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fastlimey
Few pics from the engine dyno

she made 900hp and 800 tq
this one we put a Dailey dry sump system on it , Best oil control that we have seen so far with these bbcs

This is the most NA power we have made with a convential big block head , We have made more with a big duke head but i was impressed with this setup ,

Im building another one this week that im shooting for 1200 hp NA with a big duke head .

Supreme Air
Nice # out of standard Bb heads how much more h/p do you think the big dukes give you? ....what compression are you going to run to get 1200 15/1 ?
fastlimey
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 4 2008, 02:59 PM) *
Nice # out of standard Bb heads how much more h/p do you think the big dukes give you? ....what compression are you going to run to get 1200 15/1 ?



Yes the next one is 15.1 and 632 with 10.7 deck ,7.100 oliver rods , Im using the new CNC PB sweet 16 big duke head it flows 515 + CFM
here are a few pics


Sandzilla
headbang.gif Nasty!
comphill
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WIDE LOAD
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 4 2008, 07:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 4 2008, 02:59 PM) *
Nice # out of standard Bb heads how much more h/p do you think the big dukes give you? ....what compression are you going to run to get 1200 15/1 ?



Yes the next one is 15.1 and 632 with 10.7 deck ,7.100 oliver rods , Im using the new CNC PB sweet 16 big duke head it flows 515 + CFM
here are a few pics

Nice bullet! Got to love those Big Duke heads.
Jumpnbean
thats bad@$$ thumb.gif
madweazl
Big blocks give me a chub hethan.gif How much does a turnkey weigh?
Brandon Long
Very cool, that has to have gobs of torque.



Brandon
Heybeerman
Thats that I like to see....intake ports big enough to stick your arm throug yay.gif
fastlimey
QUOTE (madweazl @ Nov 5 2008, 12:07 AM) *
Big blocks give me a chub hethan.gif How much does a turnkey weigh?



This motor weighed 519 lbs ready to go in the crate

a ls motor weighs 485 lbs
a ls motor with a whipple blower weighes 545 lbs !!!
madweazl
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 5 2008, 02:29 PM) *
QUOTE (madweazl @ Nov 5 2008, 12:07 AM) *
Big blocks give me a chub hethan.gif How much does a turnkey weigh?



This motor weighed 519 lbs ready to go in the crate

a ls motor weighs 485 lbs
a ls motor with a whipple blower weighes 545 lbs !!!


I figured as much. I wish I'd gone this route vice the LS1, next time smile.gif
WHAT'S NEXT?
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 5 2008, 02:29 PM) *
QUOTE (madweazl @ Nov 5 2008, 12:07 AM) *
Big blocks give me a chub hethan.gif How much does a turnkey weigh?



This motor weighed 519 lbs ready to go in the crate

a ls motor weighs 485 lbs
a ls motor with a whipple blower weighes 545 lbs !!!

Whats the price difference between the two?
ISBB
QUOTE (WHAT'S NEXT? @ Nov 5 2008, 02:28 PM) *
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 5 2008, 02:29 PM) *
QUOTE (madweazl @ Nov 5 2008, 12:07 AM) *
Big blocks give me a chub hethan.gif How much does a turnkey weigh?



This motor weighed 519 lbs ready to go in the crate

a ls motor weighs 485 lbs
a ls motor with a whipple blower weighes 545 lbs !!!

Whats the price difference between the two?



exactly what i was thinking.. dollar for dollar which is a better deal.. a built ls2 with a whipple or a built big block N/A.. I would imagine in the long run the big block just because of the savings on gas since you can run that much HP on pump.. but what do i know im a pesky dirt bike rider icon_biggrin.gif
mpfi632
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 4 2008, 07:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 4 2008, 02:59 PM) *
Nice # out of standard Bb heads how much more h/p do you think the big dukes give you? ....what compression are you going to run to get 1200 15/1 ?



Yes the next one is 15.1 and 632 with 10.7 deck ,7.100 oliver rods , Im using the new CNC PB sweet 16 big duke head it flows 515 + CFM
here are a few pics



Whats the 632 BBC slated for, sandrail?
Supreme Air
QUOTE (mpfi632 @ Nov 5 2008, 07:24 PM) *
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 4 2008, 07:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 4 2008, 02:59 PM) *
Nice # out of standard Bb heads how much more h/p do you think the big dukes give you? ....what compression are you going to run to get 1200 15/1 ?



