OK, I have no idea if this is true, but I just got a call from a buddy who just talked to some guy "Jim" who said he talked to a ranger who told him that the Glamis drags area was going to be posted 25mph during the holiday weekends because of the kid that got killed at the Gordon’s Well drags last year.

Sounds stupid to me, but I thought I would post it to just confirm that it was false. Anybody have a BLM connection they can call?

They do what they want to..

try giving the blm a call? since they handle the algodones dunes, i bet they may just have your answer.

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some guy "Jim" who said he talked to a ranger who told him that the Glamis drags area was going to be posted 25mph during the holiday weekends


That means that there should be some really good ATC 70's racing action going on. Maybe even some stock Rhino races. No Sheaves allowed.

Its the law already. Its just a matter of enforcing it.

That would bite.......................... no =

Anytime someone gets hurt, or killed, a new rule or law always results.

The cars that are built nowadays are extremely fast and have alot of horsepower. A number of these cars are purchased by inexperienced drivers, driving WAY over there ability. As much as I like the drags, over the years I have seen a number of close calls. I used to watch from the front row and over the years have worked my way back. The spectators have slowly moved in closer creating less room to recover from a mistake. It's not like it was 10-15 years ago. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing on big weekends, I know I probably get heat for saying that. But it really is only a matter of time before a car goes cartwheeling into the crowd, and injuring or killing a number of people.

Everyone has seen the asshat that has to drive right along the edge of the crowd, in a car that is obviously on the border of out of control, as though no one would see him if he moved in 50'. These are the guys that insist they own the dunes and have no respect for others safety.

It was just a matter of time.....

I keep up pretty good on Glamis issues and attended the dune meeting at Extreme and there was no talk of this at all. More strict enforcement of the 15 within 50 rule near the drags maybe but that wasn't talked about either.

pretty much what i thought its comes down to the 50ft rule and no just driving down the middle will exempt you cause you probably have someone close to the people on the sidelines.

for as much that happens there i am surprised with the low number of injuries myself

Not that it makes a diffarence, but was a kid killed at the Glamis drags or the Gordons wells drags at the end of last year. I think, or what I was told they are just going to closes the drags on Glamis sand highway, closest to the rangers station, not grodons wells. They where going to make the entire area 25 mph. It's all here say!! Not really sure.. Just what I was told. Anyone know different.

Did you know that the speed limit down both sides of Gecko Rd, and Hwy 78 is 25mph when within 500'.

500' would put you into the dunes, and likely into the drags area. This is a federal regulation not to be confused with the rule about being within 50' of people or a group. So be aware, and beware

I researched this and comfirmed it with the rangers. Also, if you get a ticket you go to Federal court. Quit a bit different than the regular traffic court

I guess everything I own is for sale ......... having no drags sucks big %^&*

Every one needs to be safe first to me!. I have seen and been that guy hauling ass down the drag strip and lose control, VERY SCARY! I wish that to know one.

It happens to the best of drivers. I agree with the rules of not driving to close to the crowd, to many people do this! I hope we can still drag race with everyone's safty in mind and not so concerned with being the fastest uncontrolled guy down the strip. God knows we all want the thrill of watching everyones tricked out ride blasting across the sand. LONG LIVE THE SAND DRAGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1:tres:

Add my stuff to the list. No Drags No Fun.

Hope this is not true.

Guess we will have to find a good flat spot out in the dunes that the ass hats can't find.

Oldschoolduner's .02

In all the years I've been going to Glamis I've been to the drags twice. Both times I left within a few minutes. I'd rather play than sit in the stands.

^^^ I was thinkin the same thing...

If the only reason you other guys go to G is to run the drags, put slicks on your rides and go to a track... Better yet, sell it and make G less crowded for the rest of us. Sorry but IMO that's just the wrong attitude to have when it comes to something that could potentially save a life.

First off everyone is entitled to their opinion. Glamis offers a lot of different things to different people. Some people come down just hang out in camp or pose by their $200,000 car that they just unloaded our of their $500,000 rig and trailer. Does that make it wrong? No. If a guy wants to come down and all he does is race the hill, so what. Everyone doesn't have to do what you do. That's part of the beauty of it. Keep in mind that no one is asking or begging anyone to line up and watch the drags. There are guys and for that matter girls that are safety conscience and some that aren't but no is holding a gun to any one's head. In life there are risks. Statistically you have greater chance of dying on the way to or from the dunes. It's about choices. For every choice there is a consequence, for good or for bad. It's about freedom. Let those who want to drag do so. What's it hurting you? If you don't go to the drags, no harm to foul.

