The California Off Road Vehicle Association (CORVA) will be holding their second attempt at elections. The date is set for Saturday, May 31st and it should be an exciting meeting as long time president Mr. Ed Waldheim is officially retired as the president. We have 2 members currently seeking to hold the president title. Go to the CORVA web site at; http://www.corva.org to see all the nominated candidates listed to date.

I'm currently the Southern Regional Secretary and I'm seeking the office of Vice President of Administration. As I've done for the ASA over the years, I would like to better serve and help this organize of nearly 40 years for the benefit of ALL. Only CORVA members can vote in the upcoming elections so if you would like to support my efforts to take CORVA into the future please consider joining.

I'm also running with other folks too, we call ourselves "TEAM CORVA 2008" and we have a vision to take CORVA to the next level. Myself and ASA volunteer Katherine Kelsey who with husband Darren have overseen the volunteers at the past 5 years at the Sand Sports Super Show are seeking support. Katherine is running for the Secretary office and currently a CORVA Field Representative. We are both members and officers of R&R Duners Club, the club that started the Annual Glamis Poker Runs that have donated needed funds to CORVA for the past 7 years.

Not just duners, Katherine and I along with our families love to ride desert too. We each have an adopted Joshua tree at El Mirage Dry Lake bed and ride the hard pack there and other places. And Katherine can drive her rail or her motorcycle with the best of them!

Take a look here for more information on our goals and our other team members seeking office. We have extended candidate bio's with contact information on the site below.

Thanks, Jim Colln
CORVA Southern Regional Secretary
ASA Newsletter Editor

http://www.rrduners.com/index.php

In the interest of "equal space" here, may I submit the other candidate Jim left out of his post.

Erin Dyer - Currently CORVA State Secretary

Erin is an executive at an aerospace manufacturing firm in the Glendale area.

Erin has served the association as Newsletter Editor/Publisher for 15 years. She has further volunteered as the CORVA State Secretary for approximately 7 years.

Erin has attended nearly every board meeting in the past 15 years and is quite knowledgeable in the history of the association.

She believes her move from State Secretary to Vice President Administration would benefit the association by allowing her to use her experiences to guide the association. The office of V.P. Administration is the second in command in CORVA. If the president were incapacitated, the V.P. Administration would be making decisions for the association. Erin believes this important job cannot be left to a newcomer.

Hi Steve, looks like your going to endorse Erin for the VP Admin. job, good for you. I've had the pleasure of working with Erin over the past 8 years as a member and the past 2 years as a board member. But I must worn you, someone recently sent me an email complaining about the very thing you just did by listing only Erin's bio and not the others. Can you believe that, this person even threatened me with a lawsuit regarding a campaign web site that TEAM CORVA 2008 had and this person isn't even an attorney, the nerve of some people...

So as I stated above in my first paragraph,


As the CORVA web site states: "This is the ONLY web site for candidate information that is approved and affiliated with CORVA."
http://www.corva.org/nominees.html

I would really hate to see you get an email like the one I received...

Jim

Jim:

All I posted here was what was on the official web site for CORVA elections. Nothing more than a "cut and paste" from CORVA's web site. Seeing that you felt it necessary to post your bio on this site, I did nothing more than post the bio of the other candidate running for VP administration.

The campaign web site you speak of was not in accordance with CORVA by-laws.

If and when I get an email about what I posted here, I'll deal with that when it happens.

Finallly, I've not endorsed anyone in this election.

[Edited for spelling]

Steve, I don't believe I posted my "bio" here as it isn't a cut and paste as Erin's. I did offer others information about me and Katherine but not bios.


So you know about this? It is strange that nobody has told me where in the CORVA by-laws that this campaign web site was in violation.
Since you seem to know can you please point it out? http://www.corva.org/ByLaws.html

Funny you mention the CORVA by-laws, seems a motion was made at the last meeting to uphold them and 7 officers voted NO...


Yeah, that is what I did with this person's email too, just put it into the recycle bin. I will wait for a REAL attorney to send me more than an email.

