A guy I work with is big into rock crawling and at competitions, talks to alot of BLM type people. He was told that Dumont will be charging fees to camp during several of the holidays this year and next year, will start charging fees for each day. Supposed to be $20 per vehicle per weekend. Unknown if there will be a yearly pass. The Glamis pass won't work at Dumont and Vice Versa.

Vicki, anyone? Have you heard anything about this? It is rumor till I hear from someone who I know talks to the right people.

I've heard nothing about this and will get to work on getting confirmation.

He may be confused with a new "special permit fee" that's been knocked around. I hope so.

Keep your fingers crossed.

Vicki

Ben,

I'm pretty sure it is only a rumor. Last wedneday Mike Ahrens (BLM Barstow OHV coordinator) told me that it is up to Mike Pool (Big boss BLM ca ). Knowing that Ed Waldheim (CORVA) has good contact to Mike Pool and that basically Friends of El Mirage said they accept a fee at El Mirage (for El Mirage only) should also help us at Dumont ...

but we was the whole day on the road (no ... we did not pick up a Kenworth ) ... so I will call Mike tomorrow to find out more

So El Mirage will have a fee program then Thomas? I'm not sure which would be worse, El Mirage or Dumont having fees! Thanks Thomas and Vicki both for looking into it for me.

Ben,

yeah, but that fee at El Mirage was already in the plan 1989 and was agreed by the OHV groups, SBdo County and BLM.

without that fee in that plan 1989 there would be no El Mirage OHV... the county would never spend over $15m to get the land .... how much the fee will be .... we will see, they (BLM) have to come up with a budget and work a little bit at the business plan.

Heard about them charging at Dumont soon after they started charging at sand Mtn....so far at Sand. Mtn. I havn't noticed any changes except a cleaner shiat hole in the ground

Read all about it here.

http://www.americansandassociation.org/php...pic.php?t=14278

Washroad, good job on putting that up. The fee will only be in affect on the Presidents day weekend and Easter week for now. I have been told that all major holidays this year will have a fee and starting sometime next year, the fee will be every day. Not sure how true this.

The BLM states that more people than ever are using the dunes rec area and additional vevenue is needed to pay for road maintainance, staff, medical emergencies, and toilets.

Check out the permit store .com to reserve a pass and save two bucks or call (760) 252-6000 for more info.

It is a great thread and we're a long way from a user-friendly solution.

By the way... sure hope this isn't the "Iparq" that's running "ThePermitStore.com"

Link to IPARQ Corporate Liscense status... Shown as "SUSPENDED"

Interesting!!!! What does that "Suspended" status mean???

I looked it up and http://www.thepermitstore.com is run by IPARQ LLC not INC...
One is owned by B Britten Fisher and the other is owned by Todd Fisher...

Something is VERY fishy here!!!

Anyone make sense of this?

The Pastor

That is an excellent point Thomas. How were they able to circumvent the system and not put this contract our for public bid???

I sure wish I could be there today.

Vicki

From law enforcement to administration this is an agency that is out of control.

The california BLM needs to visit Little sahara in oklahoma, to see how funds are put back into the parks, dunes etc, we try and hit a new duning area each year, though little sahara is quite small compared to our dunes the experience was awesome, all paved roads, pull through camp sites with water and power, camping benches, firepits,bathrooms with HOT showers etc. 100yds to the dunes no matter what campground your in. little sahara is so well organized and suited for the duners, they make enough money there to fund all the other parks in the state. you can ride from your camp to the dunes. it was 15 dollars a day i believe and 7 dollars per day in the dunes, hell i dont mind paying for a good time, at least you could tell where your money was going.

Thanks John! Let's see what we can do...

Any Dumont supporters interested?

Vicki

I am planning to be there as long as work does not rear it's ugly head, I know Thomas will be there also

After spending my first and last weekend at Dumont, I'm amazed they have the balls to charge a dime to visit that place. They should pay us to go there!

But how can that be? According to the BLM, most Dumont visitors welcome the fee!

They wouldn't mislead us, now would they?

vicki,

will be there, and MikeA will also come out to the cleanup .... we have a long hard summer in front of us

stonie,

stop whining ... it's not my mistake that you are a p**** that did not see the dunes ... I have no problem when you stay at Glamis, it's more room for us at Dumont

That's 40 minutes from home. I'd be there if I didn't have to work. It's even to late to take vacation. Stonie, keep telling everyone how terrible Dumont is. Maybe they will all stop coming and the V8 Rail guys and I won't have to share.

Ben,

it's not so a big deal .... there is maybe a more important meeting in the near future where I could use your help ....

btw are you game for the cleanup ? there would be also some opportunities to talk with the blm and let them know what you think about fees

Negative Thomas. I am headed up to Bakersfield for the weekend. I was planning on hitting the cleanup but this trip came up.

Let me know on your other meeting. If I have some notice, I can make sure to have some time off.

Thomas, maybe he was just a'scared

Those pyramid-looking things you guys call dunes are pretty intimidating!

Vicki