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QueenGlamis
Here is the info and the is no bs.gif, she has allergies to what the family landscaped their yard with, and they are going to put her down vs. sending her to the pound. PLEASE PLEASE HELP! kim or I can keep her for a day or two until someone can get her. She is a beautiful dog and is spayed, chipped, great with kids and other dogs. Again this dog is in a FAMILY HOME not the pound, and they are scheduled to put her down instead of sending her to the Pound (which is VERY overcrowed and scary place for a dog that has been with a family since it was 6 weeks old) My heart is breaking for this family, I can't imagine how hard this must be... icon_cry.gif

PLEASE call me or email me (4804951699 or cdixon@e2cc.com) if you can take this dog into your home.

Please don’t criticize these people only contact them if you can REALLY HELP them

Thanks.


- 4 yrs old female, spayed chipped and current.
- Choc lab, Golden retriever mix.
- honey brown coat and golden eyes.
- Just very affectionate, craves the petting and attention
- GREAT with kids ( my 4yr old doesn't just love Honey, she wants to BE Honey, and Honey loves it)
- a companion dog for my 10yr old yellow lab-
- a very good watch dog
- crate trained (sleeps in crate, and also when no one is home)
- house trained and does not get on furniture
- loves to be at our feet, where ever we are
( worst thing is she doesn't like to ride in the car, she gets car sick!)

Comes with her crate and food!

We have had her since she was 6 wks old, she was a birthday gift for my husband. Everything was great until we landscaped the back yard, and now she has skin allergies (scratching and biting herself) and is miserable. We have tried for a year to find a "desert home" for Honey, and no such luck. We are afraid to take her to the pound, since they are so overcrowded and she has allergies, I think they will just put her to sleep. We have decided the best thing is to put her down ourselves, at least we can be with her, and she won't be frightened and lonely and scared to death. It's breaking my heart, Her appointment is Saturday.

Let me know what you think.

Glamis Girl 777
90% of the time a dog has allergies is because of the dog food she is eating. Corn and grain in dog food causes the dogs to have skin allergies. Try changing her dog food to a good quality lamb, or chicken and brown rice. Petsmart has many good choices. (make sure there is no grain, and no meat byproducts) I give my dog Avoderm, as it has avocado in it which helps her skin. Also, and some canola oil to the dog food to help rehydrate her skin...she should stop itching within two weeks.

Is there any chance her owners will give this a try before putting her down?
QueenGlamis
QUOTE (Glamis Girl 777 @ May 1 2009, 11:10 AM) *
90% of the time a dog has allergies is because of the dog food she is eating. Corn and grain in dog food causes the dogs to have skin allergies. Try changing her dog food to a good quality lamb, or chicken and brown rice. Petsmart has many good choices. (make sure there is no grain, and no meat byproducts) I give my dog Avoderm, as it has avocado in it which helps her skin. Also, and some canola oil to the dog food to help rehydrate her skin...she should stop itching within two weeks.

Is there any chance her owners will give this a try before putting her down?



They are positive it is the type of grass or plants in the backyard. The poor girl is miserable...
SCHG


It's nice to see a family taking responsibility for the well being of their dog and not just letting it suffer miserably or abandon it like we've seen in so many of the other posts.

I feel deeply for the family - I have had to make this decision and its heartbreaking - you never recover - but sometimes the right decision is the hardest.

Hopefully a home can be found.

Thoughts and prayers to the family.

Courtni - it's really nice of you to try and help the family. They have a great friend in you.
flashpoint
So re-landscape the yard!
surf and dune
Real easy solution is to rip out the new landscaping. Problem solved. And lets not be so PC about this. They are going to KILL their dog they have raised since a pup for 4 yrs. To say they are "gonna put it down" doesn't do justice to what they are gonna do.
offroadace
QUOTE (flashpoint @ May 1 2009, 11:35 AM) *
So re-landscape the yard!

...ditto...

If the pet matter that much to me, I would do anythign I could to fix the problem with the yard instead of putting the dog down. JMO.
JimandMelissa
QUOTE (surf and dune @ May 1 2009, 11:38 AM) *
Real easy solution is to rip out the new landscaping. Problem solved. And lets not be so PC about this. They are going to KILL their dog they have raised since a pup for 4 yrs. To say they are "gonna put it down" doesn't do justice to what they are gonna do. Sound like a bunch of creeps if you ask me .


Kinda with you on this one. Won't take it to pound because it's cruel but will just kill it so they can keep their potted plants? dunno.gif
Rubberneck
I hate seeing this! I'd take her in a heartbeat if I wasn't out here. My lab is going to need a playmate when I get back.
snowdemon
You can take the dog to a doc to get it all fixed up. There is a allegry clinc for animals in MESA. Had to do it with one of mine..... It is not cheap but worth it.
Kodiak our German Sheppard Rottie mix is allerigc to like 40 things..... No kidding even cats and human dander. Doc told us they have never seen another dog with so many alleries. With some help and shots he got once a week he is better took a bit, but he is happy now. every once and awhile a benadryl for the itch calms it all down.

There are ways around this. IF you want too find them.

Good luck and at least let the dog live with you till a family is found.