"Better yet, sell it and make G less crowded for the rest of us." If they are only at the drags they are most likely not getting in your way as it is.

"that's just the wrong attitude to have when it comes to something that could potentially save a life." There is no attitude. The people that are there want to either watch or participate. It's their choice.

If you read the other posts they were both stated with attitude... I was simply agreeing to what they said. They said they should sell and I agreed. But to get pissed about it and say no drags = no fun is just rediculous again IMO incase you missed that the first time.

Do what ever you want, I don't care. I just think the drags are boring. I go to the strip to see real competition. Especially if you're part of the pit crew.

i agree it would suck if they closed them down. i love running down the drags. yeah maybe watching is not as fun but when u run them its a different story. just like i think being apart of a pit crew would be boring. i want to be the one racing.

I find myself going less and less each season ...gotta 13 ty old kid ..gotta keep him safe ...Don't get me wrong, I love takin a run here and there ...But I too have been that guy outta contol ay 90mph +....If a heim goes there is nothing even the most experienced driver can do...Seems People are keeping their cars longer now as apposed to selling and building every year ...So alot more maint is involed in keeping a buggy safe...be safe peeps...change those heims....

Stopped going years ago-I find it as boring as sitting at the hill when there is a crowd. Dunerdude is right though-let people make their own choices (as long as it doesn't hurt anyone). For those of you like I who don't bother/don't like them, don't try and talk others into not going-it empties the dunes for the rest of us. Always thought the best time at Olds was that late Sat. afternoon ride to go hang out after all the people who had sat at Olds all day made the mass exodus over to the drags...

I am not that big fan of the drags due to the safety factor. however I am in fact in Favor of the atc 70 drags!!

OK 70 peeps....Looks like we will be at the drags first before our canal runs!!!

what sucks is all those people will be out in the dunes, instead of hang'n out at the drags!!!

o wait....

i never go holiday weekends anyway.

carry on!

during big weekends It can get pretty crazy, I would like a little organization though maybe a set of drag lights set up on a timer, red,yellow,green 60 sec pause, red, yellow, green etc..

to me the drags are just all part of the glamis experiance. heck the rides to and from the drags are the best part to me. thru the dunes to then hang out there and have a diet coke, see whats going on then headback into the dunes.

that doesnt bother me at all
since i ride a bike and im not rapped in 5 point harnesses and roll cages id be done if i got hit or something and when im riding on holiday weekends im more worried about whats happening around me than having fun
i think they should enforce speed limits in a few other places too
makes me feel more safe. not saying that everyone in a buggy cant drive and i dont feel safe around them just that im smaller and sometimes they cant see, and if there were speed limits they wouldnt be able to crank wheelies and haul azz
so they would be able able to notice what and whose around a little easier

I agree with you that the drags are all a part of the glamis experience. After a long day of riding just go and relax with friends and watch the cars go by. I realy hope they don't close them down, that would suck. Thats just my opinion.

When we use to camp at the washes that was our fast ride to the drags and back.i had 85 atc 250r til i got a 2 seater swing axle and the rest rode quads and m/cs.but in the dunes we could get some good speed and it was a fun ride.I use to tell the bike guys with us its 4.30-4:45 we have to get moving now to get back in daylight(barely make it back without light or starting to get to the point where light was needed)I always had a light but the others nothing.

those were some fun rides and dunes were always empty going back and seldom crowded going there.

I still go to see the stupidity factor still it always amazes me especially when kids have moms navigator and think they could do the whoops like the market speedbumps only to see the bumpers fly off,or the one who breaks their ride home cause they thought that lift increases performance,etc.I will probably never stop going but if it ended well thats life.Oh and i dont do the front row anymore without strategic planing.meaning i make sure there is an obstacle(trucks or anything big)that will block if the worst happened

No worries......for the record I'm the one who said: "no = . My point was simply let everyone do what they like as long as it doesn't negatively affect anyone else. You are right about the attitude. Enough said......................

I'd much rather the azzhats who wanna carry 4th-gear wheelies, do that at the drags rather than 50' from my family (and my moho) at Keyhole. If they shut the drags down, I fear the repercussions elsewhere along Gecko and Sand Highway.

If I go to the drags, I am going knowing that there's a risk. I shouldn't have to deal with that behavior next to my camp.

Whether you or I find the drags to be enjoyable or not is not an issue. The fact is that a large group of people do find them compelling and so participate or spectate.
As for the rule, I've not heard anything about any new rule, but that doesn't mean a thing.

It is already against the rules to go faster than 15mph within 50' of any group of people. The BLM have in the past decided to enforce this rule strictly at the drags. This is a good thing, IMO. It just means that vehicles must stay in the middle and the crowd has to stay back.

