I was thinking about getting a 4 channel system
with DVR recording 24 hr loop
motion, internet, IR. exterior (under the eaves)
and maybe PTZ depending on price.

whats the best bang for the buck.
x-10 is not an option

hit up chumm or hozays bud jen and don here on the board

Don's board name is jenndon

Robbie,

I know a reputable contractor who does this type of work. He has handled all of my security system designs and installs for many million dollar plus homes I've built.

He's not on the board but worth talking to at the very least.

PM me if interested and I'll forward his contact info.

BWJ

Oh, I should probably add that the area
is High Desert CA

You live in the middle of the dayum desert and then bought more space in the middle of the desert???? Maybe your next real estate venture should include a little water

PM sent

I sell and install these types of security systems. I can not travel to Cali to do the work, but would be willing try and save you some dough by selling you the equipment at my cost, and believe the markup on this stuff is stupid.

Just for grins I had a vendor quote a 4 color cam system, DVR, with Internet, and monitor, the installation was about 6-7hrs of work, and the hard cost on the equipment was $1350.00, the bidded $3800.00, so they were really marking up the stuff heavily, and probably charging me me $150.00/hr for the labor.

If you want me to let you know what the equipment should cost, let me know...and I will give you some honest real numbers...

When I sell a complete system to client, I typically charge a 15-20% margin, and $75/hr labor, plus travel costs if more than 20 miles from my office.

uh, my other space is really in the mountains, kinda

Robbie, when you find something out, please let me know. I have wanted to install about the same system you are talking about for a while now.....Actually SM19 could do the install, I just need to buy the stuff ....

JD got that one right ........could and doing may be 2 different things

works good but looks harmless

and be sure to put lots of these around your property.

Look up Bob Durbin at Leading Edge Sound and Security at 714-524-9979

Bob is one of our Glamis Brothers he is not on the board much. But he was very active in the Kris “Chili Dog” Frick (KCDF) Public Benefit Corporation, a non-profit organization whose mission is aimed at increasing dune rider safety awareness and conducting fundraiser's to enhance medical service in the ISDRA.

Bob is a great guy and can hook you up. Tell him Jeff (sand Spaz) sent you.



Leading Edge Sound and Security
3920-F Prospect Avenue
Yorba Linda, CA 92886

phone: 714-577-8676
fax: 714-577-8677
customerservice@leadingedgesound.com

Jeff

Thanks for the info and PM's
I'm still looking at different options.
Keep the info coming

jUST HAD A 16 CHANNEL HI SPEED INTERNET SYSTEM INSTALLED IN MY HOUSE WITH NANNY CAMS (HIDDEN) . I ONLY USED 12 CAMERAS. I CAN NOW WATCH MY HOME FROM WORK OR STARBUCKS 24HRS A DAY. REALLY GREAT PRICE $4800.00 HE TOLD ME A 4 CAM SYSTEM IS AROUND 2000, BUT I DUNNO HOW MUCH MORE TO COVER TRAVEL.

HIS NAME JAMES
714 321-4866 IN CERRITOS SURVELLIANCE SYSTEM SPECIALIST


PS. HE ALSO DID MY SHOP

Robbie, sent you a PM. I've been doing them for 23 years and also audio/video. I OWN the company so there will be no salesmen. You always take care of me now I can return the favor. I will goto the high desert for you. I am a licensed contractor (C7-903290) with a AAA rating with the BBB. I will not charge you for my labor, all I ask is that you cover my guys labor.

To give you an idea, I'm getting Samsung 520 lines IR 0 lux color day/night cameras for $105.00 cost

Buy either the Speco ,Extreme or the sony .0003 lux cameras

The sonys are the best bang for your buck night and day without infra red

One of our dune group does this stuff for a living...not sure if he'll come out that far but may be worth calling him and mentioning that I told you about him:

http://jordanalarm.com/

He just bought a bunch of gently used DVR's from one of the local casinos, got 4 pallets of them for about what 1 unit sells for new from what I understand. He gave one to me to play with...nice high end Sanyo with IP and everything...but it's $600 for the software to connect to it Works fine stand alone but being a computer guy it's bugging the snot out of me that I can't get into the IP interface

WOW.. If I needed this stuff - Id be ringing your phone.

PM Sent.