It is the least you can do. Give the poor dog some benadryl and let him enjoy.
QueenGlamis
I appreciate everyones comments, and I kind of see the point of those that have thrown this family under the bus. I too would do whatever it took to make my dogs happy, but with out knowing all of the details of anyone's situation I am reseving judgement on these people. They have obviously taken wonderful care of Honey and must love her a lot and it must be ripping their heart out to do this. I also think the option of putting her to sleep with those around her that love her and she is not scared vs. tossing her in the pound (with the overcrowding she probably would be put to sleep there anyways) to live in a frightening place is a very difficult decision and I think it takes alot of guts to think of keeping her calm and loved instead of dropping her off at the pound. So say what you guys will but I see their point. If we would have not just gotten Turbo (our rescue that looks alot like her) recently she would come live with us. If anyone can take her please let me know, thank you...

Jon, can you send me the info on that clinic please? I am going to call the owner in a bit or have Kim do it to see what we can do to help Honey...
snowdemon
QUOTE (QueenGlamis @ May 1 2009, 12:25 PM) *
I appreciate everyones comments, and I kind of see the point of those that have thrown this family under the bus. I too would do whatever it took to make my dogs happy, but with out knowing all of the details of anyone's situation I am reseving judgement on these people. They have obviously taken wonderful care of Honey and must love her a lot and it must be ripping their heart out to do this. I also think the option of putting her to sleep with those around her that love her and she is not scared vs. tossing her in the pound (with the overcrowding she probably would be put to sleep there anyways) to live in a frightening place is a very difficult decision and I think it takes alot of guts to think of keeping her calm and loved instead of dropping her off at the pound. So say what you guys will but I see their point. If we would have not just gotten Turbo (our rescue that looks alot like her) recently she would come live with us. If anyone can take her please let me know, thank you...

Jon, can you send me the info on that clinic please? I am going to call the owner in a bit or have Kim do it to see what we can do to help Honey...



Here ya go Queen Dermatology for Animals Good luck. I hope they decide to help out.
Kelster
Simple....allergy testing and allergy shots dunno.gif

It costs a bit initially, but is actually very common. And yes, I will throw this family under the bus for taking the EASY way out and sending their dog to the pound or to be put to sleep for something that can be taken care of. Even if they decide they can't afford the allergy testing/shots or re-landscape their yard, then they need to be RESPONSIBLE owners and find her a good home. Until that time, they need to keep her, not put her to sleep or to the pound 25no_no_no.gif
Glamis Girl 777
Was just wondering if there was an update on if honey found a new home yet?
adamwn
Putting a healthy 4 year old dog to death just because they can't care for it is TOTAL BS!! And it should be illegal or not allowed, if it even is allowed. People should not have the right to take any healthy dog to a pound and have it killed. Dogs picked up off the street are given a chance to be adopted, so why not this dog?
Will pounds really kill a healthy young dog at the owners request? Or will they say no and just take it in and give it the same deal as a stray?
The more I think about it the less I beleive they would just kill for the hell of it. Think about it, if a owner kills his healthy dog they would be appearing before a judge in hand cuffs for felony animal cruelty. But if the owner has a city worker kill the dog it's fine? I really don't think so. Anyone know for sure?
Also haven't these people heard of "no kill shelters"?
Shelvis
Exactly what type of grass and plants did they put in??? Someone adopting her should know specifically what she is allergic too. What if they too have the same plants and grasses in there yard?!
SCHG
QUOTE (adamwn @ May 5 2009, 12:51 AM) *
Putting a healthy 4 year old dog to death just because they can't care for it is TOTAL BS!! And it should be illegal or not allowed, if it even is allowed. People should not have the right to take any healthy dog to a pound and have it killed. Dogs picked up off the street are given a chance to be adopted, so why not this dog?
Will pounds really kill a healthy young dog at the owners request? Or will they say no and just take it in and give it the same deal as a stray?
The more I think about it the less I beleive they would just kill for the hell of it. Think about it, if a owner kills his healthy dog they would be appearing before a judge in hand cuffs for felony animal cruelty. But if the owner has a city worker kill the dog it's fine? I really don't think so. Anyone know for sure?
Also haven't these people heard of "no kill shelters"?



So its better for the dog to suffer emotional trauma than to go to "sleep"? Let's see - torture the dog emotionally - put the dog to sleep....hmmm....that makes a lot of sense.

Will a vet or an organization put a dog down because the owner asks - yes they will. I had to put my two and a half year old beagle to sleep. I went to the vet, asked them to put her down and they did. It was the worst thing Ive EVER had to do.

Euthanasia is a very HUMANE way of dealing with animals. I wish that all the owners of the dogs I see running around lose and running in and out of traffic would have put their dogs down - then I wouldn't be seeing so many smashed and dead on the road.

People - let's not forget that they are animals...they aren't children - we love them yes - there's no doubt - but they are animals.

I don't know that we can pass judgement on these people without knowing all the facts involved.

Should they try the allergist first - yes - I know I would - but in this economy - who knows if they have the money. I know what the orthopeadic vet costs for my boxers broken leg and it wasn't pretty - 8 weeks of casts and specialized vets in addition to her regular vet - we were lucky - we had the money but in this economy - who knows if these people have the money.

I think Courtney should be applauded for trying to help and these people need to be cut some slack.

Until anyone of us has walked a mile in their shoes in this particular situation - we have no right to pass judgement.