Notice of CORVA Election of Officers
Election to be held May 31, 2008 in Bakersfield, CA

The CORVA Board of Directors met on May 10, 2008, and among general business, the election process was worked out and approved. We learned that due to there not being a provision in CORVA's by-laws for mail-in ballots, the mention of the election process in the June Off-Roaders In Action newsletter and on CORVA's official website (www.corva.org) is no longer valid.
Your CORVA Board of Directors has decided to host the election of officers on May 31, 2008 in Bakersfield, CA. Location to be announced in a membership mailing to each individual members last known mailing address. Registration of all delegates (CORVA members and clubs) will begin at 9 a.m. The actual election will begin at 11 a.m. for each of the seven Executive Board positions.

Enclosed are the candidates nominated previously. Nominations will also be taken from the floor for each position on the day of the election. All members that have registered at the election will be given a separate ballot for each position. Members of CORVA who are paid members as of May 15, 2008 when the election notice was mailed will be eligible to vote.

We will be mailing out the above process, via US Mail on May 15, 2008 giving you the proper notice as described by law for the date, time and place of our election of the seven officers for the CORVA Executive Board.

Please continue to monitor the Official CORVA website at (www.corva.org) and if you have not received a letter by May 24, 2008 please send an e-mail to CORVA Corporate Secretary Erin Dyer at kx500@pacbell.net .

Thank you for participating in our election.
Ed Waldheim
CORVA President


NOMINEES:
1) President
Jim Woods
Terry Work

2) Vice President, Administration
Jim Colln
Erin Dyer

3) Vice President, Land Resources and Public Policy
Bruce Whitcher

4) Vice President, Education
Dan Eger

5) Vice President, Sales & Marketing
Dan Allison
Faith Work (Incumbent)


6) Secretary
Katherine Kelsey

7) Treasurer
Roberta Woods (Incumbent)

For BIOs on the nominees go to: http://www.corva.org/nominees.html

Got mine today

Thanks for posting this CORVA Terry but this is NOT the official notice mailed to the membership, that message was only a draft. Please see the CORVA web site for the "OFFICIAL" notice.

CORVA Web Site

I ain't got one. Guess I'm left out. No love for a fellow CORVA member.

Naw, you are not left out. Just shoot me a PM with your name and email address and I'll get you what you need.

Better yet Steve (roll) CALL me TONIGHT and I'll hook you up. OR call your brother-in-law.

After attending the BoD meeting myself it was plain as day what needed to be done to get CORVA back where it needs to be. And I know Jim and Kathrine are the best people to fill the positions they are running for. I'm NOT going to get into the drama here on the bbs but I will state my side of this if anybody wants to shoot me a P.M.

All the information is also on the CORVA web site. It gives all official information and bios for ALL candidates.

Beware of delegate proxy offers and websites other than http://corva.org . Please be an informed voter and consider all available information on CORVA's site.

I hope to see you there Steve. The last board meeting you attended I believe was in January 2007. If you want to carpool to save the enviroment, let me know, send me a PM.

It does worry me some that a member in good standings didn't receive the official CORVA mailing??? I say this because I was un-invited to attend the stuffing party even though I offered to attend and help. My reply back from Erin stated:



A Fair election is what was wanted by all, we will see...

Am I reading what you provide here correctly. It reads to me that you are insinuating that those who worked for hours somehow or another chose not to send the information to certain members?

And... since when is it appropriate to post a private email on this forum? Heck, the person this email came from is not even a member of GD.com!

You have sunk to new lows.

Everyone on the ballot should have a fair chance to be elected.

I am also accepting Non club delegate vote forms for Terry and Faith Work
My address
Wayne Nosala
21411 Lutie
Mojave CA 93501

We need these snail mailed in by no later than this Friday

I don't know Steve, I wasn't there yet a member in good standings hasn't received his letter, are there others. Were you there at the stuffing party?

