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nosocks
QUOTE (rivermobster @ Apr 14 2009, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE (gils'ltr @ Apr 14 2009, 06:08 PM) *
WOW............... WELL THE BIKE RAN MUCH BETTER.. BUT STILL CUT OUT ALITTLE AT THE TOP END WHEN IT GOT WARM ......WHAT ADITIVES WOULD BE GOOD TO ADD TO A TANK OF GAS ???????????????THANKS EVERYONE FOR ALL THE INFO .......


Use that Chevron Techroline additive. It actually does clean up your injectors!


And carbs


Fixed our gen.
gils'ltr
I'LL RUN THAT NEXT TIME I'M OUT THERE THANKS
gils'ltr
QUOTE (rivermobster @ Apr 8 2009, 09:09 PM) *
QUOTE (saychz316 @ Apr 8 2009, 08:56 PM) *
if you are not running a power commander on a fuel injected bike, and you are doing all the things you said you did, you are running lean, sorry to say. think about it, would you expect a carbed bike to run the same, doing what you just did without rejetting it? i think not.

you need a power commander, a nice dyno tune from somebody like high deset dyno, and your bike will run so much better, you will not believe. if you think that you can remove the air box lid, (increase air flow) and remove the silencer (sparky, increase exhaust flow) and not think you are affecting the tune, well, its your bike.

the leaner you run a motor, the harder it runs. there comes a point in time where its too lean, and you are doing engine damage. such as melting away your piston dome, scorcing valves, etc.

dont be a tight wad, spend the money. get the power commander, get a dyno tune for what you have done, and your bikes engine will thank you.



ummmm..........

The LT-R was designed to be run exacly how he has it. The Cherry Bomb was designed to work with the stock pipe (silencer removed) and the air box lid removed. The CB richens the mixture and bumps the rev limiter. It should run perfect like this, I know mine does, as long as you use premium fuel.

Devin, if your bike is not running right, a PC will not fix it. You need to find out what's going on, before you start making matters worse! New fuel filter would be a good place to start, along with cleaning your air filter. If its still not right after doing these thing, put a new spark plug in it. MAKE SURE your always using top grade premium fuel! (Chevron or Mobil are best).

Let me know where you go from here...

WELL I DID ALL THAT STUFF HAD IT SERVICED HAD THE VALVES CHECKED AND THEY WHERE IN SPEC NOT SURE WHERE TO GO FROM HERE ...HAD THE COOLANT CHANGED TO THAT ENG. ICE IT DIDN'T HELP..... THE BIKE GOT VERY HOT AND STARTED CUTTING OUT LIKE MAYBE VAPOR LOCKING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT GOING TO HEMET TO GET IT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS
nosocks
Check the petdaffyduck, They usually have a fuel filter of some sort on them.

Do the LTRs have a fuel shutoff? If so, shut it and disconnect the hose and see how well fuel flows from there once it's on into a container. If it's really weak it is possibly clogged, if it flows freely it's fine.

Just another spot to check. If there is no shut of just brace for a mess...or not if it's clogged.

I still seriously doubt you've damaged the motor with regular fuel.
rivermobster
QUOTE (gils'ltr @ May 6 2009, 07:43 PM) *
QUOTE (rivermobster @ Apr 8 2009, 09:09 PM) *
QUOTE (saychz316 @ Apr 8 2009, 08:56 PM) *
if you are not running a power commander on a fuel injected bike, and you are doing all the things you said you did, you are running lean, sorry to say. think about it, would you expect a carbed bike to run the same, doing what you just did without rejetting it? i think not.

you need a power commander, a nice dyno tune from somebody like high deset dyno, and your bike will run so much better, you will not believe. if you think that you can remove the air box lid, (increase air flow) and remove the silencer (sparky, increase exhaust flow) and not think you are affecting the tune, well, its your bike.

the leaner you run a motor, the harder it runs. there comes a point in time where its too lean, and you are doing engine damage. such as melting away your piston dome, scorcing valves, etc.

dont be a tight wad, spend the money. get the power commander, get a dyno tune for what you have done, and your bikes engine will thank you.



ummmm..........

The LT-R was designed to be run exacly how he has it. The Cherry Bomb was designed to work with the stock pipe (silencer removed) and the air box lid removed. The CB richens the mixture and bumps the rev limiter. It should run perfect like this, I know mine does, as long as you use premium fuel.

Devin, if your bike is not running right, a PC will not fix it. You need to find out what's going on, before you start making matters worse! New fuel filter would be a good place to start, along with cleaning your air filter. If its still not right after doing these thing, put a new spark plug in it. MAKE SURE your always using top grade premium fuel! (Chevron or Mobil are best).