I'm sorry I can't take her Courtney!
Lepimpster
Shame on anyone that puts down a totally healthy dog. To just put a dog down after 4 yrs of being apart of your life is rediculous. Our dog has allergies, we have to spend big bucks on special dog food for him. We do what is necessary. My wife is allergic to dogs. While pregnant her allergies shot thru the roof. Had all these breathing problems. We sent him up to my parents for the rest of the pregnancy. We then brought him home after we had the kid. Does she still have allergies to the dog? YES. But we do what we can to get thru it. That is my sons best friend and we could never see getting rid of that dog. It amazes me how people are so quick to get rid of things that cause trouble than finding solutions to the problem. The family needs to redo the yard back to where the dog can handle it. Just finding new owners to make it justifiable to the families feelings is BS. Maybe they should consider on letting the dog stay in the house. These people need to GROW UP!!!!!!
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MustMoto
QUOTE (SCHG @ May 5 2009, 01:00 PM) *
QUOTE (adamwn @ May 5 2009, 12:51 AM) *
Putting a healthy 4 year old dog to death just because they can't care for it is TOTAL BS!! And it should be illegal or not allowed, if it even is allowed. People should not have the right to take any healthy dog to a pound and have it killed. Dogs picked up off the street are given a chance to be adopted, so why not this dog?
Will pounds really kill a healthy young dog at the owners request? Or will they say no and just take it in and give it the same deal as a stray?
The more I think about it the less I beleive they would just kill for the hell of it. Think about it, if a owner kills his healthy dog they would be appearing before a judge in hand cuffs for felony animal cruelty. But if the owner has a city worker kill the dog it's fine? I really don't think so. Anyone know for sure?
Also haven't these people heard of "no kill shelters"?



who knows if they have the money.


They had the money to landscape the backyard...

I'm sorry but putting the dog to sleep because you landscaped your yard is not acceptable in my book. I'd rip every last plant out of my yard (no matter how much I spent), before I'd put my dog to sleep.

You make a decision to provide a home and care for an animal when you bring it home.

I'm sorry I can't make room for her. I forwarded this link to several people.
surf and dune
QUOTE (SCHG @ May 5 2009, 01:00 PM) *
QUOTE (adamwn @ May 5 2009, 12:51 AM) *
Putting a healthy 4 year old dog to death just because they can't care for it is TOTAL BS!! And it should be illegal or not allowed, if it even is allowed. People should not have the right to take any healthy dog to a pound and have it killed. Dogs picked up off the street are given a chance to be adopted, so why not this dog?
Will pounds really kill a healthy young dog at the owners request? Or will they say no and just take it in and give it the same deal as a stray?
The more I think about it the less I beleive they would just kill for the hell of it. Think about it, if a owner kills his healthy dog they would be appearing before a judge in hand cuffs for felony animal cruelty. But if the owner has a city worker kill the dog it's fine? I really don't think so. Anyone know for sure?
Also haven't these people heard of "no kill shelters"?



So its better for the dog to suffer emotional trauma than to go to "sleep"? Let's see - torture the dog emotionally - put the dog to sleep....hmmm....that makes a lot of sense.

Will a vet or an organization put a dog down because the owner asks - yes they will. I had to put my two and a half year old beagle to sleep. I went to the vet, asked them to put her down and they did. It was the worst thing Ive EVER had to do.

Euthanasia is a very HUMANE way of dealing with animals. I wish that all the owners of the dogs I see running around lose and running in and out of traffic would have put their dogs down - then I wouldn't be seeing so many smashed and dead on the road.

People - let's not forget that they are animals...they aren't children - we love them yes - there's no doubt - but they are animals.

I don't know that we can pass judgement on these people without knowing all the facts involved.

Should they try the allergist first - yes - I know I would - but in this economy - who knows if they have the money. I know what the orthopeadic vet costs for my boxers broken leg and it wasn't pretty - 8 weeks of casts and specialized vets in addition to her regular vet - we were lucky - we had the money but in this economy - who knows if these people have the money.

I think Courtney should be applauded for trying to help and these people need to be cut some slack.

Until anyone of us has walked a mile in their shoes in this particular situation - we have no right to pass judgement.

I'm sorry I can't take her Courtney!



You have got to be effin kidding me! Kill the dog instead of either spending a reasonable amount of time to find another home for it, or giving it a fighting chance at the pound? I hope to h--l you didn't kill your 2 year old beagle for similar reasons. And $$ shouldn't be the deciding factor either since they somehow had the cash to landscape in the first place. Also, one last time, if your pet is sick, old, suffering etc., sometimes you have to make that hard decision to "put it down", I have had to make that decision myself more than once. But when you take a perfectly healthy, happy pet, and decide its just not convienent to have anymore( or you don't want it to suffer emotional trauma) and end its life, you are killing it. Sorry, I know the other term might make you feel better but it is what it is. BTW. I have two dogs myself, both are about 10 yrs old and I got them both from the pound. They seem to have gotten over all of that emotional trauma they went through a long time ago.
Courtney, I applaud you for trying to help out and I'm not directing any of my comments toward you , in fact I edited my first post cause I was a bit out of line with one of my comments about your freinds. Good luck.
QueenGlamis
Thanks Kristen! I am not sure if Honey is still available, and I am glad that I made the effort.

