hey guys, my friend was with me at gordons over thxgiving and got a ticket for a failure to pay because he didnt know he needed to buy a pass. he says that the number they gave him just keeps ringing busy, so i said i would try to help him out. does anyone here know what the fine is? he said its a violation 38301.

I think it's somewhere in the $100 range. My father-in-law got one earlier this year (long ugly story about how he didn't deserve it), I'll have to check with him. BTW, your name have anything to do with Lebowski?

he got through this morning, $146. he also has a long ugly story abouthow he doesnt deserve it. one ranger said he didnt need to buy one, then the one checking passes on the way out said e need one and woudn let him go back and buy one. even though he was only 50ft away from the pay station.

ya good catch, i love the big lebowski, its such a great movie!

One of the all-time greats, for sure. We all rolled in late one night, like around 10:30, didn't want to go buy passes then (at Gecko, no pay stations on the canal). Figured we'd go next morning. 7 a.m., rangers roll into our camp and start ticketing. I bought my pass the week before, so I was cool. Someone hops on a bike and hauls ass to go get the passes for the rest of our group. By the time he comes back, we've all told our sob story, and the rangers are writing tickets anyways. One guy rips the ticket up when he sees that the vehicle he was writing up now has a valid pass. Turns to his partner and says "Let's go," the guy turns back and says "I'm not finished writing this ticket yet." So, even though we had a parking pass on the truck BEFORE the ticket was completely written, he wouldn't let us slide. Evil...

DAVe