Yes the next one is 15.1 and 632 with 10.7 deck ,7.100 oliver rods , Im using the new CNC PB sweet 16 big duke head it flows 515 + CFM
here are a few pics



Whats the 632 BBC slated for, sandrail?

what else would you put it in moof.gif
WIDE LOAD
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 5 2008, 08:30 PM) *
QUOTE (mpfi632 @ Nov 5 2008, 07:24 PM) *
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 4 2008, 07:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 4 2008, 02:59 PM) *
Nice # out of standard Bb heads how much more h/p do you think the big dukes give you? ....what compression are you going to run to get 1200 15/1 ?



Yes the next one is 15.1 and 632 with 10.7 deck ,7.100 oliver rods , Im using the new CNC PB sweet 16 big duke head it flows 515 + CFM
here are a few pics



Whats the 632 BBC slated for, sandrail?

what else would you put it in moof.gif

AMEN 25cheers.gif
JTBONE
QUOTE (WHAT'S NEXT? @ Nov 5 2008, 02:28 PM) *
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 5 2008, 02:29 PM) *
QUOTE (madweazl @ Nov 5 2008, 12:07 AM) *
Big blocks give me a chub hethan.gif How much does a turnkey weigh?



This motor weighed 519 lbs ready to go in the crate

a ls motor weighs 485 lbs
a ls motor with a whipple blower weighes 545 lbs !!!

Whats the price difference between the two?

X2
Supreme Air
QUOTE (JTBONE @ Nov 5 2008, 07:36 PM) *
QUOTE (WHAT'S NEXT? @ Nov 5 2008, 02:28 PM) *
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 5 2008, 02:29 PM) *
QUOTE (madweazl @ Nov 5 2008, 12:07 AM) *
Big blocks give me a chub hethan.gif How much does a turnkey weigh?



This motor weighed 519 lbs ready to go in the crate

a ls motor weighs 485 lbs
a ls motor with a whipple blower weighes 545 lbs !!!

Whats the price difference between the two?

X2

If I was guessing 36k 39k for a 632 with efi and all the good stuff. Nasty ls-2 with a blower mid to high 20k ,ls7 with the blower mid 30s just guessing im sure Danzio will chime in beer.gif
whoopsadaisy
Supreme Air, just wondering why you run a carb vs fuel injection? Because thats the way the builder went, or is there some advantage?
Exotica1
QUOTE (whoopsadaisy @ Nov 6 2008, 12:38 PM) *
Supreme Air, just wondering why you run a carb vs fuel injection? Because thats the way the builder went, or is there some advantage?



With the new president sharing the wealth,he's staying carbed and sending me $$ for my BB Fuel Injection. hethan.gif

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Mick
QUOTE (Exotica1 @ Nov 6 2008, 01:08 PM) *
QUOTE (whoopsadaisy @ Nov 6 2008, 12:38 PM) *
Supreme Air, just wondering why you run a carb vs fuel injection? Because thats the way the builder went, or is there some advantage?



With the new president sharing the wealth,he's staying carbed and sending me $$ for my BB Fuel Injection. hethan.gif

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He also said you need to share that car with me!!! laughing.gif
ISBB
hey im poorer and the proper redistrobution of wealth says i get to drive his car...
fastlimey

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If I was guessing 36k 39k for a 632 with efi and all the good stuff. Nasty ls-2 with a blower mid to high 20k ,ls7 with the blower mid 30s just guessing im sure Danzio will chime in beer.gif
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Right on the money Aaron !!

the race gas 632ci 1200hp Dry sump ,fuel injected with Motec ECU is $37,700

The 582ci 800-900 hp race or pump gas Dry sump ,fuel injected with Motec ECU is $33,000
tsanchez
QUOTE (madweazl @ Nov 5 2008, 03:03 PM) *
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 5 2008, 02:29 PM) *
QUOTE (madweazl @ Nov 5 2008, 12:07 AM) *
Big blocks give me a chub hethan.gif How much does a turnkey weigh?



This motor weighed 519 lbs ready to go in the crate

a ls motor weighs 485 lbs
a ls motor with a whipple blower weighes 545 lbs !!!