I get many, MANY emails with animals that available for adoptions/rescues/need homes. And to be honest I don't give a flipping rat's arse about their families that the dogs belong to, all I care about is for what ever reason the people can't keep them and I am trying to save the DOGS and match them to a loving and caring home. I am glad that so many are glad to toss the people that have these dogs under the bus, but sometimes people have to make hard choices and we here know only a sliver of the story.

Sometimes I am hesitant to post them here because of the judemental way people seem to focus MORE on the old owners than the fact that I am trying to be a "matchmaker" of sorts to help these dogs get new homes. I have a few more that I got today, but from now on I will just put "Please help" instead of the dog's "story".

Dune Marshall
Please let me know what kind of grass they have.
I am looking for a good reason to get rid of my wifes yellow Lab.
Damn Dog destroyed my back yard ! wife.gif
QueenGlamis
Also, I love my dogs too, and I would do everything within my power to make whatever adjustments I needed to do to make them healthy and happy.

I would NOT ever take either one to the Pound if something crazy came up and I had to get rid of them because the Pound is VERY overcrowded, understaffed, underbudgeted and scary place for dogs, especially those that have been in a home all of their lives. Many dogs are deemed "agressive" just because they are scared, and almost always people that go there to adopt will take a puppy or dog that is 6 months or younger versus a dog that is older. So YES, the Pound will kill them after a short time. And YES there are no-kill organizations out there, but they too are overcrowded non-profits and can't take in every dog, actually they are so full and under funded that they have to turn pets away all of the time. I know I work at them all of the time! So what is an owner that may have tried a lot of things, or may be on the verge of foreclosure, or that could afford a nice yard 6 months a go but can't afford vet bills due to being laid off, or ... who knows. We certianly don't.
SD Surfer
Man that must be some REALLY nice landscaping!

That sucks! No I haven't "walked a mile in their shoes" & no I don't know all the details (other than the one where they're going to have their dog
PUT TO DEATH so they can keep the freakin' plants in the yard!) and yes I'm passing judgement, that sucks!

Shame on them!

Edited to say Queen, way to step up and try to help the dog.

If we didn't have so many animals already I'd love to give her a happy home.
Toy Collector
The owners of the dog should be put to sleep.

SCHG
QUOTE (surf and dune @ May 5 2009, 01:51 PM) *
QUOTE (SCHG @ May 5 2009, 01:00 PM) *
QUOTE (adamwn @ May 5 2009, 12:51 AM) *
Putting a healthy 4 year old dog to death just because they can't care for it is TOTAL BS!! And it should be illegal or not allowed, if it even is allowed. People should not have the right to take any healthy dog to a pound and have it killed. Dogs picked up off the street are given a chance to be adopted, so why not this dog?
Will pounds really kill a healthy young dog at the owners request? Or will they say no and just take it in and give it the same deal as a stray?
The more I think about it the less I beleive they would just kill for the hell of it. Think about it, if a owner kills his healthy dog they would be appearing before a judge in hand cuffs for felony animal cruelty. But if the owner has a city worker kill the dog it's fine? I really don't think so. Anyone know for sure?
Also haven't these people heard of "no kill shelters"?



So its better for the dog to suffer emotional trauma than to go to "sleep"? Let's see - torture the dog emotionally - put the dog to sleep....hmmm....that makes a lot of sense.

Will a vet or an organization put a dog down because the owner asks - yes they will. I had to put my two and a half year old beagle to sleep. I went to the vet, asked them to put her down and they did. It was the worst thing Ive EVER had to do.

Euthanasia is a very HUMANE way of dealing with animals. I wish that all the owners of the dogs I see running around lose and running in and out of traffic would have put their dogs down - then I wouldn't be seeing so many smashed and dead on the road.

People - let's not forget that they are animals...they aren't children - we love them yes - there's no doubt - but they are animals.

I don't know that we can pass judgement on these people without knowing all the facts involved.

Should they try the allergist first - yes - I know I would - but in this economy - who knows if they have the money. I know what the orthopeadic vet costs for my boxers broken leg and it wasn't pretty - 8 weeks of casts and specialized vets in addition to her regular vet - we were lucky - we had the money but in this economy - who knows if these people have the money.

I think Courtney should be applauded for trying to help and these people need to be cut some slack.

Until anyone of us has walked a mile in their shoes in this particular situation - we have no right to pass judgement.

I'm sorry I can't take her Courtney!



You have got to be effin kidding me! Kill the dog instead of either spending a reasonable amount of time to find another home for it, or giving it a fighting chance at the pound? I hope to h--l you didn't kill your 2 year old beagle for similar reasons. And $$ shouldn't be the deciding factor either since they somehow had the cash to landscape in the first place. Also, one last time, if your pet is sick, old, suffering etc., sometimes you have to make that hard decision to "put it down", I have had to make that decision myself more than once. But when you take a perfectly healthy, happy pet, and decide its just not convienent to have anymore( or you don't want it to suffer emotional trauma) and end its life, you are killing it. Sorry, I know the other term might make you feel better but it is what it is. BTW. I have two dogs myself, both are about 10 yrs old and I got them both from the pound. They seem to have gotten over all of that emotional trauma they went through a long time ago.
Courtney, I applaud you for trying to help out and I'm not directing any of my comments toward you , in fact I edited my first post cause I was a bit out of line with one of my comments about your freinds. Good luck.


