BLM LEOs were out in force writing citations to anyone who wasn't street legal driving to and from Boardmanville.
Waiting to pounce on singles or groups, it didn't matter.
Some of the folks we talked to said 30 minutes or more wait time to receive their ticket.
The couple of stops we witnessed weren't to professional by BLM.
Since when is it safe to block the whole road with your LEO vehicle while you cite 1 quad rider who has pulled over into a wash opening and completely out of the roadway ? And when asked to move his vehicle out of the way, so law abiding folks could pass, the response given is when he is finished with his stop.
How many LEOs does it take to write 4 tickets ? apparently only one, until enough folks stop to chat with the offenders. that the single BLM LEO must have felt threatened, so we radio for backup, which arrives in the form of two more BLM LEOs and one UPRR uniformed officer, who just stand and watch. Nice use of resources.

The one BLM LEO we spoke to, when asked about the enforcement, stated that BLM had received several complaints from street legal vehicle owners who had complained of OHVs passing them, roosting them, and generally driving too fast for the road conditions.
That's why BLM has responded in force, according to this ranger.
maybe, maybe not, I was roosted a couple years ago by a dirt bike.

So did the County of Imperial ask BLM to start enforcing the rules ?
Where is the ICSO ? seems the sheriff would want in on some of this action.

seems like BLM higherups are putting their guys into dangerous encounters with the public, that could be avoided if a sign were posted advising the rules now enforced.

If they spent half that effort on enforcing wash road speeding, maybe the RR would have gotten a bug up their (_|_)...



Or maybe not. But I know many peeps would be happy they didnt get a MH window broken!

First off, if you're on the road and not supposed to be, you have nothing to complain about when you get your ticket. I know I take my chance on the road every time we are at Glamis. I get roosted by dirt bikes EVERY trip down that road. I actually expect it and deal with it. I might feel differently if I was in my truck.

I can't say for sure because I don't spend much time in the washes for enforcing an actual speed limit out there can't be easy. They can't really do a 'pace' in such a short time span. Most judges I have dealt with want at least a 1/2 mile pace. Doing so would cause the ranger/deputy to have to drive at least as fast as the offender. Probably not the best idea. I'm far from a radar expert but I know when we had motor officers trying to use it on the boardwalk in Mission Beach many years ago, it didn't work out well because of so many "targets" for the radar to bounce off of.

We just came home from Ocotillo Wells today and there were postings all over the Split Mtn store that tickets for driving on the road with off road vehicles is $300 !!!

how about cut back on the enforcement and help or state budget crises or send me my money!!!!!!!!!!

well I did enjoy going to Boardmanville guess them days are over

Man... Looks like the Boardmanville bar & store will be needing those dallor bills that are stuck all over it to make ends meet if they keep that up. I had no idea it was even a public road let alone get a ticket for driving on it. I have never seen a sign or posting saying anything to the effect. Maybe posting a speed limit at the entrance would help.

I just got word from one of the locals that Ted Kipf and Boardmanville roads were just established as dual purpose roads in a meeting last night. Official paperwork is being finalized but we should be able to access Boardmanville now.

Ted Kipf is only Dual purpose from Highway 78 to Boardmanvile Road, beyond that it is for street legal vehicles only.

good!!!
thanks robbie!!!

Cool! That would have really blew hard! Even though we don't go there as often as we used to, it's still nice to know it's there and accessible.

thats how i feel, i never go there, but i cant stand to see us lose any more land out there period!!!!

Good news Robbie! Now if I don't feel like drinking my beer that is paid for in my cooler I can ride over there and pay for some.

Jason, never thought of it that way but you my friend are 100% correct!!


Frank

Bummer we already got a ticket for it, any way to not pay the ticket?

throw yourself at the mercy of the court
inform "your honor" that the road has just been reclassified.
show the proof from the meeting
keep fingers crossed
that's going to be a very crowded courtroom and the judge or judges are going to hear an earful I'm sure.

what sucks, it is federal, so I think they have to go to San Diego from LA to fight it....................cheaper to pay $100.00

Robbie... since this is a County road from what I'm told, did this get accomplished under this provision of the California Vehicle Code?

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38026. (a) In addition to Section 38025 and after complying with
subdivision © of this section, if a local authority, an agency of
the federal government, or the Director of Parks and Recreation finds
that a highway, or a portion thereof, under the jurisdiction of the
authority, agency, or the director, as the case may be, is located in
a manner that provides a connecting link between off-highway motor
vehicle trail segments, between an off-highway motor vehicle
recreational use area and necessary service facilities, or between
lodging facilities and an off-highway motor vehicle recreational
facility and if it is found that the highway is designed and
constructed so as to safely permit the use of regular vehicular
traffic and also the driving of off-highway motor vehicles on that
highway, the local authority, by resolution or ordinance, agency of
the federal government, or the Director of Parks and Recreation, as
the case may be, may designate that highway, or a portion thereof,
for combined use and shall prescribe rules and regulations therefor.
No highway, or portion thereof, shall be so designated for a
distance of more than three miles. No freeway shall be designated
under this section.
(b) The Off-Highway Motor Vehicle Recreation Commission may
propose highway segments for consideration by local authorities, an
agency of the federal government, or the Director of Parks and
Recreation for combined use.
© Prior to designating a highway or portion thereof on the
motion of the local authority, an agency of the federal government,
or the Director of Parks and Recreation, or as a recommendation of
the Off-Highway Motor Vehicle Recreation Commission, a local
authority, an agency of the federal government, or the Director of
Parks and Recreation shall notify the Commissioner of the California
Highway Patrol, and shall not designate any segment pursuant to
subdivision (a) which, in the opinion of the commissioner, would
create a potential traffic safety hazard.
(d) A designation of a highway, or a portion thereof, under
subdivision (a) shall become effective upon the erection of
appropriate signs of a type approved by the Department of
Transportation on and along the highway, or portion thereof.
The cost of the signs shall be reimbursed from the Off-Highway
Vehicle Trust Fund, when appropriated by the Legislature, or by
expenditure of funds from a grant or cooperative agreement made
pursuant to Section 5090.50 of the Public Resources Code.

