I topped off the 136 gallon water tank and the 36 gallon fuel station. LP tanks are full as well. We have about half of the odds and ends in the trailer that will be loaded in so figure another 150 lbs. maybe????. I am about 55 gallons short of diesel in my truck which is a hair over 400lbs. Any idea what food for 4 days would be?
The x-factor is the wheel lift attached to my truck which adds about 2000 lbs. The truck weighs 9480 missing the 55 gallons of fuel so figure 10400 with fuel, me, Amy and 2 kids.
Total was 24180 WITHOUT quads or a buggy. Ruh Roh Raggy.

Holy Heavy Trailer Wash-man.....

I guess you have to sell all of your toys or move to Brawley !

I know my Motorhome is about 22000lbs plus 8000lbs of box trailer behind it and I have the Little Cummins 5.9 pushing it along and it is unstoppable going up the hills. All I have done is a very tame Vanaaken module for +30hp and +100lbs torque and alot of Billet transmission parts. You should have plaenty of power but the GVW police wont like you.

Power is not an issue at all, especially considering that Havasu to Glamis is completely flat, seems to stop good too but ordered an exhaust brake to help a little. I feel bloated just looking at the pic of the digital readout at the scale....

Check with Mrs Wash........see if she will let you have $129,000..........just tell her its a safety issue !

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shave some of that hair off your back and you will make weight just fine

So the trailer weighs about 15K without the buggy or quads?
Hope you have a VERY lightweight buggy, and helium in the quad tires!
Isn't the tow rating on that Dodge about 15K?

When we went to Pismo last year we stoped at a truck stop for fuel. I figured while I was there that I would weigh my truck and trailer. At the time I had a 2006 GMC dually and a 2008 Weekend Warrior CL 4005+5. The truck had full fuel with 2 people in it, the trailer was full water, gas, a Rhino and a quad, plus all the usuall stuff. It weighed truck and trailer 29850 lbs!! I would usually have my buggy and Rhino in there and the buggy would add another 2300 pounds. After that I sold it all for the set up I have now.

16350 towing capacity

That's is not a nice thing to do TNT.... You know I have very little self control when it comes to shiny things.

Same here on my way to Idaho a few years ago...........Truck and CL40 loaded up, just under 31,000 pounds.......rut roh

Just repo one of the nice Volvo HD rigs, add an air hitch and away you go...

I know people overload stuff all the time and seem to do fine but that is not really my style. My truck is rated for a gross combined 24000 which I am at now. I'll load the rest of the junk in there with food etc. but I'm dumping the fresh water which is a little over 1100 lbs. and fill up at Dunes Edge.
We always take Amy's truck and the flatbed anyway because we have too much crap to fit in any 5th wheel so for now the quads and buggy will go seperate. If it wasn't for the wheel lift and work stuff, this truck would work just fine. Looks like Wash might be shopping for a truck just for the dunes (bummer!!!!!!!!!!!).
This sucks but I'm just not willing to put my family or your families at risk nor do I want to kill a truck that I use for work which pays for all my bad habits.

just curious, what is the listed dry weight of that toy hauler?

Seriously, you can get into an HDT for less than a new p/u... I keep trying to convince She Who Must Be Obeyed thats what we need. But I made the mistake of showing her the toterhomes. Now I HAVE to win the lottery...

I second the HDT for towing a trailer that size. You can get a nice one for about $20k

Thats pretty much exactly what I had to do, ended up getting an '08 F450 from Bobby at Sunrise Ford, tow capacity is 24K, then got a GMC canyon for work...good luck.

new F450 is only in the $55K range.

How long would it take to remove the wheel lift?

Leaving that, water, and all that extra fuel at home would get you pretty far under the limit.

Those Freightshakers are nice looking and all but my F450 has a GCWR of 33,000 lbs. and a max 5th. wheel tow rating of 24,000 lbs.
Thats only 2,000 lbs. less than the Freightliner and for 1/2 the money. And it's 4X4.
I don't need a second truck for daily use. Try taking a Freightliner to the Home Idiot store and loading it with 2X4's for your home projects.
I may not run 75 up the hills, but when I get there I still have over $65K more in the bank than the Freightliner guy.