Private emails I don't think so, call them FACTS to the matter, something that some people don't like others to know them. I often wonder why YOU are a member of GD.com, you don't do sand, never have. Is it some people here might even believe 5% what you tell them. LOL I can't believe a thing you say anymore...

All I wanted was a fair election since the first one was stopped by the president without proof to his claims, that is all.

Saturday we will see...

I didn't get one either! Renewed at Cal City. What gives?

I'm not too happy that CORVA pulled out of EcoLogic. I joined CORVA because I ride hard packed AND they were part of EcoLogic. Am I wrong or are two of the people running for office the same marketng people that has left CORVA unable to afford Ecologic? I think it would be BAD for us Glamis goers.

This is what was sent to the membership.

Click to view attachment

I'd suggest you contact the membership folks within CORVA and find if the have your correct address.

I'm told that significant changes occured with the EcoLogic attorney's new agreement. Also, this person changed firms he reports to. There was some issue also regarding billing by the firm this attorney worked for. This issue is much deeper that you know.

There was two votes by the CORVA Board on this matter and ultimately, the Board found (with all the evidence we don't have here) it was proper at this time to disassociate CORVA from EcoLogic.

Fundraising for our cause has likely gone way down in the past year and a half in general. With the economic issues the powersport industry is facing, this does not surprise me at all. Industry financial numbers show a downturn in business at between 30 - 40 %. Its awful difficult to give big donations these OHV groups need when one is faced with layoffs and in some cases, outright closure of the business.

These are very tough economic times and I can see where it is very difficult for OHV groups to garner the funding they need.

Hope this answers your question.

[Edited to correct some inaccurate information. I've been called by a person that was much closer to what happened with EcoLogic and CORVA and provided a more accurate account of the circumstances. I sincerely apologize to all involved]

Does this ring a bell Jim?:

Section 7511. (a) Whenever members are required or permitted to take any action at a meeting, a written notice of the meeting shall be given not less than 10 nor more than 90 days before the date of the meeting to each member who, on the record date for notice of the meeting, is entitled to vote thereat; provided, however, that if notice is given by mail, and the notice is not mailed by first-class, registered, or certified mail, that notice shall be given not less than 20 days before the meeting. ...

The notice of any meeting at which directors are to be elected shall include the names of all those who are nominees at the time the notice is given to members. (b) Notice of a members' meeting or any report shall be given personally, by electronic transmission by a corporation, or by mail or other means of written communication, addressed to a member at the address of the member appearing on the books of the corporation or given by the member to the corporation for purpose of notice; or if no such address appears or is given, at the place where the principal office of the corporation is located or by publication at least once in a newspaper of general circulation in the county in which the principal office is located.

[Emphasis Added]

California Mutual Benefit Corporation Code

From what I've been told, the president of CORVA was informed of this on the Sunday morning of Family Fun Days (about a month or so ago) and made a decision that the election was not in accordance with California law. This person has a fiduciary responsibility to protect the association against any and all potential challenges to this election.

Once notified of this provision of California law, the president took appropriate steps to rectify the election process and in accordance with CORVA's by-laws (elections must be before the end of May) and pertinent law, the elections will take place this Saturday.

I hope this helps you understand what happened here Jim.

No actually it doesn't. unfortunately it is, as I see it, BS. Yes the economy is tight right now. We are all feeling the pinch. At the last BoD meeting it was asked how much CORVA can put in a month. Answer due to lack of fundraising...nothing. I'm sure you can find that in the meeting minutes along with guesses in what was made at the last event. And some people want these same people to continue on? I want my CORVA back, and N2dirt back, and I want CORVA back into Ecologic. What was the number one fundraiser last year? Who was in charge of it? How sucsessful was it? Does that person blame himself or other circumstances? Does that person deserve to be elected? One way leads to status quo, one way leads to a growing orginization. Common sense over loyalty. It's that easy.

I don't want any more BS excuses. Thats why I want Jim Collns on the board. When roumors were flying about the ASA Jim became a board member and let us know first hand the going ons in the ASA. When Jim sees there is something wrong he does what he can to fix it. I would rather it be fixed than the blame being put on somebody else, or just covering it up.

