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KingGlamis
Hey Slappy,
Superbowl Sunday we duned over to Cement Flats and when we got there found out that we had a hitchhiker in the buggy.
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This little guy was takin' a ride on the buggy seat. He was real friendly too, let us take his picture without flyin' off. But nobody in camp could indentify what brand of creature he is. Any help? I tried doing some research but couldn't find a match.
Moto13
WOW !!! That's a Recluse Spider Fly

copied from an article I had...

The Recluse Spider Fly is a very poisonous spider fly identified by the large horse fly like eyes, it's furry body and pink wings. The Fiddleback Flying Spider is a nearly identical species that is equally poisonous.

The Recluse Spider Fly is typically found in dry climates and likes to build webs in small bushes and trees. However, the spider fly, unlike most common spiders, does not use it's web for catching it's prey. They make a nest from thier web, and do so in many locations typically.

The Recluse Spider Fly generally feeds on small insects and does so by hunting it's prey since it has the ability of flight. It's poison kills an insect almost instantaneously and is then picked up and carried back to it's nest where it will proceed to consume it's meal.

To an adult or bigger child, the spider fly's bite does not normally result in death. But to a small child, the poison could be deadly. About 3 times as many people in the U.S. have died from Recluse Spider Fly bites as have died from Rattlesnake bites. Because of this fact, and because of the long-lasting damage that often results from a bite, Recluse Spider Fly's are considered to be more deadly. The seriousness of a bite will depend on the individual, where on the body they are bit, and how much venom is injected.

Being from the recluse family, the Recluse Spider Fly's venom works identically to the Brown Recluse Spider. It destroys tissue around the bite. Typically, a large swollen area develops not long after the initial bite, with a white blister on the actual bite. This blister soon develops into a "volcano lesion", characterized by a hole that extends into the wound and oozes puss. The hole is the result of gangrenous tissue that develops around the bite.

No anti-venom is available, but Cortisone is often injected around the bite to help minimize tissue damage. Unfortunately, the effects of Recluse Spider Fly bites are long lasting, and recovery can take weeks, even months. Plastic surgery is typically required afterwards.
KingGlamis
QUOTE (CRASH @ Feb 2 2004, 06:32 PM)
WOW !!! That's a Recluse Spider Fly

copied from an article I had...

The Recluse Spider Fly is a very poisonous spider fly identified by the large horse fly like eyes, it's furry body and pink wings. The Fiddleback Flying Spider is a nearly identical species that is equally poisonous.

The Recluse Spider Fly is typically found in dry climates and likes to build webs in small bushes and trees. However, the spider fly, unlike most common spiders, does not use it's web for catching it's prey. They make a nest from thier web, and do so in many locations typically.

The Recluse Spider Fly generally feeds on small insects and does so by hunting it's prey since it has the ability of flight. It's poison kills an insect almost instantaneously and is then picked up and carried back to it's nest where it will proceed to consume it's meal.

To an adult or bigger child, the spider fly's bite does not normally result in death. But to a small child, the poison could be deadly. About 3 times as many people in the U.S. have died from Recluse Spider Fly bites as have died from Rattlesnake bites. Because of this fact, and because of the long-lasting damage that often results from a bite, Recluse Spider Fly's are considered to be more deadly. The seriousness of a bite will depend on the individual, where on the body they are bit, and how much venom is injected.

Being from the recluse family, the Recluse Spider Fly's venom works identically to the Brown Recluse Spider. It destroys tissue around the bite. Typically, a large swollen area develops not long after the initial bite, with a white blister on the actual bite. This blister soon develops into a "volcano lesion", characterized by a hole that extends into the wound and oozes puss. The hole is the result of gangrenous tissue that develops around the bite.

No anti-venom is available, but Cortisone is often injected around the bite to help minimize tissue damage. Unfortunately, the effects of Recluse Spider Fly bites are long lasting, and recovery can take weeks, even months. Plastic surgery is typically required afterwards.

Yeah right CRASH, I don't believe that for a second. Nice try though. laughing.gif
Rubberneck
That little bastard had me fooled. 25brdflick.gif Good job CRASH! Now I'm gonna have my little sister beat the crap out of you.
big had
you jerk...scared the crap outta me..I was reading it thinking, holy shiet man, I gotta start wearing more clothes at G, with tight collars.......... 25soapbox.gif
QueenGlamis
You think you guys were worried! We saw it when we stopped at FasterDaddy's camp, and the little effer was almost in my, well hoo hoo, in the seat! shock.gif
QueenGlamis
Crash, this is for you effer! 25brdflick.gif
Rubberneck
QUOTE (QueenGlamis @ Feb 2 2004, 07:00 PM)
You think you guys were worried! We saw it when we stopped at FasterDaddy's camp, and the little effer was almost in my, well hoo hoo, in the seat! shock.gif

