well guys we are looking to get a toy hauler now the big hitch in this is it needs to be able to be towed with a jeep rubicon unlimited and haul a 8'2 buggy in it buggy is 61 inches wide and 98 long now i have seen a few out there the jeep has a 3500 lbs tow rating
this is the lightest
http://www.azdunesport.com/inventory_view....e=DSCF0766.jpg#
and this the well it seams like its got every thing i like that it has a top bed too
http://dunesports.com/inventory_view.php?orderid=117984

you need to find out what your towing capacity is, and then look from there....

Paula towed her Raptor on a 7' flat bed with her 02 TJ and said never again was a handfull. All about the tail waggin the dog. While hers had a shorter wheelbase it wasn't that big of a load. Also when figuring out what you can tow remember the drag factor in that sail of a trailer your pulling thru the wind

the jeep has 3500 lbs tow rating for the unlimited the regular has a 2000 pound rating

how much does the buggy weigh? if it is around 1000 lbs, then the trailer can only weigh 2500, but you will more than likely dislike towing it.....

If you only have a 3500lb towing cap... you should only be towing a flatbed...

The likelihood of damage to your tow vehicle is high, it'll probably be a big handful and I'm not even mentioning an accident.

You MAY be able to find a simple enclosed trailer (just a box) that you'd be able to tow... but even then, you'll be at max capacity and pulling it will not be nice nor will it be safe.

Both of those trailers will weigh over 3500 when loaded up with food/bedding/propane/water etc... that's without the buggy and gas etc.

In the pic it shows a top bed but I called dune sport and asked about it they said the top bed is only available on the 15 foot not the 14 foot. I have been looking also for a light toy hauler to pull with my grand cherokee. I looked at the carson trailer but you get more with the dune sport rv then carson for the same price.

by a inclosed racer trailer add a bed and counter and poof there you go

buggy weighs 700 pounds

i thik you guys are right that we will not like towing it but what other options do we even have need to get a jeep and buggy to places and a place to sleep and we dont want to sleep in a tent

right now we dont have a jeep so we sleep in the back of our 01 excursion

if we got a larger trailer we need a bumper tow so we could tow it with our excursion its diesel but we need like 22 feet of storage i have yet to see a trailer with that kind of space

now the converting was another option but we dont really want to "reinvent the wheel" would like a refrigerator and poop deck if you catch my drift

you have a excursion????? tow with that! you can find a WW for cheap that is huge that you can get a reciever hitch and go to town

yes dj but i cant find a dang trailer big enough for a jeep (13ft) and buggy (8'2)

ah the other thing to worry about is the weight it would be too much for a excursion to pull if you found one. Sounds like you are asking to step up to the 450 with a huge fifth wheel

I pulled a 16 ft wells cargo with an FJ cruiser. Loaded around 3500. 7ft wide body 8 ft axles,brakes on all four.
put a sofa bed and a porta potty and shelving, four quads (300,250, 80,90). Wife and two kids spent 6 nights in Glamis, 5 in Pismo and a few weekend trips in the local area. Ended up upgrading truck and trailer. Pulled a 14 foot tandem open trailer with 4 ATCs @2500 with an 02 Wrangler. Not good.

if it was me i would buy a bare box, add a head and fold out beds and tow them both. i have never seen a toybox being towed by any wrangler and i dont recomend u do it.

The Weekend Warrior FB3000 has 20' to the first cabinet and can be pulled by a diesel Excursion. You could probably pull that buggy 2' into the kitchen since it's not too wide.

However...

That's a lot of weight for any trailer to be hauling around. I'm not sure of the exact numbers but I would guess that it's close to 4,000 lbs... or more. If you found a trailer with aluminum sides, it would help out a lot but, you'll still be cutting it close.

It could be possible though if the numbers are right...

Its the short wheel base of the tow vehicle that will make towing anything more than a single axle flat bed over 2k lbs. a major hand full. Anything enclosed would have to be loaded with perfect tongue weight... to much tw and the short lever makes your front end squirly and not enough will wag you like a dog as soon as you hit 55 mph.
Anything blows by you at high speed is going to test our tallent and a big semi will land you in the weeds.

buggy is like 56 inches wide in the front and 61 in the back

i am not sure the tow rating on the excursion but fyi
our excursion is diesel
4x4
and has a banks shift kit and exhaust

Rubs had an FS3000 (front sleeper) with fiberglass sides and towed it with his Excursion. He had his Buckshot in there too which is about what... 3,000 lbs? He didn't have any problems as far as I know of.