Wait a minute here. It was the will of the Board of CORVA that made the decision about EcoLogic. Not just one person.

I didn't know the "last event" was a conducted as a fundraiser. In fact, it was the corporate annual meeting and Family Fun Days. A major fund raiser for CORVA is Truckhaven. I'm not sure what that event brought in.

Some of the very same folks who are currently on CORVA's Board are now running for office. So you are saying you having issues with some of the very same folks who are now a part of the Board?

I don't quite understand about a "status quo" statement in that some are indeed leaving the Board, and others are steping up. There is a few new faces running for office. But quite a few - no matter who gets elected - are still the very same folks you complain about.

Some of the candidates have chose early on to to get into mudslinging and personal attacks. Others have chose the high road.

On this Saturday, CORVA will hold an election. The membership will decide who will serve them best.

[Edited to correct some inaccurate information. I've been called by a person that was much closer to what happened with EcoLogic and CORVA and provided a more accurate account of the circumstances. I sincerely apologize to all involved]

And am happy I have been with, and will stick by those, like Jim C and Kathrine, who have taken the high road road for the betterment of CORVA and in turn the off road community.

I don't know Kathrine and have not seen any "behind the sceens" mail from her, so I'll assume what you provide is accurate. And since she is running un-contested I'd like to welcome her to the Board of CORVA.

I'll likely enjoy meeting her some time.

You know what. We do not need this political BS in CORVA and the off-road community like we see in Washington. Grow up people.

Hi Jim,

I'd like to respond to some issues you have brought up.



"So you know about this? It is strange that nobody has told me where in the CORVA by-laws that this campaign web site was in violation.
Since you seem to know can you please point it out? http://www.corva.org/ByLaws.html"

Here you go:

ARTICLE XIII

CORVA Insignia

The California Off-Road Vehicle Association will not allow its name, initials or insignia to be used in any manner, commercial or otherwise, [b]except to indicate membership. [/b]Only members of CORVA in good standing will be permitted to display the CORVA insignia.

Your slate used the CORVA logo without board approval. It is clearly used in a commercial manner and to "advertise" your slate. It also misleads the general membership into believing that the website you mentioned is an official CORVA website when in fact it is not. It also misleads the members in to believing that those on the website are the only one's running for office.
Why don't you tell us who owns that site? Or will you jus say I don't know?


"Funny you mention the CORVA by-laws, seems a motion was made at the last meeting to uphold them and 7 officers voted NO... "

Jim, you didn't mention that the board made and passed a motion to amend the by-laws to fix any flaws, before they could be voted on. Why did you and Amy, Kyra, Roberta, and George want to vote yes to uphold a set of by-laws with flaws? The other board members did not want a set of by-laws that had had issues to be inforced. But you did!! What's you reasoning here?

Sanduners wrote:

>"It does worry me some that a member in good standings didn't receive the official CORVA mailing??? I say this because I was un-invited to attend the stuffing party even though I offered to attend and help."

It doesn't worry me since I was there stuffing envelopes. We stuffed every envelope that was printed. If there is an issue, you need to talk to the person in charge of the membership list/ post office.

Jim, you can only be un-invited if you were invited, which you were not. Saying that you were "un-invited" is clearly a fasle statement and is in violation of your terms of agreement here. Also, Terry, Faith, Amy, Kyra, George, Kevin, Geoff, Ed and others, were not "invited" either. We had enough folks to get the job done. That's all.

"You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory,inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law."


>"My reply back from Erin stated:"


"Jim, the letter has already been finalized. A line was added at bottom of nomination page to see bios on website. The stuffing is handled. Ed has this highly organized. Thanks for your offer, but it is not needed at this time. Thanks anyway."


That was a personal e-mail from Erin to you. You violated her right to privacy by posting that in a public forum. Again your in violation of the terms of service here.