This is exactly the kind of judgement passing that I was talking about. No one on this board with the exception of Courtney knows two I eat poos about what these people and their dog are going through.

My ONLY point is that there are times and extenuating circumstances wherein it is more HUMANE to put the dog down than to allow it to suffer.

Obviously they are trying to find a suitable home for the dog since that's why Courtney posted this. The other obvious fact is that if the dog was "happy and healthy" in their home they wouldn't be doing this.

And as for your comment about my beagle - you definitely don't know two I eat poos about that I'm certainly not going to justify myself to you or anyone else about it. I can guarantee - had she attacked your child - you would feel differently.
surf and dune
QUOTE (SCHG @ May 5 2009, 04:38 PM) *
QUOTE (surf and dune @ May 5 2009, 01:51 PM) *
QUOTE (SCHG @ May 5 2009, 01:00 PM) *
QUOTE (adamwn @ May 5 2009, 12:51 AM) *
Putting a healthy 4 year old dog to death just because they can't care for it is TOTAL BS!! And it should be illegal or not allowed, if it even is allowed. People should not have the right to take any healthy dog to a pound and have it killed. Dogs picked up off the street are given a chance to be adopted, so why not this dog?
Will pounds really kill a healthy young dog at the owners request? Or will they say no and just take it in and give it the same deal as a stray?
The more I think about it the less I beleive they would just kill for the hell of it. Think about it, if a owner kills his healthy dog they would be appearing before a judge in hand cuffs for felony animal cruelty. But if the owner has a city worker kill the dog it's fine? I really don't think so. Anyone know for sure?
Also haven't these people heard of "no kill shelters"?



So its better for the dog to suffer emotional trauma than to go to "sleep"? Let's see - torture the dog emotionally - put the dog to sleep....hmmm....that makes a lot of sense.

Will a vet or an organization put a dog down because the owner asks - yes they will. I had to put my two and a half year old beagle to sleep. I went to the vet, asked them to put her down and they did. It was the worst thing Ive EVER had to do.

Euthanasia is a very HUMANE way of dealing with animals. I wish that all the owners of the dogs I see running around lose and running in and out of traffic would have put their dogs down - then I wouldn't be seeing so many smashed and dead on the road.

People - let's not forget that they are animals...they aren't children - we love them yes - there's no doubt - but they are animals.

I don't know that we can pass judgement on these people without knowing all the facts involved.

Should they try the allergist first - yes - I know I would - but in this economy - who knows if they have the money. I know what the orthopeadic vet costs for my boxers broken leg and it wasn't pretty - 8 weeks of casts and specialized vets in addition to her regular vet - we were lucky - we had the money but in this economy - who knows if these people have the money.

I think Courtney should be applauded for trying to help and these people need to be cut some slack.

Until anyone of us has walked a mile in their shoes in this particular situation - we have no right to pass judgement.

I'm sorry I can't take her Courtney!



You have got to be effin kidding me! Kill the dog instead of either spending a reasonable amount of time to find another home for it, or giving it a fighting chance at the pound? I hope to h--l you didn't kill your 2 year old beagle for similar reasons. And $ shouldn't be the deciding factor either since they somehow had the cash to landscape in the first place. Also, one last time, if your pet is sick, old, suffering etc., sometimes you have to make that hard decision to "put it down", I have had to make that decision myself more than once. But when you take a perfectly healthy, happy pet, and decide its just not convienent to have anymore( or you don't want it to suffer emotional trauma) and end its life, you are killing it. Sorry, I know the other term might make you feel better but it is what it is. BTW. I have two dogs myself, both are about 10 yrs old and I got them both from the pound. They seem to have gotten over all of that emotional trauma they went through a long time ago.
Courtney, I applaud you for trying to help out and I'm not directing any of my comments toward you , in fact I edited my first post cause I was a bit out of line with one of my comments about your freinds. Good luck.


This is exactly the kind of judgement passing that I was talking about. No one on this board with the exception of Courtney knows two I eat poos about what these people and their dog are going through.

My ONLY point is that there are times and extenuating circumstances wherein it is more HUMANE to put the dog down than to allow it to suffer.

Obviously they are trying to find a suitable home for the dog since that's why Courtney posted this. The other obvious fact is that if the dog was "happy and healthy" in their home they wouldn't be doing this.

And as for your comment about my beagle - you definitely don't know two I eat poos about that I'm certainly not going to justify myself to you or anyone else about it. I can guarantee - had she attacked your child - you would feel differently.


I'm glad there are people like Courtney out there to help out in these types of situations, and your right, there are situations that do warrant putting an animal down (like the one you suggest your dog did) but to avoid emotional trauma as you put it isn't one of them. Again, if the previous owners of my dogs felt the way you do, I never would of had the chance to save them. I'm sorry, I just don't get your kind of logic, and the facts as told to us really struck a nerve with me. As far as passing judgement, we do it every day. I'm not sure of your point, but either way I'm done here. Good luck Courtney.
adamwn
Why is death better than going to the pound for a while and having a very good chance of being adopted? We've seen the picture, that dog would be adopted in a matter of days, it's very young and a good looking dog. Im sure if the dog could talk she would take being scared and confused for awhile........ over dead.
fng2moto
I agree, no one on the board knows what these people or the dog are going through, but what we do know is...