Look in the Trader and online for a Weekend Warrior FB 2600 or 3000 and go measure the width in the kitchen and see if it would work.

I still think that's a lot of weight to haul around though...

carson makes a 34 foot front bath bumper pull with 26 foot of space you can fit anything in that beast.

the excursion has a 10-15000 tow rating not sure but its the big one with the tow package too i feel like the monster could do it

thanks for the help guys i will be searching now

ok so that thing is only freeking 30 feet long i thought for sure it was more why is it tripple axle if its only 30 ?

this is it right ?
http://www.a1warriortrailers.com/fb.htm#specs

from the looks of it the 26 only has 19 to the end of the kitchen am i right ?

now another question are we going to need to worry about hight of the door trying to put a jeep in it ?

the jeep weights is around 4000 and the buggy is 700 would this trailer take at most 4700 lbs ?


is there a company that builds toy haulers out of regular enclosed that have air/heat/water/electric/stove/ all that good stuff
we would like ti keep it to under 30 feet or dual axle dont want to go tripple axle we could get a 27 foot that has been converted and that would be it right there

That's not your "at Most" weight. That is the "at least". Don't forget water, fuel, bedding, food, drinks, other supplies, etc. That stuff all adds up REAL quick. If your lucky you can fill up where your going but that is not a guarantee at all.

yup its going to be a bugger to tow

I honestly could not tell you. What you need to do is find someone with an aluminum sided FB3000 and see if they know what the true dry weight of the trailer is. Not the sticker, but what it weighs sitting on the scale. Then, see what the axles and all six tires are rated for and subtract your trailer weight from the lowest of those two (the axles or the tires).

I'd venture to guess one of those is about 8,000 dry so you're gonna be at 13,000+ all loaded up...

As stated above, Carson makes a more budget interior toy hauler that has more cargo room but I don't know if they are wide enough to fit a Jeep. One of those would have a higher carrying capacity due to less frills but, not much more.

Good luck!

how about this guy
http://carsontrailer.com/subs/trailers/rv_...ll_kitchen.html

will it do the trick ?

here is another
http://carsontrailer.com/subs/trailers/rv_..._pull_bath.html
http://carsontrailer.com/subs/trailers/rv_..._pull_bath.html

If you tow with the Jeep please let us know when so we can stay off the road that day, That is a very bad idea.

There is no way the Excursion is going to have a 15,000 tow rating, you would be lucky to be at 12,000 and more than likely around 10,000. Also you have to watch your Gross Vehicle Weight, Is the Excursion going to be loaded with 4 people and gear? Your really not in good shape either route.

I have a friend who has the warrior 30 ft front bed. He tows with a Chevy 1 ton and loads a Toyota extra cab pick up in it. He has been on a scale and his gross vehical weight was over weight. Your jeep weighs more than the Toyota.


For space look for either a 26 -28 ft front bath model for the most floor space while keeping it as light as possible, Also if your going to load 5000 plus pounds in what ever you get you will need a triple axle model for the weight. I would not recommend a Carson ( And I own one ) to put a jeep in. Your going to need a heavy duty trailer to handle the load. Also check companies like Sport Trailer and let them know what you need under what weight and see if they can do it.


I would look at used trucks and trailers, lots of good deals out there and then you would have more options to do what you want SAFELY.

ifly
you said sport trailer do they have a web site ? i tried to google them nothing

I think they are in Brea, Start a new tread asking for help with quality custon enclosed trailer companys, I know there are a few others that could do the same. These places will build you a enclosed trailer with the basic comforts and could keep the weight down.

yes i think i will do that i tried to google that too and nothing

Carson makes toyhaulers that have ALOT of cargo room, if you get the model with the front bath...My brother has one that fits seven quads...his is 26 ft. I know that they make them longer than his..

what about one of those pop up ones with the storage in the front ? would that be light enough ?

Was searching for something else and stumbled on this thread...

Why not just drive the Jeep out and tow the buggy in a smaller toy hauler with the Excursion?