Looking for pics or info of anyone beefing up their BW ? are they desert worthy or a waste of money and time to beef up to a true dual sport. Thanks in advance.

Depends on how you want to run in the desert. I run fire roads, washes, and deset trails in Az during the summer in my BW. I am not doing 80MPH, but do have some fun. If you want to run the baja then you would want to strart off with a diffrent car.

I notice you have duals in the rear ?

it depends on what you want to do, and how much you want to spend.

If you want a really beefed up DD/BW car call Shawn Jones at Jones Fab in Upland, CA. He has really gone OVER THE TOP w/the buggy. It doesn't have bypass set up, but it could. Extra tranny/engine area bracing, rear shock mount upgrade, trailing arm gussets, double shear the lower front arms, window bracing, roof bracing, etc. Full body, center console, dash, and radiator scoop. The pictures of the hood are of the old one, I believe he was building another one that is identical to TurboLarks and Kevins.

Yes I do. It makes a huge diffrence as I have ridden in of BW cars and they can't handle the woops at all. I would like front dual bypass as well, but I don't know if I will ever upgrade this car.

Jay, I don't think you are talking about my car? I just have to get it right and then I'll give you a run for your money. Besides my spring rates being wrong, I found out one shock had no nitrogen and the other had a blown seal in the resevoir and the nitrogen that was in that shock was mixed with the oil.

I have had 3 BW cars. 2 of them were set up the same by Shawn Jones at Jones Fab (as seen in the pictures above). His number is 909-477-0876. He knows every inch of those cars and knows all the week spots. I would set it up with tripples in the rear for some extra help, but the front is fine with out it. My latest BW doesn't have tripples in the back and I am in the middle of dialing it in. It just needs more tuning and I think it will be OK. I don't think you can really build a race car out of the BW, but I think you can make that frame just as durable as any other dual sport car out there and have a great pre-runner. Here is some pictures of my first one. I never had any issue's with it through the whoops or anything else in the desert. I never beat the heck out of it, but I didn't cruise it either. I think it handled great and you can't beat it for the price and wide variety of stuff that's already made for it.

Taz, quit showing pictures of my car!!! If my V-8 car sells, that one will be my 4th BW car (going back to a V-6).

Or you can call the people who build and sell them.

One Call, That's All!!! Wait, I guess that one is taken already. Well anyway, give us a call and we will be happy to answer all your questions. If you have something which we can not answer, we will get you answers directly from the man who designed and engineered the car.

Generally I can tell you that you are starting with a car which was designed more specifically for sand. Nothing is impossible but the term Dual Sport has a lot of different meanings to a lot of different people. Tech support is free, so give us a call and we will determine exactly what chassis you have and go from there.


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Voyager, what's your meaning of dual sport?

I added X bracing in the roof area, a V in the windshield area, A pillar bars, wider rear arms, extra bracing in the rear area of the car as well as cutting the back off and shorting it 9" along with adding some bends for ground clearance. I also added by-pass shocks all the way around. The car does ok. I believe it is safe if were to go over. The chassis is chromoly.

Alot of what will make the car go for a long time depends on how good of components you put on it. If you run crappy or small hubs or small front spindles then you are asking for trouble especially if you are going to run it hard. I think I could take this car out to hard pack and have fun with it...I do realize that I will not be able to run the whoops and big stuff like a class one car though.

If you are looking for someone to help you out I would probably go to Shaun Jones Shop. He knows alot about these Desert Dynamics cars. He does good work and his prices are good too. Here are some more of my car.

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3MS, What rear arms are those?

Desert Dynamics built them for me. Ask Dave about them.

Thanks 3MS!!! I really like your car. Looks very "dual sport" worthy, "in my opinion". They are deffinitely not class 1 cars, but then again, neither is the "Desert Dynamics dual sport car". Did you know the bigger DD car has the same spidles as a BW (only it has a bigger snout)? But you can still bolt it right on the BW chasis. I think the BW chasis is great. I like the fact that it's a little more narrow than the bigger cars. You don't have to change tires to get it in the trailer. Just remember, a class 11 car isn't a dual sport, it's an off road race car!!!

Left you a message jon.

The newer DD dual sports have a different spindle it is no longer running vertical rod-ends but uses bigger uni-balls mounted horizontal.

thats only with the boxed arms, tube arms are still heims

Oh my bad. I thought all new dual sports came with boxed arms and sand cars came with tube arms/heim spindles?

I do not have the time tonight, but will post a few pictures for you in the next day or two to clarify things for you. You will clearly see that a standard Desert Dynamics Dual Sport Car IS very similar to a Class I DD Car. Both the Sand Sport and Dual Sport can be ordered with tube or plate arms, HOWEVER, the standard configuration for each is tube arms front and rear on the Sand Sport and plate rear and tube upper with plate lower on the Dual Sport. Both come standard with "J" type arms but can be ordered with center pivot "A" arms. The Standard Sand Sport comes with either Combo or King Kong Spindles and Heim Joints, the Standard Dual Sport comes with 2" Hollow Spindles with Uniball joints.

Some people get confused due to the high number of custom configurations which are out there. There is a distinctive difference between a Sand Sport Car and the Dual Sport.

I actually have to switch my front tires and also strap the front. I have to change the rear tires also. Having it narrower does not really help me plus it makes it so my car does not corner as well as the next size up from my car. My buddy has the sand car and it will out corner my car all day long.

I have the wider rear arms so I have to change tires as well.