They got new landscaping, the dog has allergies to something in the landscaping, and rather than help the dog with the allergies, they'd take it to the pound to put it down.

Eff them

I also agree that, there are times and extenuating circumstances wherein it is more HUMANE to put the dog down than to allow it to suffer.

This is not that time, help the dog with the allergies or get rid of your landscaping.

Eff them

And if they ended up putting the dog down,

Double eff them

McPenis page for sure
Kbach
QUOTE (Dune Marshall @ May 5 2009, 02:06 PM) *
Please let me know what kind of grass they have.
I am looking for a good reason to get rid of my wifes yellow Lab.
Damn Dog destroyed my back yard ! wife.gif



That's got to be the lowest thing I've ever heard on here. How could you live with yourself saying something like that???




On another note....if you get any info on the landscaping, can you privately pass it on to me?? My wife's dog decided to ruin my yard as well, maybe if she was allergic to it she'd stay off of it and not F it up!!!!!!


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SD Surfer
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QUOTE (adamwn @ May 5 2009, 12:51 AM) *
Putting a healthy 4 year old dog to death just because they can't care for it is TOTAL BS!! And it should be illegal or not allowed, if it even is allowed. People should not have the right to take any healthy dog to a pound and have it killed. Dogs picked up off the street are given a chance to be adopted, so why not this dog?
Will pounds really kill a healthy young dog at the owners request? Or will they say no and just take it in and give it the same deal as a stray?
The more I think about it the less I beleive they would just kill for the hell of it. Think about it, if a owner kills his healthy dog they would be appearing before a judge in hand cuffs for felony animal cruelty. But if the owner has a city worker kill the dog it's fine? I really don't think so. Anyone know for sure?
Also haven't these people heard of "no kill shelters"?



So its better for the dog to suffer emotional trauma than to go to "sleep"? Let's see - torture the dog emotionally - put the dog to sleep....hmmm....that makes a lot of sense.

Will a vet or an organization put a dog down because the owner asks - yes they will. I had to put my two and a half year old beagle to sleep. I went to the vet, asked them to put her down and they did. It was the worst thing Ive EVER had to do.

Euthanasia is a very HUMANE way of dealing with animals. I wish that all the owners of the dogs I see running around lose and running in and out of traffic would have put their dogs down - then I wouldn't be seeing so many smashed and dead on the road.

People - let's not forget that they are animals...they aren't children - we love them yes - there's no doubt - but they are animals.

I don't know that we can pass judgement on these people without knowing all the facts involved.

Should they try the allergist first - yes - I know I would - but in this economy - who knows if they have the money. I know what the orthopeadic vet costs for my boxers broken leg and it wasn't pretty - 8 weeks of casts and specialized vets in addition to her regular vet - we were lucky - we had the money but in this economy - who knows if these people have the money.

I think Courtney should be applauded for trying to help and these people need to be cut some slack.

Until anyone of us has walked a mile in their shoes in this particular situation - we have no right to pass judgement.

I'm sorry I can't take her Courtney!



You have got to be effin kidding me! Kill the dog instead of either spending a reasonable amount of time to find another home for it, or giving it a fighting chance at the pound? I hope to h--l you didn't kill your 2 year old beagle for similar reasons. And $$ shouldn't be the deciding factor either since they somehow had the cash to landscape in the first place. Also, one last time, if your pet is sick, old, suffering etc., sometimes you have to make that hard decision to "put it down", I have had to make that decision myself more than once. But when you take a perfectly healthy, happy pet, and decide its just not convienent to have anymore( or you don't want it to suffer emotional trauma) and end its life, you are killing it. Sorry, I know the other term might make you feel better but it is what it is. BTW. I have two dogs myself, both are about 10 yrs old and I got them both from the pound. They seem to have gotten over all of that emotional trauma they went through a long time ago.
Courtney, I applaud you for trying to help out and I'm not directing any of my comments toward you , in fact I edited my first post cause I was a bit out of line with one of my comments about your freinds. Good luck.


This is exactly the kind of judgement passing that I was talking about. No one on this board with the exception of Courtney knows two I eat poos about what these people and their dog are going through.

My ONLY point is that there are times and extenuating circumstances wherein it is more HUMANE to put the dog down than to allow it to suffer.

Obviously they are trying to find a suitable home for the dog since that's why Courtney posted this. The other obvious fact is that if the dog was "happy and healthy" in their home they wouldn't be doing this.

And as for your comment about my beagle - you definitely don't know two I eat poos about that I'm certainly not going to justify myself to you or anyone else about it. I can guarantee - had she attacked your child - you would feel differently.



Did you even read the original post?! (See statements in red)

"EVERYTHING was GREAT until we LANDSCAPED the back yard"

"WORST THING is she doesn't like to ride in the car."

That sounds like a pretty happy healthy dog to me, and it sounds like Honey has a lot of love to give.

By the way, landscaping does not count as "extenuating circumstances wherein it is more HUMANE to put the dog down than to allow it to suffer."

Cancer, yes. Chronic pain from say, hip displacia, yes. A FREAKING HOUSE PLANT, hell no!