We have been in Southern California for over 24 years. I am getting great pricing on top quality equipment and would be more than happy to share those discounts with everyone on GD.com. Just let me know what you need and I can send you pricing. We have systems all over including some areas of Arizona.

We can take over any security system. We monitor our own alarm signals and you will NEVER reach a voicemail or answering machine. We are a different kind of company and actually care about our customers.

www.allprotectionalarm.com

Thanks,

Ryan Bedoe
President, All Protection Alarm
C10-526761 and ACO-3824

Do you have a UPS? If the power spikes or goes out you lose your cameras... Make sure there is a UPS on you router too...

There is a huge difference in different equipment. For example my cost on a good LCD flat panel with BNC inputs and less than 10ms response rate is $600. A computer monitor is different than a security monitor (about 20,000 run time hours). Is the monitor quoted a CRT? Are the cameras 380 lines or 520 lines because that makes a difference too (box cameras, bullets, IR)? Is the DVR MPEG4 with DDNS or does it require a static IP? When comparing camera systems I highly recommend comparing apples to apples... I could install cheap stuff to undercut everyone else but you won't be happy.

The biggest difference is do you want a HACK install? Do you want wires hanging on the outside of your house like the phone, cable, satellite, and Hack alarm companies install?

Personally, I can't stand the sight of wire. But that may be just me. I have lost a few jobs only to see the world's worst installation. Sure I could have had my techs drape wire across the ceiling but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night...

I would be more than proud to show anyone any one of my company's 6,000 custom installations over the last 24 years... Just a thought.

Trust me - apples to apples in equipment and reputation for installation. That combination = All Protection Alarm every time.

There is a huge difference in different equipment. For example my cost on a good LCD flat panel with BNC inputs and less than 10ms response rate is $600. A computer monitor is different than a security monitor (about 20,000 run time hours). Is the monitor quoted a CRT? Are the cameras 380 lines or 520 lines because that makes a difference too (box cameras, bullets, IR)? Is the DVR MPEG4 with DDNS or does it require a static IP? When comparing camera systems I highly recommend comparing apples to apples... I could install cheap stuff to undercut everyone else but you won't be happy.

The biggest difference is do you want a HACK install? Do you want wires hanging on the outside of your house like the phone, cable, satellite, and Hack alarm companies install?

Personally, I can't stand the sight of wire. But that may be just me. ME TOO
I would be more than proud to show anyone any one of my company's 6,000 custom installations over the last 24 years... Just a thought.

Trust me - apples to apples in equipment and reputation for installation.
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I agree with the above statements. Your are going to pay more for good equiptment, but it is worth it in the long run. Sounds like desertguy and I have the same feelings about installations (don't you just love the DirecTv/ Dish monkeys work?).

"We can take over any security system. We monitor our own alarm signals and you will NEVER reach a voicemail or answering machine. We are a different kind of company and actually care about our customers."



What do you charge for the conversion??? Whats you monthly rate.

No one has beat my monthly price for monitoring and we to monitor our own accounts.

Just curious......

Glad to see there are other people in our industry that are on the board to help, not take advantage people.
My main business in Audio/Video. I do Theater rooms, whole house music, home automation.

Where are you based out of?

The conversion really depends on what we are taking over. If the panel is locked out we'll charge for a new board and keypad(s). If the panel is not locked out then we'll just reprogram the control for free. We'll explain the difference of the 4ah battery that everyone else uses and why they should change it to a 7 ah battery ($20 since we are already there). My company has never purchased a 4 ah battery. In our experience sealed lead acid batteries have a 4 to 5 year life.

Monthly monitoring is $25 or you can get one month free if you pay 1 year in advance ($275). All of our systems test on a DAILY basis and we check to make sure we received that test signal. I can't tell you how many people have FC on their keypad and don't know they are not being monitored with the National Companies (ADT, Brinks, and so on)... Once they are burglarized I guess they will figure it out.

You have your own central station? Do your systems self-test every 24 hours? That gets expensive if you are paying a monitoring company to monitor your accounts...

well there goes the neighborhood........lol j/k. shoot me a p.m. when ya come up so we can do a face to face, like to meet ya I'll bring the corona's. and in case the place is just going up i got a moho in the back yard full facilities or the couch.Just saying hey to my new neighbor cheeers!!!