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Being at 24,180 is not that bad. Look at some of the WW weights listed here. If the new 5er weighs about 15K where its at, (half loaded) Thats about right. The 5er GVWR is 18,000. The listed UVWR on the 5er I believe is at 13,800-14,000 lbs.

I need to weigh mine I am sure I am over

Why not put some 19.5 wheels and tires and let er rip. The biggest issue I think in light duty truck trailer is the 16/17/20" rim set ups. I'd have no problem towing that set up with some nice 19.5s. I'd probably get a good trans behind if it it's not a hand shaker.

forgot to add that camper is freakin sweet dude!! the color scheme is sick.

sheesh joel, what didja expect from a 45ft 5er? actually im suprised that considering the wheel lift and size of the trailer that its not higher. i loaded my 5er down for the golf tourney which included the baja bug, predator, atc 90, full 100gal water, 20gal fuel, full LP and everything for a weekend and 2 peeps in the truck i came to 23,600lbs combined...my rated is 22,500lbs combined. trailer is 38ft alum siding and no slides so thats my advantage. i dont fill up with water until el centro, without that and full water, im legal according to the book.

thats pretty heavy but its nice having that security blanket knowing your not pushing the weight limits

The truck has a Sun Coast full billet transmission built by Mike at Inglewood Transmission- it absolutely ROCKS!

13800 is the listed dry weight but only weighed 13540 when we picked it up from Headinjury. That is with 2 six volt batteries, about 10 gallons of fuel and 10 or 15 gallons of water in it.

Wow! That's heavy!

Great to hear, Suncoast is our fav for our service trucks (and being a FL native you gotta support the locals).

That's a nice change... a listed dry weight under actual weight..

Edit to say: Maybe I missed it but how is the DRW truck only rated at 16XXX lbs... is it a 3/4 ton?

You know what that means.


Some of the optional stuff that was ordered wasn't installed. About 360 lbs of it!

That wheel lift is now a part of the truck. When installing, picture everything being removed from the frame from the cab back. The slide rail assembly now makes up all of the crossmembers that were removed. The frame is reinforced with lazer plasma cut 1/4 steel plates that also tie into the framework of the wheel lift. The whole thing is beautiful with the bed removed.

Dammit! I knew I paid for the generator!

Tow rated is different than gross combined weight rating.

I understand... I think my SRW 1 ton Dodge is rated for 17XXX hence my question if it was a 3/4 ton DRW Dodge..?

Maximum Towing Capacity: 15950 lbs. is what the 2008 SRW 3500 4x4 is rated at on Dodges site.

Maximum Towing Capacity: 16350 lbs. is what the 2008 SRW 3500 2x4 is rated at. It rates higher because it weighs less.

put a fiberglass front end on the dodge and add more beer in the trailer

you wont stop like the Freighliner though!!!

I would have thought it to be way heavier.

My GMC6500 and Gearbox is 32300 loaded.I weighed it just two weeks ago.Its still overweight.

Mine is a 2005... cant find the dang chart with the capacities.... I thought it was higher..

Regardless of the numbers you have a tough ass truck. I have seen a single wheel 3500 Dodge used as a repo truck (tow truck) go 310000 miles and this guy was not easy on it. Truck was still working everyday when he sold it.

Thanks.... How many Ferds can say that BTW...?

Seeing how I killed 3 6.0 PowerStrokes all before 100k miles- none that I know of

yeah, dont think your gonna see that many out of a 6.0 stroker, even as much of a ford guy i am. however, there are more than plenty of 7.3's out there, still in service, with way many more miles than that.
you guys dont wanna know what my f-350 and cr3905 weighs combined....

I'll guess 23,500.

ill guess 26k

My old rig was an 84 GMC crewcab dually(with a cummis ) with a 11.5 foot Lance camper on it and a 24 Haulmark loaded to the gills.
I weighed 26500 going down the road.

26004 loaded. weighed it at the cat scale presidents weekend this year at the arco on the 86s. i didnt weigh them separate. but im guessing about 18000 for trailer 8000 for the truck.