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Coobie
It sucks to say that I see this kind of chit everyday. Thats one of the reasons I wrote this article in the first place.

Perhaps I'm venting but I just wanted to share my thoughts....

Its been one of those days



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Stand Up


Do you? Do you stand up for yourself? Do you stand up for what you believe in? Are you willing to put your foot down and challenge those who wish to infringe upon your beliefs, your morals, or your rights?

While many will publicly answer ‘yes, of course’ when asked if they will stand up for themselves, there are many that don’t. It seems to be popular to take the path of least resistance even if it is to one’s detriment.

What I see more often than not is a bandwagon mentality. I see that people flock towards the safety of the masses and refuse to have their true inner beliefs and feelings made public. Is this refusal for fear of rejection, degradation, or is it plea for acceptance? I, to be quite honest don’t have the answer.

Take a minute to step back and view this dilemma from another angle. We agree that many dismiss the importance of standing up for one’s self and are satisfied with the opinions and beliefs of the masses. Take a minute to think about this trend at a humanistic level. Do those who cannot or will not stand up for themselves stand up for the rights, beliefs, opinions, or morals of others. If they don’t have the desire or willingness to protect their own values, will they protect yours?

We think that our friends or those close to us “have our back”. Do they? Do you?

Are you willing to stand up in defense of a friend who is being defamed, insulted, or ridiculed? Or will you take the path of least resistance and not say a word?

If you refuse to defend a friend’s honor are you still a friend? Can you be trusted? Can you be respected?

Perhaps it’s time that we as individuals think about the sometimes assertive opinions of the masses. Think about your personal values. Think about your friends, those you love, as well as those who love you. Think about standing up for what you believe in. Think about standing up for others.
sausage450r
i think this in short can be put as: "in order to have friends, you must first be a friend" -saw that on a fortune cookie once. but it is true. i've had alot of chit happen in my life and have seen alot of chit happen to others. people i considered GOOD friends, weren't there for me. I have seen it in others. but what is wierd is there are always people you would never have thought of. who are the first to drop what they are doing and help you.
Crusty
"Stand Up"

Its never easy to Stand Up. It takes effort.
Anything worth something takes effort. Takes work.
Real work is labor and labor leaves you tired.

A dirty hand makes a clean hand dirty…….never the opposite.
A weed can ruin a garden…a flower will never kill a weed.
A rotten apple will spoil a whole barrel…….never the opposite.

Integrity.

Who are you?……..the real you.
Are you somebody different at work? at home? at church? With friends?

Now, I'm not talking about putting on different hats of different roles.
There is a time to be a working professional and a time to play with your kids.
I'm talking about your core values.
What you feel is right or wrong.
Do you allow certain behaviors to exist in your presence dependant on who's around?

A person with Integrity does not always do everything perfect. They make mistakes.
Difference is the continuous pursuit of trying to do the right thing no matter the circumstance or outcome.

Sometimes you'll fall - but get up, dust yourself off and continue.


I Stand up for my family, friends and my beliefs.

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Coobie
QUOTE (Crusty @ Jul 29 2008, 08:45 AM) *
"Stand Up"

Its never easy to Stand Up. It takes effort.
Anything worth something takes effort. Takes work.
Real work is labor and labor leaves you tired.

A dirty hand makes a clean hand dirty…….never the opposite.
A weed can ruin a garden…a flower will never kill a weed.
A rotten apple will spoil a whole barrel…….never the opposite.

Integrity.

Who are you?……..the real you.
Are you somebody different at work? at home? at church? With friends?

Now, I'm not talking about putting on different hats of different roles.
There is a time to be a working professional and a time to play with your kids.
I'm talking about your core values.
What you feel is right or wrong.
Do you allow certain behaviors to exist in your presence dependant on who's around?

A person with Integrity does not always do everything perfect. They make mistakes.
Difference is the continuous pursuit of trying to do the right thing no matter the circumstance or outcome.

Sometimes you'll fall - but get up, dust yourself off and continue.


I Stand up for my family, friends and my beliefs.

bandit.gif



Looks like we walk on common ground Crusty
Bansh88
"STAND UP, and be counted
show the world that you're a Man.
STAND UP, and be counted
go with the Ku Klux Klan".

Title just made me think of the old Johnny Reb song.


What was the story behind this post Coob? Need some extra muskle?
Coobie
QUOTE (Bansh88 @ Jul 29 2008, 05:07 PM) *
What was the story behind this post Coob? Need some extra muskle?


Neg on the extra muscle....just had a bad day saw some things I didnt like and needed to vent a little.

But thanks for the offer!! thumb.gif
Crusty
QUOTE (Coobie @ Jul 29 2008, 04:59 PM) *
Looks like we walk on common ground Crusty


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Rusty
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If you refuse to defend a friend’s honor are you still a friend? Can you be trusted? Can you be respected?


A prime example of "Respect must be earned. It is not automatically given."
socaldmax
I think it takes greater fortitude to stand up to your "friends."


If/when they do something you don't agree with, do you say something or look the other way just to avoid the issue? Very few people would face it head on, under the guise of being "non-confrontational."

If you support someone who is morally wrong just because he or she is your friend, then your morals can be bought, just for friendship.
Coobie
QUOTE (socaldmax @ Jul 30 2008, 12:36 PM) *
I think it takes greater fortitude to stand up to your "friends."


If/when they do something you don't agree with, do you say something or look the other way just to avoid the issue? Very few people would face it head on, under the guise of being "non-confrontational."

If you support someone who is morally wrong just because he or she is your friend, then your morals can be bought, just for friendship.



That's a good point Steve and one I hadnt thought of.