I figured as much. I wish I'd gone this route vice the LS1, next time closeeyes.gif



Dude, you know how old you would be then? laughing.gif Might as well do it now
Supreme Air
QUOTE (whoopsadaisy @ Nov 6 2008, 11:38 AM) *
Supreme Air, just wondering why you run a carb vs fuel injection? Because thats the way the builder went, or is there some advantage?

Somebody told me that at high rpms f/i cant deliver enough fuel ?F/i will help with fuel economy though.
socaldmax
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 6 2008, 10:19 PM) *
QUOTE (whoopsadaisy @ Nov 6 2008, 11:38 AM) *
Supreme Air, just wondering why you run a carb vs fuel injection? Because thats the way the builder went, or is there some advantage?

Somebody told me that at high rpms f/i cant deliver enough fuel ?F/i will help with fuel economy though.




Oh yeah. I bet fuel economy is a major concern for you.



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Supreme Air
QUOTE (socaldmax @ Nov 6 2008, 10:25 PM) *
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 6 2008, 10:19 PM) *
QUOTE (whoopsadaisy @ Nov 6 2008, 11:38 AM) *
Supreme Air, just wondering why you run a carb vs fuel injection? Because thats the way the builder went, or is there some advantage?

Somebody told me that at high rpms f/i cant deliver enough fuel ?F/i will help with fuel economy though.




Oh yeah. I bet fuel economy is a major concern for you.



laughing.gif beer.gif

I need one of youre drinks beer.gif
socaldmax
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 6 2008, 10:27 PM) *
QUOTE (socaldmax @ Nov 6 2008, 10:25 PM) *
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 6 2008, 10:19 PM) *
QUOTE (whoopsadaisy @ Nov 6 2008, 11:38 AM) *
Supreme Air, just wondering why you run a carb vs fuel injection? Because thats the way the builder went, or is there some advantage?

Somebody told me that at high rpms f/i cant deliver enough fuel ?F/i will help with fuel economy though.




Oh yeah. I bet fuel economy is a major concern for you.



laughing.gif beer.gif

I need one of youre drinks beer.gif



Sure! You gonna be in G this weekend? If so, we'll have to meet up.
mpfi632
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 4 2008, 03:33 PM) *
Few pics from the engine dyno

she made 900hp and 800 tq
this one we put a Dailey dry sump system on it , Best oil control that we have seen so far with these bbcs

This is the most NA power we have made with a convential big block head , We have made more with a big duke head but i was impressed with this setup ,

Im building another one this week that im shooting for 1200 hp NA with a big duke head .



Chris, what size injectors are you running on this engine? Are you running just the eight?
RoosterBooster
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 6 2008, 11:19 PM) *
QUOTE (whoopsadaisy @ Nov 6 2008, 11:38 AM) *
Supreme Air, just wondering why you run a carb vs fuel injection? Because thats the way the builder went, or is there some advantage?

Somebody told me that at high rpms f/i cant deliver enough fuel ?F/i will help with fuel economy though.

it all depends on the fuel pump, plumbing and injector size.
btw the plumbing is also a sure way to spot over-inflated hp claims tongue.gif ; if a guy claims to have 1000hp and has only -6 fuel lines and a smallish pump on the EFI engine you know he is BS`ing 25bangin.gif laughing.gif

IMHO a carb is less expensive to build... the price for just the fittings to properly plumb a big HP, big CID engine can give you a heart-attack coocoo.gif
IIRC on FlyingRyans TTBB i used -12 main fuel lines feeding into a "pool pump" sized high pressure EFI pump with the -12 output splitting into 2 -10 for each cylinder bank fuel rail. return lines are also -10 ... a little on the overkill side for his current tune (pump gas) but the engine is ready to easy produce about x1.3 the current hp if he would switch to "E85" and at least x1.5 on race gas.

as mpfi632 already hinted; i think next time we would do a "two injector per cylinder" setup; a single large injector is kinda tricky to tune for start-up and low RPM
fastlimey
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 6 2008, 10:19 PM) *
QUOTE (whoopsadaisy @ Nov 6 2008, 11:38 AM) *
Supreme Air, just wondering why you run a carb vs fuel injection? Because thats the way the builder went, or is there some advantage?

Somebody told me that at high rpms f/i cant deliver enough fuel ?F/i will help with fuel economy though.



sombody told you wrong !