Can you define "hoo hoo" ? laughing.gif
QueenGlamis
QUOTE (Rubberneck @ Feb 2 2004, 07:04 PM)
QUOTE (QueenGlamis @ Feb 2 2004, 07:00 PM)
You think you guys were worried! We saw it when we stopped at FasterDaddy's camp, and the little effer was almost in my, well hoo hoo, in the seat! shock.gif

Can you define "hoo hoo" ? laughing.gif

Something you get NONE of! laughing.gif
Rubberneck
laughing.gif I won't say anything. I'm a nice guy to you. icon_wink.gif
QueenGlamis
Sucks to be you, I will give you shiat you effer! icon_wink.gif Hey and quit hijacking the effen thread!
Rubberneck
laughing.gif CRASH hijacked it. I followed the leader. icon_wink.gif
Slappy
Hor darn CRASH, you had Slap shakin in his boots with that one...WHEW...Slap was goin flabbermcnasty on that one...Well KG, Slap ain't seen that one before, but has seen quite a few all white moths similar and about the size of half of yo pinky maybe? BUT, with his red colored wings, that could be that his wings were injured, Slap can't tell. Were the red color in his wings blurred, or was the color sharp and clear? You might have been able to tell up close when you was with him. He sure is a beauty with them big beautimus eyes icon_biggrin.gif , Slap wishes he woulda seen him. Gonna look deeper into that one KG, and thanks for the sweet pic.

Slap is sure he got a good ride with the KingMobile, and he was probably smilin the whole way...or he was screamin, OOOOOOOOHHHHHH SSSSHHHHHIIIIIIII...

CRASH, that little piece of yours is goin into the McScrappbook icon_biggrin.gif ...Very creative, Slap likes that.
Fireballsocal
Slap, I came across an interesting creature but didn't get a picture. It was a lizard about 4 inches long from chin to tail and it was bright green. It dug itself into the sand when i passed so I only got a quick look. I have seen plenty of fringes but none that were bright green. Maybe he had been up drinking with the dune troll the night before? icon_wink.gif
Slappy
HMMM, it was green? Don't know yet Fireball...OOOOHHH YOU SHOULDA GOTTA PIC FIREBALL, how sweet that woulda been. But Slap understands, goin 80 on that new icon_wink.gif firey red 500 disguised as a 250 can be tough...
jhitesma
Here's a visitor I found in our camp a few years back...though I had lost this photo but found it in a stash that turned up a few weeks ago:

user posted image

Click here for big version

Sorry I didn't get a better shot but I didn't really want to get too close to him and he was kinda in the shade and my old camera wasn't too happy about that.

Anyone know what kind of slinky fellow that was we had visiting our camp?

Cacti'
Being that CRASH posted this I figured it to be B.S. I am gullible most of the time but not THIS TIME!!!!!


The brown recluse is real though!!!! ph34r.gif
Kelster
QUOTE (cacti' @ Feb 2 2004, 10:21 PM)
Being that CRASH posted this I figured it to be B.S. I am gullible most of the time but not THIS TIME!!!!!


The brown recluse is real though!!!! ph34r.gif

Did you know that gullible isn't in the dictionary???? icon_confused.gif It's not a real word icon_confused.gif
Cacti'
OK is that thing real? somebody please tell me!!!!
Kelster
Actually it is real. I had a friend get bitten by one of those Recluse Spider Flies out at the River. Her leg swelled up something awful and she had to go to the doctor to get some medication to bring down the swelling and help with the pain.
Cacti'
QUOTE (Kelster @ Feb 2 2004, 10:27 PM)
QUOTE (cacti' @ Feb 2 2004, 10:21 PM)
Being that CRASH posted this I figured it to be B.S.    I am gullible most of the time but not THIS TIME!!!!!


The brown recluse is real though!!!! ph34r.gif

Did you know that gullible isn't in the dictionary???? icon_confused.gif It's not a real word icon_confused.gif

Don't go all webster on me Kelster.... laughing.gif
Cacti'
QUOTE (Kelster @ Feb 2 2004, 10:29 PM)
Actually it is real. I had a friend get bitten by one of those Recluse Spider Flies out at the River. Her leg swelled up something awful and she had to go to the doctor to get some medication to bring down the swelling and help with the pain.

Oh yeah now kelster in on it too???? blink.gif I'm skurred now. I was stuck alone in a house with a brown recluse once and I had to kill it......I don't kill daddy long legs though. I love them icon_biggrin.gif
Kelster
I'm not in on anything. I'm totally serious.


So, do you call Crash "Daddy Long Leg" icon_wink.gif laughing.gif
Cacti'
Ok I'll learn to read...King glamis started this. tongue.gif
Fireballsocal
Jason, hard to tell but it looks like a western diamond back rattler.
jhitesma
QUOTE (Fireballsocal @ Feb 3 2004, 07:05 PM)
Jason, hard to tell but it looks like a western diamond back rattler.

Youch! That's what I was afraid of!