Let me know where you go from here...

WELL I DID ALL THAT STUFF HAD IT SERVICED HAD THE VALVES CHECKED AND THEY WHERE IN SPEC NOT SURE WHERE TO GO FROM HERE ...HAD THE COOLANT CHANGED TO THAT ENG. ICE IT DIDN'T HELP..... THE BIKE GOT VERY HOT AND STARTED CUTTING OUT LIKE MAYBE VAPOR LOCKING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT GOING TO HEMET TO GET IT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS


so we have it boiled down (no pun intended) to an overheating problem! not a drivability issue.

is the fan comin on? is it blowing hot or cold air when its on?
gils'ltr
she blows hot !!!!!!!! drivability issue ?????? maybe...... not .......
rivermobster
does the fan run all the time? or cycle on and off?
nosocks
I'm curious what kind of load it's under when running hot
What I'm getting at is if it's being fuel starved and to what extent

Could the air sensor be bad? How about the injector?

rivermobster
QUOTE (nosocks @ May 7 2009, 12:30 PM) *
I'm curious what kind of load it's under when running hot


makes no difference. i was hill shoot'n with the guys for prolly 30 min non stop in last weekends heat. mine never got hot at all. and btw, i never lost a race on that hill...

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nosocks
QUOTE (rivermobster @ May 7 2009, 12:37 PM) *
QUOTE (nosocks @ May 7 2009, 12:30 PM) *
I'm curious what kind of load it's under when running hot


makes no difference. i was hill shoot'n with the guys for prolly 30 min non stop in last weekends heat. mine never got hot at all. and btw, i never lost a race on that hill...

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Edited. Checking for lean conditions...

QUOTE (nosocks @ May 7 2009, 12:30 PM) *
I'm curious what kind of load it's under when running hot
What I'm getting at is if it's being fuel starved and to what extent

Could the air sensor be bad? How about the injector?
rivermobster
if it runs fine till it gets hot, it's prolly run'n ok mixture wise.

never seen a 4 stroke bike overheat from being lean, have you? they usually just melt something!!! laughing.gif
nosocks
QUOTE (rivermobster @ May 7 2009, 12:43 PM) *
if it runs fine till it gets hot, it's prolly run'n ok mixture wise.

never seen a 4 stroke bike overheat from being lean, have you? they usually just melt something!!! laughing.gif


In different air densities my YFZ is VERY tempermental and runs significantly warmer, generally there is a temperature difference to compensate so nothing goes kaboom. I'd imagine this tempermental nature would be overlooked on a FI bike because it adjusts a little here and there. If some part of this failed, we may be back to the same quirks of a carbed bike. I can't say this as a statement of fact, but I don't think it's an unreasonable thought.

As far as "running fine till hot" all of my carbed bikes run fine until hot, then they become hard starting and in extreme temps get a little cranky. Never anything major but who knows if there are electronics problems.

I'm just thinking different here...
rivermobster
QUOTE (nosocks @ May 7 2009, 12:47 PM) *
QUOTE (rivermobster @ May 7 2009, 12:43 PM) *
if it runs fine till it gets hot, it's prolly run'n ok mixture wise.

never seen a 4 stroke bike overheat from being lean, have you? they usually just melt something!!! laughing.gif


In different air densities my YFZ is VERY tempermental and runs significantly warmer, generally there is a temperature difference to compensate so nothing goes kaboom. I'd imagine this tempermental nature would be overlooked on a FI bike because it adjusts a little here and there. If some part of this failed, we may be back to the same quirks of a carbed bike. I can't say this as a statement of fact, but I don't think it's an unreasonable thought.


EFI compensates for all of those things. If something is wrong, (failed sensor) he should have a check/warning light on. but mixture probs dont usually cause overheating.

since the fan blows hot air, im think'n the t-stat is stuck open. but i wanna know what the fan does...
nosocks
QUOTE (rivermobster @ May 7 2009, 12:51 PM) *
QUOTE (nosocks @ May 7 2009, 12:47 PM) *
QUOTE (rivermobster @ May 7 2009, 12:43 PM) *
if it runs fine till it gets hot, it's prolly run'n ok mixture wise.

never seen a 4 stroke bike overheat from being lean, have you? they usually just melt something!!! laughing.gif


In different air densities my YFZ is VERY tempermental and runs significantly warmer, generally there is a temperature difference to compensate so nothing goes kaboom. I'd imagine this tempermental nature would be overlooked on a FI bike because it adjusts a little here and there. If some part of this failed, we may be back to the same quirks of a carbed bike. I can't say this as a statement of fact, but I don't think it's an unreasonable thought.