EFF them, EFF them, EFF them.

- 4 yrs old female, spayed chipped and current.
- Choc lab, Golden retriever mix.
- honey brown coat and golden eyes.
- Just very affectionate, craves the petting and attention
- GREAT with kids ( my 4yr old doesn't just love Honey, she wants to BE Honey, and Honey loves it)
- a companion dog for my 10yr old yellow lab-
- a very good watch dog
- crate trained (sleeps in crate, and also when no one is home)
- house trained and does not get on furniture
- loves to be at our feet, where ever we are
( worst thing is she doesn't like to ride in the car, she gets car sick!)

Comes with her crate and food!

We have had her since she was 6 wks old, she was a birthday gift for my husband. Everything was great until we landscaped the back yard, and now she has skin allergies (scratching and biting herself) and is miserable. We have tried for a year to find a "desert home" for Honey, and no such luck. We are afraid to take her to the pound, since they are so overcrowded and she has allergies, I think they will just put her to sleep. We have decided the best thing is to put her down ourselves, at least we can be with her, and she won't be frightened and lonely and scared to death. It's breaking my heart, Her appointment is Saturday.

Let me know what you think.
ProBaja
QUOTE (whipkiller @ May 6 2009, 08:35 AM) *
- honey brown coat and golden eyes.
- Just very affectionate, craves the petting and attention
- GREAT with kids
- loves to be at our feet, where ever we are


If only I could find a girl like this..........
SD Surfer
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QUOTE (whipkiller @ May 6 2009, 08:35 AM) *
- honey brown coat and golden eyes.
- Just very affectionate, craves the petting and attention
- GREAT with kids
- loves to be at our feet, where ever we are


If only I could find a girl like this..........


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SCHG
Whip - I read the post - and you're right - Honey is all of those things - UNTIL her allergies kicked in.

So she is no longer, in her current environment, that kind of dog. Can she go back to being that in the right kind of environment - I'm sure she can.

The focus in this thread is that these people are talking about putting the dog down and what horrible people they are when the focus should be about finding a home for this dog.

Every person here who is so completely abhorrent to the idea of them putting her down should be stepping up to foster this dog then.

No one has stepped up to foster - at least not publicly in the thread. Hopefully someone has privately but I can't say - I dont' know.

My only point is that people in this thread are so quick to judge and condemn these people and spout rhetoric from their soap boxes but none of them are willing to stand up and ACT on what their spouting.

Otherwise, who are we to pass judgement on people of whom we know very little about or their situation.

Why not use our collective energies here with such a great group of people to find a foster home if the option is so unthinkable?

I can't foster this dog or I would. I will donate a 40lb bag of dog food to whomever steps up and fosters this dog.
mellen_mpz
something sure stinks to high heaven. People keep saying "you dont know their financial situation" Well, they just put in NEW LANDSCAPING. Thats the last thing I would do if I was hurting for $$$$. They clearly have the means to figure out a better solution than to even think about killing their dog. They should be ashamed and I hope they never get another pet.
SCHG
Courtney - My offer stands - you have my cell and know how to find me if you or whomever fosters her wants to take me up on my offer for the food.

QueenGlamis
Thanks Kristen. hug.gif

I have not contacted the owner because through all the bs.gif no one has offered to give her a temp or permanent home. dunno.gif

I would have probably adopted her if we hadn't just gotten a new puppy ourselves.

I will still continue to post dogs that really need a human helping hand, forever homes and those that are on the kill list at the pound and get one last shot (that is Kim *party on garth* and I working w/various rescue orgs in the Phoenix area) that really usually have 24 hours or less to live. But I will no longer put on here any of the dogs "personal" history like I did in this thread. I will put any behavior issues etc but never again the dog's reason for needing adoption. It is amazing to me that people stand here finger pointing at the owners but no one is able to be part of the solution. dunno.gif

If anyone is ever interested in adopting any of the dogs Kim or I post please email us ASAP and we will help coordinate.

Thank you!


snowdemon
QUOTE (QueenGlamis @ May 6 2009, 12:31 PM) *
Thanks Kristen. hug.gif

I have not contacted the owner because through all the bs.gif no one has offered to give her a temp or permanent home. dunno.gif

I would have probably adopted her if we hadn't just gotten a new puppy ourselves.

I will still continue to post dogs that really need a human helping hand, forever homes and those that are on the kill list at the pound and get one last shot (that is Kim *party on garth* and I working w/various rescue orgs in the Phoenix area) that really usually have 24 hours or less to live. But I will no longer put on here any of the dogs "personal" history like I did in this thread. I will put any behavior issues etc but never again the dog's reason for needing adoption. It is amazing to me that people stand here finger pointing at the owners but no one is able to be part of the solution. dunno.gif

If anyone is ever interested in adopting any of the dogs Kim or I post please email us ASAP and we will help coordinate.

Thank you!


Were you able to pass on the dematology info to the owners? I hope they decided to go that route.
fng2moto
I"m sorry Cortni, no offense to you, you're trying to do the right thing but, "part of the solution" ? You wanting someone to be part of the solution, I get that but how about this, part of the solution is the owners get their heads out of their a sses and get rid of the landscaping?