On the other hand there is also a rule that basically says that any "group" or "unauthorized, organized" event is not allowed. This rule is so broad that they very easily could enforce this at the Drags (like they do at Comp or Olds) and prevent crowds from gathering and vehicles from driving. If they decided to enforce this rule at the drags the result would be that the drags would move elsewhere. That is, IMO, why they have not done so to this point.
They really could not prevent the impromptu drags from occurring due to their nature.

So, I wouldn't worry about this rumor. If the BLM come by and close down your groups of duners then simply move elsewhere. Don't break the 15mph rule (stay in the middle and if the crowd gets too close then just don't haul ass!!!) This is just common sense. You can and will get a ticket. Don't say you weren't warned.

At the Gecko drags you can frequently see signs stating this rule. The ASA even put out some fliers explaining the rule.

Well said Pastor...........................

sounds like "vor" or "voice of reason" talking there















if you didnt know that used to be the pastors screennames

Called BLM and the lady I talked to on the phone knew nothing of it. I searched online and didn't find anything about it. They have been trying to close all the hot spots like Olds and drags since 2001, but notihng has ever happend. Thats what I found. Not sure if its true either way.

You read my mind...

I see a bigger problem here though

1st to close ------------> COMP HILL
2nd to close -----------> DRAGS
3rd to close -----------> OLDSMOBILE?????????????????????????

this is bull @$#* if you ask me.

you just named the 3 spots I find burned trucks, stolen crap. flatbillers, partiers, and trash.
I say let em all in, then run vins, check ID's, and cite cite cite.......
just another way of getting rid of the real problem at Glamis....
While i enjoy all aspects of G, i will be more than willing to support the BLM and local Police....because I remember when there weren't any out there....because they weren't needed.....
people are assholes, people are rude, thieves, I could go on.....
us invested off roaders know it will go away...in time..as will the people who cause the problems...
until then, i am ok with the "crackdown"...

I could not disagree more.
"Burning Trucks" "Stolen Crap" and "trash" are all illegal now.
You say you put your faith in the local law enforcement and yet they are completely incompetent and incapable of enforcing those laws.
So you seem to be suggesting that the best way to deal with the incompetent and incapable cops is to just close "those" areas down.

But what will you do when another guy like you posts...
"I support the local cops. I hope they crackdown on the "rebel" rednecks who do nothing but party and drink all night, driving in their loud trucks at all hours"... and it's YOUR weekend at glamis which gets "shut down"?

Glamis is not yours, nor is it mine. It is all of ours. It is there to be enjoyed in any legal manor by anyone and I refuse to support anyone or anything that does not accept that.

Because the moment I do is the moment it becomes illegal for me to enjoy glamis in the manor that I find enjoyable, which is my choice and has nothing to do, whatsoever in whether YOU find it "acceptable".

I agree with you on that Pastor.

But most people succumb to human nature and naturally want their way to be the only way. They don't care about other people's method of enjoyment, only theirs. It's so rampant, I call it human nature.

It is not human nature to burn cars or throw trash.

It is human nature to act within the apparent social norm.
It is our job, (and I think we've done a damn good job of it) to make it socially unacceptable to do such things and therefore remove them from the list of the "social norm".

Well said gentlemen.....

I don't mean it's human nature to burn cars etc...

well some people do when it's time to riot, but I digress.


I mean most people act in their own self interests, and aren't capable of accepting other people's desires or wants as clearly as their own. Look at what Hitler did, and how no one stood up to him. Look at the Environazis and how they cannot allow off-roading, period; or the different opinions here on the board about the drags.

Most people will stand up for their rights eventually, if they're really pushed to the wall. Very few people will stand up for other people's rights because they don't want to get involved, or just don't see the need.

Does this mean we should burn the environazis' cars???????????

I'm not advocating that. But if it happens, please post videos!

All right..........if I get caught I promise not to mention your name...

If the number of dune users dwindles... there will be less force to be reckoned with when people are working to close the dunes... granted, there are many more un-educated dune users than the educated. Though most are very good people, there is the small percent that no amount of education will "fix"

Harsh enforcement in the same haphazard fashion that is occurring today and has occurred in the past will only work to reduce the number of good people going to the dunes... Closing the drags or the hills will stop the bad people from going to the dunes, but it will also deter the good...

The laws that are needed for people's safety and for the beauty of Mother G are already in effect... we don't need any further laws... we need the competent enforcement of those in existence. How many times have you seen officers speeding off to catch someone with a broken whip at the base of Olds, only to ignore the guys burning a couch?