"You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law"


>"A Fair election is what was wanted by all, we will see..."

That's what most folks want anyway! Some will do anything to get elected. Sad, very sad.

Sanduners wrote:

It does worry me some that a member in good standings didn't receive the official CORVA mailing??? I say this because I was un-invited to attend the stuffing party even though I offered to attend and help. My reply back from Erin stated:

Erin wrote:

"Jim, the letter has already been finalized. A line was added at bottom of nomination page to see bios on website. The stuffing is handled. Ed has this highly organized. Thanks for your offer, but it is not needed at this time. Thanks anyway."

Aphantomduck wrote:

"Am I reading what you provide here correctly. It reads to me that you are insinuating that those who worked for hours somehow or another chose not to send the information to certain members?

And... since when is it appropriate to post a private email on this forum? Heck, the person this email came from is not even a member of GD.com!

You have sunk to new lows."

Sanduners wrote:

>"I don't know Steve, I wasn't there yet a member in good standings hasn't received his letter, are there others. Were you there at the stuffing party?"

I was there. If some have not recieved their mailing you need to take that up with the membership director or the post office.

Sanduners wrote:

>"Private emails I don't think so, call them FACTS to the matter, something that some people don't like others to know them."

[b]Yes Jim, that was a private, personal e-mail to you. What "facts" to the matter are you looking for. Erin's private e-mail to you say's thank you for offering, but your help is not needed. Nor was the help of any one else needed.

Again you violated Erin's right to privacy by posting a personal, private e-mail to a public forum:

"You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law."

Sanduners wrote:

"All I wanted was a fair election since the first one was stopped by the president without proof to his claims, that is all."

What Ed did was in the best interest of CORVA. The fact that YOU didn't get to see the letter, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You want a fair election? That's pretty funny stuff coming from you since your slate will do ANYTHING to win. Including breaking CORVA by-laws.

Good luck to all and may there be a fair election.

This is fricken amazing. No wait amazingly funny.

An election was to be held this month. A group of people the current president didn't like (I'm guessing because they're not his sheep) showed up with a grip load of votes and voters. Then the president throws out some lame excuse and calls off the election 5 minutes before it was suppose to happen. Now all the past president supporters accuse Jim of running a dishonest election? WTF?

I could figure this out just by attending ONE event, and attending ONE BoD meeting. If its THAT obvious to me. How much of a disservice to the off road community would it be to keep this group of spot light hogging followers on the board of a pro access org that has done so much?

This is just plain sad.

Yes, you are wrong. There is money available but Roberta wouldn't commit when asked by Ed at the last BOD meeting if there was enough to consider funding Ecologic again. You were there. You heard what she said.

Those "marketing people" made last year's family fun day's a HUGE sucess. The amount of prizes given away was incredable. It took hours. Were you there. They gave a way trophies too. It's a shame that didn't happen this year. The give away was VERY disapointing. No trophies, trash left after the event wasn't even cleaned up by N2Dirt, who were responsable for this years event. Ed and Paul went out on monday to check the site and ended up spending quite a bit of time and energy cleaning the site to make sure the BLM wouldn't have anything to complain about.

Again your wrong. Come on man, you were there, you know what happened. Your answer "lack of fundraising...nothing" is a false and misleading statement. Ed asked Roberta at the last BOD meeting and Roberta wouldn't commit. Even though she had said earlier that there was a significant amount left after ALL bills were paid. She wanted to make it look like some on the board refused to consider refunding Ecologic again. It seems that your candidates are the ones pointing fingers at everyone but themselves. They won't take the blame for their own actions. That's a shame.

I don't know who you are Fastkx. I know what I saw, and I know what I heard. It seems your trying to get me to remember things that weren't there, or didn't happen. Typical of The blind followers of Ed (TBFOE). I'm not going to play that game.
I've seen Ed in action behind the wheel of this org. Thats all I need to see. Anybody who want to carry on that tradition, in my opinion can't be good for CORVA. Its a one man show without room for discussion, and by your above points you do the same. Saying "Thats not how it is/was" will not get me to say "hey you know what your right." An honest person will lay things out and let people judge for themselfs. A dishonest person will change reality and try to get people to believe it. I know what I, and several other saw in that room. It was sad, very sad. It needs to change....For the better.