I found him in the morning when I returned to our "Port-a-shrub" to recycle some beverages. Glad he wasn't hanging out the night before when it was dark and the area saw a lot more people blink.gif
Rubberneck
Jason, when I was younger we'd see at least one rattlesnake every weekend we were out there. They were all over the place. Mainly near the bushes so we camped away from them. I haven't seen on in a long time. Nice to know they're still around. beer.gif

If you don't bother them, they won't bother you. At least I hope not.
KingGlamis
I hear SideWinders are becoming much more prevalent in the dunes these days. icon_wink.gif
Rubberneck
QUOTE (KingGlamis @ Feb 3 2004, 08:32 PM)
I hear SideWinders are becoming much more prevalent in the dunes these days. icon_wink.gif

Can somebody give this man a drum roll please?
Kevin
maybe if they were cheapre there'd be more of em icon_wink.gif
jhitesma
I spotted him from about 10 feet away. I saw movement and that was enough for me to keep my distance! I grabbed the camera and let it get a closeup look for me icon_biggrin.gif

That was camped right along the sandhighway on the way to olds. Close enough to 78 we could hear the semis rolling at night and close enough to the sandhighway that when we camp there now people drive though our camp icon_sad.gif

I've had a few snake runins hiking though the desert but didn't know they liked the dunes too until I saw that one. After that I've been more careful about keeping an eye out for them!
Rubberneck
I don't think I've seen one at Glamis before. They were all on the flats at Buttercup. Right near the old plank road. Sometimes at night I'll think about that while I'm near a bush. Makes me think twice.
LateNate
QUOTE (jhitesma @ Feb 2 2004, 10:16 PM)
Here's a visitor I found in our camp a few years back...though I had lost this photo but found it in a stash that turned up a few weeks ago:

user posted image

Click here for big version

Sorry I didn't get a better shot but I didn't really want to get too close to him and he was kinda in the shade and my old camera wasn't too happy about that.

Anyone know what kind of slinky fellow that was we had visiting our camp?

It could be a Western Diamondback. The tail looks like it but I can’t see the shape of the head and it’s a little to fuzzy to see the pattern on its back.

Here’s a Western Diamondback:
LateNate
QUOTE (Kelster @ Feb 2 2004, 10:27 PM)
Did you know that gullible isn't in the dictionary????  icon_confused.gif  It's not a real word  icon_confused.gif


People aren’t that gullible are they? laughing.gif
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gullible
icon_biggrin.gif
jhitesma
QUOTE (Fixxxer78 @ Feb 13 2004, 12:06 AM)

It could be a Western Diamondback. The tail looks like it but I can’t see the shape of the head and it’s a little to fuzzy to see the pattern on its back.

I think the tail is actually still hanging down into the hole it crawled out of - at least that's what I THINK I see when I look at the photo icon_biggrin.gif

I was really bummed when I saw how fuzzy the photo was. On the in-cam preview it looked good and sharp...but when I got home it was pretty fuzzy icon_sad.gif

Would have tried to take another but didn't want to get close and it looked good on the preview so why take the risk.

BTW Nate, if you remember where you and Babysitter found us camped at the cleanup last year....that was where this was taken under one of the local bushes icon_biggrin.gif Not that year but almost that exact spot.
LateNate
QUOTE (jhitesma @ Feb 13 2004, 12:02 AM)
Would have tried to take another but didn't want to get close and it looked good on the preview so why take the risk.

Sounds like somebody is scared of snakes! icon_biggrin.gif You were so far away it didn’t even care you where there. A snake can’t strike from an elongated state! Now if you walked closer and it curled up and stuck your camera in it’s face then you might be in trouble.


I saved that pic and then increased the brightness and you can see the black and white stripes on the tail. Of course there are several subspecies of rattler that could be but out there the Western Diamondback and Sidewinder are the most common. Actually I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Diamondback around the dunes. I’ve seen lots of Sidewinders though.
jhitesma
QUOTE
Sounds like somebody is scared of snakes! icon_biggrin.gif


Not scared of all snakes - just those that could potentially be painfull to have a run in with icon_biggrin.gif Grew up in an area with no poisonous snakes so I know my natural reactions aren't up to par so I try to play it safe around here instead....almost stepped on a rattler one and that did put the fear into me blink.gif

QUOTE
  You were so far away it didn’t even care you where there.


Good to hear that - it's exactly what I was hoping for icon_biggrin.gif

QUOTE

  A snake can’t strike from an elongated state!  Now if you walked closer and it curled up and stuck your camera in it’s face then you might be in trouble.


Or If I had gone though with my original plans for the bit of dirt he was crawling across. I don't think snakes take too kindly to having recycled beverages sprayed on them blink.gif
LateNate
Doug, you ever find out what kind of moth that is?
flashpoint
Hope I never run into one of those !
Thelast929
icon_biggrin.gif rollsmile.gif I'm thinking Crash thought up his little "creature" to have a story for the ladies until the medication and creams he got from the clinic start working! laughing.gif
Slappy
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