BURLY!

Does it have windows?

John, is this the one with the cantalever(sp) front end?

The "windows" are hinged, flip up frames for window nets, I think.

WOW!!! What is it to be exact? Looks like it can handle anything.

dude nice jungle gym, but where is the slide???

Is the "el gordo" series designed for the desert? Is that a rear a-arm setup?...why a-arms over trailing arms. What do you estimate the final weight of the buggy to be? What's the wheelbase? Keep us posted on this build...I'm keeping my eye on this.

4 wheel a-arm,30" wheel travel all four corners,60 gallons of fuel (or just rear tank),sway bars front and rear,4 wheel cantilever shock set up (or conventional if wanted),S4D,CBM 402 stroker,37" tires,3000 lb. weight-these cars are basically "gen 2" of my existing MB2 or 4 cars- wheelbase is the same,chassis the same (2.5" taller mid rail),front suspension is the same,only these are rear a-arm. by using rear a-arm you get better handling characteristics,using body roll to keep the outside tire vertical in a turn=better cornering ability, where trailing arms every degree of body roll translates to camber change-either positive of negative,either way you are loosing tire contact surface with the ground. by running "inboard" cantilever shocks,the suspension parts can be made lighter,saving weight.the rocker arms and shocks now are "sprung" weight-which is what you want.more sprung weight,plus less unsprung weight=more wheel control/better handling. also you can adjust the ride height of the car 4" without touching the coil overs-you use the link rod that goes from the lower a-arm to the rocker arm,kinda cool.these cars will be lighter than they look,so can go to the desert or dunes (with 60 gallons of fuel will be fun in Mexico!)

NICE that thing looks like you could drive it through a brick building. keep the pics coming

Innovation!!

Very nice keep the pictures comming!

I'm interested in the cantilever setup, have any closer pics? And 30" all the way around, wow, your not messing aorund.

Where is the shock mounted? What stroke are you anticipating?

Looks interesting, please update pics as you progress.

Will this accept a bus tranny?................... Looks beefy!, what' the guess on weight?

30" travel in rear might be a stretch!!! Sure is nice to see someone going to a-arm set up

Mosebilt
sorry , but i have to disagree on that ;
a cantilever pushrod/idler/shock setup is actually adding un-suspended mass. the pushrod and the idler arm mass moves together with your suspension
a cantilever setup is very popular in high speed motorsport applications to remove the shock/coil out of the slipstream but i dont see the benefit in offroad unless you run a reduction ratio on the idler and use somewhat lighter, shorter stroke shocks ...but then you need stiffer (heavier ) springs to compensate for the reduction ratio of the idler .....
but hey...what do i know

looks great...very beefy

as far as i know,and been told actually half of the rocker arm and control rod are sprung weight,the other half is still unsprung weight-just as if the shocks were in the normal spot (directly on the lower arm). the front and rear both cycle 30" travel-i can put a shock back on and anyone can come by and see if they wish . i still have to make the rocker arm pivots over the trans and shock mounts between the rear seats on the rear, but it all has been cycled. i was able to achieve the rear travel numbers by spreading the rear upright pivot points almost 4" wider at the wheel than at the frame-inducing several degrees of negative camber the last 5" of up and down travel. doing this keeps the outer cv more in alignment with the axle,gaining more angularity and wheel travel,but without hurting the handling since it only happens the last few inches of movement up and down. we are shooting for 3000 lbs,maybe a little more.....

bad ass man always loved cantilever shock set up

glad to see somebody who can handle a different opinion without getting his underpants in a ball lol

yes, i love A-arms too. i dont understand why so many guys run trailing arms on a longtravel buggy with something like a foot of axle plunge
i think on FlyinRyan`s truggy (the one in my avatar pic <<< ... not the old one in HIS avatar lol) he has something like +/- 1/2" plunge ... that is doing wonders for the survival of the CV`s ...

the stretch i am talking about is the fuctional aspect. cv angle. Your car is sweet and you should be very proud. i like your ideas because it is different from your typical car. so how wide is the car going to be with the wheels on!