AND... if they get another dog that DOESN"T have allergies after they get rid of this one... nevermind
SCHG
QUOTE (QueenGlamis @ May 6 2009, 12:31 PM) *
Thanks Kristen. hug.gif

I have not contacted the owner because through all the bs.gif no one has offered to give her a temp or permanent home. dunno.gif

I would have probably adopted her if we hadn't just gotten a new puppy ourselves.

I will still continue to post dogs that really need a human helping hand, forever homes and those that are on the kill list at the pound and get one last shot (that is Kim *party on garth* and I working w/various rescue orgs in the Phoenix area) that really usually have 24 hours or less to live. But I will no longer put on here any of the dogs "personal" history like I did in this thread. I will put any behavior issues etc but never again the dog's reason for needing adoption. It is amazing to me that people stand here finger pointing at the owners but no one is able to be part of the solution. dunno.gif

If anyone is ever interested in adopting any of the dogs Kim or I post please email us ASAP and we will help coordinate.

Thank you!


I can't help with fostering but if a bag of dog food is needed in the future - let me know - I will help where I can.

I do appreciate everything you are trying to do.


adamwn
Contact them and ask if they killed her yet. I think they did, original post said they had an appointment on sat.

glamisqueen why are you taking this personally? Were not bashing you. You don't need to hide info about a dog's back story, don't be ridiculous.


surf and dune
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Contact them and ask if they killed her yet. I think they did, original post said they had an appointment on sat.

glamisqueen why are you taking this personally? Were not bashing you. You don't need to hide info about a dog's back story, don't be ridiculous.



I would say stories like this one may actually help you find homes.
Punisher550
this is insane, people never cease to amaze
QueenGlamis
QUOTE (adamwn @ May 7 2009, 01:00 AM) *
Contact them and ask if they killed her yet. I think they did, original post said they had an appointment on sat.

glamisqueen why are you taking this personally? Were not bashing you. You don't need to hide info about a dog's back story, don't be ridiculous.



I am not worried about any bashing at all, I have been around the block long enough here that not too much phases me anymore. laughing.gif

I just think that the "story" took a life of it's own and totally distracted from the REAL reason of this thread, that this poor girl needed a home, even if just a temp home, ASAP. most people were too busy throwing the owners under the bus. Which they may or may not deserve...

Any others I post here I will for sure include any health or behavior issues but the reason that the people are giving them away, forget it. You know I got a great puppy a few weeks ago because the people that got him initially had 3 small kids and as he got older they could not keep him off the kids (playing). One of the kids got terrified of him and so they kept him locked in the kitchen. Did I think "OMG WHAT HORRBILE PEOPLE! DIDN'T THEY REALIZE THAT THIS DOG IS GOING TO BE A BIG LAB THAT WILL PLOW OVER THEIR KIDS IF THEY LET HIM GET AWAY WITH IT? I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW IRRESPONSIBLE THEY ARE!" No, I saw a puppy that needed a forever home and some guidence. I saw a chance to give him a good life and teach him some manners. So I brought him home and he is a changed 4 1/2 month old pup that has fit into our "pack".

So thank you again Kristen, I will holla if we have the need. If not for an individual, I have a list of several very worthy, deserving and excellent no-kill non-profit shelters that would love any donations! Time, money or pet supplies are ALWAYS appreciated!
surf and dune
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QUOTE (adamwn @ May 7 2009, 01:00 AM) *
Contact them and ask if they killed her yet. I think they did, original post said they had an appointment on sat.

glamisqueen why are you taking this personally? Were not bashing you. You don't need to hide info about a dog's back story, don't be ridiculous.



I would say stories like this one may actually help you find homes.



You may not agree, but stories like the one you told will give the dog much more attention than if you just took a picture and a brief description. If you hadn't posted this story the way you did, my guess is that you would of gotten maybe 2 responses and the dog would have been forgotten. Instead, look at how much exposure you gave the dog. In fact, I would say you would be doing the dogs a real disservice if you didn't give the backround as you did. Again, keep up the good work.
SCHG
QUOTE (QueenGlamis @ May 7 2009, 08:23 AM) *
I will holla if we have the need. If not for an individual, I have a list of several very worthy, deserving and excellent no-kill non-profit shelters that would love any donations! Time, money or pet supplies are ALWAYS appreciated!


Send them to me - I will see what Titus and I can do. 25biggrinangela.gif
Chris C.
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Please let me know what kind of grass they have.
I am looking for a good reason to get rid of my wifes yellow Lab.
Damn Dog destroyed my back yard ! wife.gif



There is not much that is going to save your grass. Some of the products that they sell give the dogs kidney stones, so I was told by the vet to stay away.

I planted St Augustine Grass in the Back yard, not the prettiest grass, but it held up to ur 110 Lb. Golden Retriever, until he passed on.

Tiff green (Putting Green grass) also holds up well, but you need a front blade mower for that.

fng2moto
Cortni, you know I love ya but, you still say

"throwing the owners under the bus. Which they may or may not deserve..."

They deserve it.

As I said, you know I have nothing but love for ya.. hug.gif
Shelvis
so is the dog still alive and does it still need a home and did anyone ever find out EXACTLY what type of plants and grass she is allergic to???

No one can think about adopting her if they do not understand the full scope of her allergies!!!

SPR-in-Tmec
Any updates on this dog? I am tempted, but the dog is in AZ?
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