Yes, I agree. It IS fricken amazing, as to what level some will stoop to get what they want.

Mnimud, again you are wrong. The CORVA board members YOU don't like are NOT sheep. They are a group of volunteers that have worked hard together for many, many years. They are always looking for new ideas and encourage members to step up and help out when they can. Your bashing folks for doing an incredable amount of work, when folks like your self, stand by and whine. Ed had a reason to stop the election. You don't have to like it, but it WAS in the best interest of CORVA to get the election done right. NOT some lame excuse, as you said. You said "dishonest", not me. I'm just pointing out FACTS. You don't have to agree with them. The fact's prove that some will go to any length to get what they want. By attending only one event and only one BOD meeting, you have no clue how things really are or have been untill recently. It's obvious to me that you have no clue about CORVA and are just slinging mud. Talk to some that have been involved for 10-20 years. Their experiance will be much different than your's.

The "spot light hogging followers" not the ones you call sheep. You have NO clue how much they've done for land access. But, you wouldn't know since you are so new to CORVA. Their "disservice" has done more to protect you right to access than you will ever know. What have you done to keep OUR recreation area's open? Have you spent 15-20 years doing it?. Our are you just one of those that sit by and complain?

And yes it is sad when folks run off at the mouth when they no not of what they speak!

Hey mnimud, were you not invited to the last board meeting by Mr. Colin?

Since this Board meeting was called to discuss issues that came up regarding both the election and circumstances that were of concern about the actions of certain members of the "slate", I'd think this meeting was far more contentious than normal.

I for one believe it takes more than one meeting to assess what the CORVA leadership is doing to make an informed, inpartial decision.

Hi


I'm a CORVA member and would like to know who Fastkx is.

Thanks!

You saw and heard what you wanted to see. You can read the minutes to refresh your memory. Talk about sheep. Your so closed minded about what's really going on. You don't have to agree with what I say but it is the truth. I was there also, taking notes the whole time. I didn't see you with pad and paper or a computer. I have seen ED in action for almost 20 years. He is dedicated to keeping OUR public lands open, as is the whole BOD. I'm no sheep. If I disagree with someone I'll tell them. But, I do give folks the benefit of doubt. I let them prove themselves to me, if I think their right, they get my support, if their wrong, they don't get it. It's that simple. It's never been a "one man show". It's a combined effort of the whole board and the volunteers. You admitted that you've only been to one event and one board meeting, so you couldn't possibly know what goes on behind the scenes. Talk to me when you have 10 our more years of volunteer work with CORVA behind you. You seem to be the one with reality problems.

It's very, very sad when some folks are SO blinded by anger that they only see and hear what they want to see and hear.

I'm a concerned member. When I can, I attend BOD meetings, jamborees, conventions, lobby days, cleanup days, attend land use meetings, help out how ever I can. I'm the guy in the backround. I'm someone who believes in what CORVA has done and what it has stood for. I believe that CORVA has done more good for us than most folks could possible ever imagine. I have seen first hand what CORVA has accomplished and how hard the BOD and volunteers have worked. I have been lucky enough to have had the pleasure to work with these fine dedicated folks for almost 20 years.

Ahhhhh Fast speak up. Who you be? I'm Jon Pergl Who are you? Huh? So what you guys are saying is you would put a video tape of the last BoD meeting out to the general membership and be proud of it? The reason it may have seemed so contentious to some is because the BS Ed was trying to pull off was being questioned.

Once again once the board, including the ones who are running voted not to agree to the by-laws it was pretty cut and dry who had was for a transparent orginization and who wanted to sweep things under the carpet.

So com'on Fast fess up who you be? I, and many know what I have done. Sure its not years but I haven't been offroading all my life either. I'll be at the TRT meeting in El Centro on Tuesday come up and say hi. Maybe you can share some of your thoughts in person.