Fuel injection would have no problem at Hi rpm with fueling

im running 8 96 lbs/1000cc injectors in the 1200 hp engine
mpfi632
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 5 2008, 08:30 PM) *
QUOTE (mpfi632 @ Nov 5 2008, 07:24 PM) *
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 4 2008, 07:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 4 2008, 02:59 PM) *
Nice # out of standard Bb heads how much more h/p do you think the big dukes give you? ....what compression are you going to run to get 1200 15/1 ?



Yes the next one is 15.1 and 632 with 10.7 deck ,7.100 oliver rods , Im using the new CNC PB sweet 16 big duke head it flows 515 + CFM
here are a few pics



Whats the 632 BBC slated for, sandrail?

what else would you put it in moof.gif


Sonny Leonard is building a 932ci that makes 2200hp and 1475lbs of torque for only $89,300. Sandrail?
Frog Island
I was thinking of getting one for my Funco. tongue.gif
Supreme Air
QUOTE (mpfi632 @ Nov 8 2008, 07:24 PM) *
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 5 2008, 08:30 PM) *
QUOTE (mpfi632 @ Nov 5 2008, 07:24 PM) *
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 4 2008, 07:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Supreme Air @ Nov 4 2008, 02:59 PM) *
Nice # out of standard Bb heads how much more h/p do you think the big dukes give you? ....what compression are you going to run to get 1200 15/1 ?



Yes the next one is 15.1 and 632 with 10.7 deck ,7.100 oliver rods , Im using the new CNC PB sweet 16 big duke head it flows 515 + CFM
here are a few pics



Whats the 632 BBC slated for, sandrail?

what else would you put it in moof.gif


Sonny Leonard is building a 932ci that makes 2200hp and 1475lbs of torque for only $89,300. Sandrail?
If the drive train would handle it i would put it in a Sand car. moof.gif
fastlimey
Some more pics of the 1200 hp one !!
mpfi632
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 10 2008, 02:27 PM) *
Some more pics of the 1200 hp one !!



Now we're talking! Cool piece! Is that the Daily 5 stage pump.
huddy
Sweet BB!

Piper wants to know how much for the Brodix Chair? tongue.gif
fastlimey
QUOTE (huddy @ Nov 11 2008, 08:34 PM) *
Sweet BB!

Piper wants to know how much for the Brodix Chair? tongue.gif



Yes that is a Daily 4 stage pump ,

I spent $25,000 in one order and they gave me the brodix chair beer.gif
huddy
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 12 2008, 02:04 PM) *
QUOTE (huddy @ Nov 11 2008, 08:34 PM) *
Sweet BB!

Piper wants to know how much for the Brodix Chair? tongue.gif



Yes that is a Daily 4 stage pump ,

I spent $25,000 in one order and they gave me the brodix chair beer.gif


Dayum!

She wants one for christmas so she can sit on it while she wrenches. beer.gif
fastlimey
QUOTE (huddy @ Nov 12 2008, 04:31 PM) *
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 12 2008, 02:04 PM) *
QUOTE (huddy @ Nov 11 2008, 08:34 PM) *
Sweet BB!

Piper wants to know how much for the Brodix Chair? tongue.gif



Yes that is a Daily 4 stage pump ,

I spent $25,000 in one order and they gave me the brodix chair beer.gif


Dayum!

She wants one for christmas so she can sit on it while she wrenches. beer.gif


Piper is my #1 engine builder !!
Kansas T
Do I see a stage 2 Buick in the background?
fastlimey
QUOTE (Kansas T @ Nov 12 2008, 04:47 PM) *
Do I see a stage 2 Buick in the background?



Yes you do !! we are doing them for a 1400 race truck
Quickrick
Do you do any Dirt Latemodel engines? SB 2.2 Dry sump about 390 ci LW type stuff?
How would you think that 900 hp bbc would work in a Late Model?
Jumpnbean
drool.gif wub.gif Thats one bad MOFO !!!!!!. I want to see video of this monster on the dyno.
mpfi632
QUOTE (fastlimey @ Nov 10 2008, 02:27 PM) *
Some more pics of the 1200 hp one !!


Chris, who makes that black throttle body, and that must be a 2000cfm unit? Very cool piece!
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