Of course you're talking about an act that is in great contrast to your moral standards and not just an annoying 'tick' that a friend has, I assume.

Shelvis
I found out over the last year that someone I work with who was supposed to be a great friend wasn't anything more than a work buddy (when times are good). She flat out turned on 3 of us and refused to "get involved" because she didn't want any trouble at work. Told us right to our faces that she would not help us.

I am the last one standing of the 3 of us and the friend is really nothing more than a work buddy now who I will never trust again!

Coobie
QUOTE (dwnhmgirl @ Jul 30 2008, 05:37 PM) *
I found out over the last year that someone I work with who was supposed to be a great friend wasn't anything more than a work buddy (when times are good). She flat out turned on 3 of us and refused to "get involved" because she didn't want any trouble at work. Told us right to our faces that she would not help us.

I am the last one standing of the 3 of us and the friend is really nothing more than a work buddy now who I will never trust again!



The scary thing is sometimes we dont really KNOW who our friends are.

While I have a ton of aquaintances and buddies, my "friend" list is very small....I have to know who I can trust, who I can rely on in an emergency, who I can call upon when shiat hits the fan...My "friends" can expect the same of me.
socaldmax
QUOTE (Coobie @ Jul 30 2008, 05:30 PM) *
QUOTE (socaldmax @ Jul 30 2008, 12:36 PM) *
I think it takes greater fortitude to stand up to your "friends."


If/when they do something you don't agree with, do you say something or look the other way just to avoid the issue? Very few people would face it head on, under the guise of being "non-confrontational."

If you support someone who is morally wrong just because he or she is your friend, then your morals can be bought, just for friendship.



That's a good point Steve and one I hadnt thought of.

Of course you're talking about an act that is in great contrast to your moral standards and not just an annoying 'tick' that a friend has, I assume.



Exactly.

None of us are perfect. We all do little things from time to time that might not fit into the category of perfect manners or whatever. But when someone does something morally wrong on a pretty big scale, then it's time to re-examine the friendship. If one is willing to compromise one's moral code just because they're a "friend" then that moral code isn't really worth much.

I pay close attention to people and the "vibe" I get when I first meet them. This weeds out the really obvious riffraff. I assume everone is honest, nice and fun to be around, but I'm always aware of anything that might indicate that they aren't. After becoming friends, I'll support them (meaning help out) but I would draw the line at concealing a crime or even worse, helping to commit one.
socaldmax
QUOTE (Coobie @ Jul 30 2008, 06:57 PM) *
QUOTE (dwnhmgirl @ Jul 30 2008, 05:37 PM) *
I found out over the last year that someone I work with who was supposed to be a great friend wasn't anything more than a work buddy (when times are good). She flat out turned on 3 of us and refused to "get involved" because she didn't want any trouble at work. Told us right to our faces that she would not help us.

I am the last one standing of the 3 of us and the friend is really nothing more than a work buddy now who I will never trust again!



The scary thing is sometimes we dont really KNOW who our friends are.

While I have a ton of aquaintances and buddies, my "friend" list is very small....I have to know who I can trust, who I can rely on in an emergency, who I can call upon when shiat hits the fan...My "friends" can expect the same of me.



That's interesting co-workers got brought up. I've never gotten co-workers and friends confused. In my field, for some odd reason, there is a lot more competition than there is teamwork. I've caught many coworkers and even my boss taking credit for my accomplishments. One guy even had the nerve to ask me to proof read his resume, in it he claimed to have been the work center supervisor when we were in the Navy! I deleted it from his resume, and he questioned it! I about busted up in his face when I whipped out my Evals where it listed my job title as "LPO" (work center supervisor) and asked him to provide the same. He worked for me, and he was one of only 2 guys that I did not give awards for his 4 yrs there. laughing.gif

The vast majority of the projects we've done required the coordination of quite a few people, but each person's tasks are broken down into very specific categories. Time and again I've caught coworkers retelling stories, claiming to have been in charge of a project or to have singlehandedly designed a product when they had minimal or peripheral involvement in it!!

When I asked the guy, "Did you learn ORCAD or PCAD in the 2 yrs I was gone?" "No." "Then how could you have designed that product? You need to know how to use those programs to have laid out the circuit boards. As a matter of fact, I see down here in the bottom of the schematics that John Bolton and Dave Klein are the engineers who laid out these boards, Just like I remembered they did."

Everyone who claimed to be a graduate of ITT Tech. couldn't tell you a battery from a resistor or an FPGA from a cap. It got to the point that they no longer hired anyone from ITT Tech.

I can't stand friggin liars. angryfire.gif
rivermobster
If you don't stand for something, then you'll fall for anything...

John Cougar Mellencamp
Hero
People give me crap, but I make my own decisions about what I feel is right and stand up for those with those same views...
SwampPrincess
the last time i stood up for myself i got called a Bitch..sooo this has become a permanent fixture on my lame space profile thumb.gif

Coobie
QUOTE (SwampPrincess @ Nov 22 2008, 10:00 PM) *
the last time i stood up for myself i got called a Bitch..sooo this has become a permanent fixture on my lame space profile thumb.gif





I like that! thumb.gif


You've got to stand up for what you believe in, for who you are, for what you think is right, and in defense of those you love.
SwampPrincess
thumb.gif got that right yay.gif

hug.gif coobie
TheWrenchWench
Great posts!
Legit Duner
Very well put Coob. I imagine you're one of those friends that are one in a million with thoughts like that.
In a nutshell for me it boils down to loyalty. Loyalty means many things to me including stepping up and helping out.
I am finding it harder and harder as I age to put up with half arse friends, attitudes, drama, disrespect and lack of morals..
To be loyal to me, is to love me.
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