I know who you are. You know who I am. You may not know my name but you saw me there. I'm not "you guys". I speak only for my self and no one else. I do agree with you that the last BOD meeting was nothing to be proud of. It was the first one in many, many years that was, as you say, contentious like that. Like I posted before, the BOD members that voted no to the by-law did so because the by-laws at that time were flawed. They wanted to be sure that mistake were corrected BEFORE they voted yes. Why would Jim, Kyra, AMY, George, Roberta, want to vote to follow flawed by-laws. It's clear that THEY want to be able to say that others on the board didn't want the by-laws followed, but that was not the case. Since that's the only BOD meeting you have ever attended you wouldn't know! That BOD meeting had to happen to make the election follow the by-laws.

What BS would you be refering too. That the election at FFD was flawed and CORVA needed to get it right in the time frame allowed by the by-laws. That's all that meeting was supposed to be about, but others had different plans.

I have been an offroader for almost 40 years. I appreciate the invite, but will have to decline. I have a regular job that needs my attention mon-fri. I will be at the election tomorrow though!

Who claimed they would sue?
Why do they call an election because the by-laws weren't followed then vote not to follow the existing by-laws?
Which is it threatened to be sued or your election was flawed? You need to stick to one story, I mean the truth would be nice, but you gotta take what you can get from some people.

Sorry I'll miss you in El Centro and Bakersfield. My non club deligate was delvered, and we'll see what the outcome is.

It really does not matter one way or another who or why something was sent to the President, all that matters is CORVA being in accordance with the law. From what I saw, CORVA inadvertently made an error and is now made the correction to properly conduct this election.

It matters to those people who showed up and turned in their votes. Taking one mans word for the reason it was called when he had enough BoD members to put a vote on calling it looks quite odd. Whats wrong with transparacy? Shut us up. Prove us wrong.

An election not conducted in accordance with law could very well drawn a successful lawsuit and/or intervention possibly the State Attorney General. Its all contained in the law.

The President is the CEO of the org. Why he didn't share the letter with the Board is a question you have to ask him.

Again, read what the law is and consider the evidence to support what was written to the President.

All the rest of this stuff is irrelevant.

He was asked. He dodged the questions, worse yet he made it seem like it was none of their bussiness. No acountability. And you support this? What a waste of time. Pull your head out.

No accountability? What would you have done? Gone a head with the election and put the organization at risk? He didn't dodge ANY questions. He just wouldn't announce to the public what had transpired. Ed, as presedent of CORVA is accountable to the members. He took the responsibility of that position very seriously. Ed told the folks at FFD that the elections were going to be postponed because an election not conducted in accordance with law could very well have drawn a successful lawsuit. He was right. It's his fiduciary duty to the organization to protect it and it's members from the possibility of a lawsuit. That's exactly what he did. He apologized at the time. With the exeption of a few vocal critics, everyone there understood.

If it's such a waste of time, why do you bother? Maybe others should pull their heads out!

Why is it that a nearly 4 deacde old org doesn't know it's by-laws well enough to conduct a smooth running election? Why on earth wouldn't a board member WANT to completely divulge a letter that threatens a lawsuit if only at least to remove all speculation that the letter didn't exist?

It was not a by-law issue regarding this election, its was an issue with California law.

And, there has been some amendments to the by-laws, voted on by the membership, that have gone through that have been found the need to be re-looked at.

It would be my guess that the president may be interested in protecting the privacy of the person(s) who took issue with how this election was conducted. If indeed the election was not in accordance with the law, then it really does not matter who did it.

The Board of CORVA was indeed informed of what the law was after this letter was received by the President. All some here are doing is attempting to "out" the member(s) who made an observation and sent through their attorney their concerns.

The bottom line is that those responsible for insuring an election to happen in accordance with our by-laws have made the necessary corrections and are holding the election tomorrow.

[Edited to include a missing word]