This Is What I Was Sent Yesterday.

It has not been designated. It is a very complicated process that needs to start with application that has never been submittted and ends with an approval by the CHP after the County Board decides to do it. It is limited to 3 miles and has some specific limitations about connecting trails or accessing necessary lodging or supplies ... like gasoline and groceries ... Pizza and daffyducktails might make an interesting application, but someone is going to have to convince the Commissioner of the CHP that this is a necessit

so my understanding is it has NOT BEEN DESIGNATED THEY ARE STILL RIGHTING TICKETS...........Tim

This proposed legislation might help in the future.

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2009 CA S 615
AUTHOR: Ashburn
VERSION: Introduced
VERSION DATE: 02/27/2009



SENATE BILL No. 615
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INTRODUCED BY Senator Ashburn
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FEBRUARY 27, 2009

An act to add Section 21101.5 to the Vehicle Code, relating to vehicles.


LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST

SB 615, as introduced, Ashburn. Vehicles: off-highway motor vehicles.

Existing law prohibits a person from operating an off-highway vehicle upon a highway. However, off-highway motor vehicles issued an identification plate or device may cross highways or be driven or operated on a local highway under specified conditions.

This bill would authorize a local authority of a city having an area of at least 200 square miles to adopt rules and regulations, by ordinance or resolution, to temporarily allow the use of public streets under its jurisdiction by off-road vehicles for a period of not more than 18 months if, after a specified public hearing, specified conditions are found to exist.

The bill would also authorize the local authority to issue permits for this purpose and to charge a fee to cover the costs incurred by the local authority.

Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: no. State-mandated local program: no.

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. Section 21101.5 is added to the Vehicle Code, to read:

21101.5. (a) A local authority may, by ordinance or resolution, adopt rules and regulations for temporarily allowing the use of public streets by off-road vehicles under its jurisdiction when the following conditions are, after a public hearing, found to exist:

(1) The local authority finds and determines there is substantial and continual off-road vehicle activity in the portion of the street recommended for temporary off-road vehicle use. This finding and determination shall be based upon the recommendation of the police department or, in the case of a street in an unincorporated area, on the joint recommendation of the sheriff's department and the Department of the California Highway Patrol.

(2) The street has not been designated as a through street or arterial street.

(3) Off-road vehicle traffic on the street supports substantial recreational activity and imposes significant burden on local public safety services.

(4) The closure will not substantially or adversely affect traffic flow, safety on the adjacent streets or in the surrounding neighborhoods, the operation of emergency vehicles, the performance of municipal or public utility services, or the delivery of freight by commercial vehicles.

(b) A street may be temporarily designated for off-road vehicle use pursuant to subdivision (a) for not more than 18 months, except that this period may be extended for not more than five additional consecutive periods of not more than 18 months each if, prior to each of those extensions, the local authority holds a public hearing and finds, by ordinance or resolution, the conditions set forth in subdivision (a) continue to exist.

© The local authority shall mail written notice of the public hearing required under subdivision (a) or (b) to residents and owners, as shown on the last equalized assessment roll, of property adjacent to the portion of the street where a temporary use by off-road vehicles or extension of temporary use is proposed.

(d) Regulations adopted under this section may provide for the issuance of permits to off-road vehicles for the use of the streets. The local agency may levy a reasonable fee to cover costs incurred by the agency.

(e) This section shall apply to cities having an area of at least 200 square miles.

Zack at Dunes Edge told me (on friday) that Ted would be dual use for the 2.1 miles out to the boardmanville road, but no further!!!

they are not trying to make the whole road dual use, please be aware of this fact!!!!



i had a few friends head over to boardmanville this weekend, and no one got a ticket for it (on quads). anyone see a ranger or get a ticket this weekend??

Good info from both gents.

Please keep us informed.

So its safe to say this issue is "In Process" of resoloution.

This is really good news.

But I'm still scratching my head as to the authority used to make this happen.

Ted Kipf Road is a County of Imperial Road isn't it?

They are still writing tickets as of Saturday . as a good friend of mine got one.

yes it is a county road.

i spoke with the head of the county building and planning department today .

his words :

this item was presented at the last board of supervisors meeting Tuesday.
the board said they would support it . however the process to make it a duel purpose road is a very lengthy one .
and would take alot of time.

my word :

the LEO'S are still righting tickets .

ifen you want a ticket then just drive down ted khip road.

Tim

drag..........

This makes me think that the process I described in my post above from the 38000 section of the Vehicle Code (existing law) is what some are attempting to use.

And, I did some checking with both the agenda of the BOS meeting tomorrow and don't find it there about this issue in the minutes of the last meeting.