EFI compensates for all of those things. If something is wrong, (failed sensor) he should have a check/warning light on. but mixture probs dont usually cause overheating.

since the fan blows hot air, im think'n the t-stat is stuck open. but i wanna know what the fan does...


What if it were damaged in a way that the warning wouldn't come up? Totally possible...
rivermobster
QUOTE (nosocks @ May 7 2009, 12:57 PM) *
QUOTE (rivermobster @ May 7 2009, 12:51 PM) *
QUOTE (nosocks @ May 7 2009, 12:47 PM) *
QUOTE (rivermobster @ May 7 2009, 12:43 PM) *
if it runs fine till it gets hot, it's prolly run'n ok mixture wise.

never seen a 4 stroke bike overheat from being lean, have you? they usually just melt something!!! laughing.gif


In different air densities my YFZ is VERY tempermental and runs significantly warmer, generally there is a temperature difference to compensate so nothing goes kaboom. I'd imagine this tempermental nature would be overlooked on a FI bike because it adjusts a little here and there. If some part of this failed, we may be back to the same quirks of a carbed bike. I can't say this as a statement of fact, but I don't think it's an unreasonable thought.


EFI compensates for all of those things. If something is wrong, (failed sensor) he should have a check/warning light on. but mixture probs dont usually cause overheating.

since the fan blows hot air, im think'n the t-stat is stuck open. but i wanna know what the fan does...


What if it were damaged in a way that the warning wouldn't come up? Totally possible...



huh? if what was dammaged???
proshop
QUOTE (jsalazar903 @ Apr 8 2009, 10:36 PM) *
any good places to dyno tune around OC area? i put in my pc3 and full yosh exhaust and just uploaded the fuel maps via dynojets website. is that good enough, or should i get it tuned?

714-892-1300
gils'ltr
fans cycles on and off i went from the compound to olds and it got hot ... i'm not a fast rider and don't ride it that hard ....another ? is it better to run it with the fan running or turn it off and let the fan run to cool it off thanks
rivermobster
QUOTE (gils'ltr @ May 7 2009, 03:14 PM) *
fans cycles on and off i went from the compound to olds and it got hot ... i'm not a fast rider and don't ride it that hard ....another ? is it better to run it with the fan running or turn it off and let the fan run to cool it off thanks


makes no difference. once the motor aint runnin, there is no circulation. its only cooling off whats in the raidator, its not cooling off the engine.

is it pushing coolant out of the overflow reservoir? whats tip'n you off that its overheating??
gils'ltr
JUST STARTS CUTTING OUT AND THE FAN IS BLOWING HOT AIR NOT PUSHING COOLANT OUT THE OVERFLOW NOTHING ON THE GROUND ETHER
nosocks
QUOTE (gils'ltr @ May 7 2009, 04:07 PM) *
JUST STARTS CUTTING OUT AND THE FAN IS BLOWING HOT AIR NOT PUSHING COOLANT OUT THE OVERFLOW NOTHING ON THE GROUND ETHER



At what throttle position

no more caps...

rivermobster
QUOTE (gils'ltr @ May 7 2009, 04:07 PM) *
JUST STARTS CUTTING OUT AND THE FAN IS BLOWING HOT AIR NOT PUSHING COOLANT OUT THE OVERFLOW NOTHING ON THE GROUND ETHER


IF it starts cutting out when the fan comes on, NOW im think'n you might have a battery/charging system problem! wont take long to figure that out.

bring that thing by the house next weekend. i gotta work sat, and sun is mothers day! unless you can bring it by my work on sat. call me and let me know.
nosocks
I'll be cool and say


Buy a yamaha....
rivermobster
QUOTE (nosocks @ May 8 2009, 11:11 AM) *
I'll be cool and say


Buy a yamaha....



Too slow to catch a cold...and they blow up too much!

laughing.gif
gils'ltr
i got to go down to hemet and pick it up ... it just starts to cut out will riding it when it
gets hot and thanks joe i'll get with you when i have here in town thanks again
gils'ltr
it never ran full power but it just got worse as the weekend progresed ...it stumble's and cough's.... so i just got a tow back to camp on the last nite ride..
oh yeah i replaced the battery no help
1904dunegoon
if u want someone to get your bike running perfect with a pc3 call up daniel @ high desert dyno guy is a god with them
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