just curious what your relationship was. You seem to speak for Mendi in some of your posts. Again, not being critical, just curious thats all.

So, any updates on a release date for this new unit?