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RumpityRump
I'm looking for some pictures of some tall / lifted trucks towing some 5th wheel trailers.....like 8" or 10" or 12" lifts on their trucks.
I know I know.....all the negative stuff....but I would be thankful if anyone has pictures of them to post.
I'm trying to determine at what lift height is too much.
I think 12" on the truck with 38" tires is max but......each set up is gonna be different,Thanks,Robert.
Geo in a K5
i wanna see this too........ ive seen some crazy cool looking setups going down to road to G
ojedashowerpans
9" Lift, W/37" tires.....39 WW trailer. Cool thing is I can camp anywhere in the sand........

YFZ909
nice setup
dieselfumes
8" lift, 37's on 22's Towing the CL40. You dont want to go more than 8".

If you lift it, you will spend a few thousand bucks bringing the power band back to stock.

* Flip Axles on trailer
* regear axle(front and back)
* traction bars
* Add bigger brakes(pre 2007 trucks)

I added triple disk converter, oversized pan to trans
Get some good gauges(pre 2007)

If you have the cash, and want a better look, it can be done with the right price.
You really dont need it if you have a newer truck, this way when something breaks its under warranty, Mines a 2003.


MQUnlimited
I didnt think you could tow a fiver with a lift that big. i have a 6 inch lift and flipped axles on mine and the rear tires are showing some nasty wear patterns.
sin cal sd
Our nieghbor has 12" and pulls a WW tt. Looks good but lots of stress going down the road.
HELLRAISER
QUOTE (dieselfumes @ May 16 2009, 08:43 PM) *
8" lift, 37's on 22's Towing the CL40. You dont want to go more than 8".

If you lift it, you will spend a few thousand bucks bringing the power band back to stock.

* Flip Axles on trailer
* regear axle(front and back)
* traction bars
* Add bigger brakes(pre 2007 trucks)

I added triple disk converter, oversized pan to trans
Get some good gauges(pre 2007)

If you have the cash, and want a better look, it can be done with the right price.
You really dont need it if you have a newer truck, this way when something breaks its under warranty, Mines a 2003.


this is pretty much what i run,but i added airbags,never any issues,not to highjack this thread but since we are on this subject,how high can you go with a cab over camper? 10inch?

Geo in a K5
can someone explain what u mean by flip the trailer axles? what are the consequences of doing this?
Dune Carver
Higher center of gravity
More wind drag
Less clearance going under structures, to name a few
big_daddy_jp
Quad1100 you have got to be kidding me! The reason axles are flipped is because if your truck is jacked up it wont fit under to hook up and if it does the trailer will not travel level it will be front high wich is bad for towing. Best if you order trailer with axles flipped cause then it comes with an extra step to get in!
saychz316
QUOTE (Geo in a K5 @ May 24 2009, 02:43 PM) *
can someone explain what u mean by flip the trailer axles? what are the consequences of doing this?


same principle lifting the trailer, as in lowering a full size truck. moving axle to other side of springs.

its basically putting the leaf springs on the other side of the axle. warriors came with axles on top of leaf spring. when you flip them, you simply move the axle under the leaf, instead of it being on top. gives the trailer about 4" of lift if i remember right. had to do it on my trailer. if you dont do this on a truck that is lifted, your fifth wheel will be nose high, and tail dragging. this is bad, as it will wear tires out on rear axles, give improper weight distribution, causes poor handling trailer, and will not give you a proper bedrail to overhang clearance on the trailer, resulting in your truck smacking the over hang in a large dip, bump, driveway, etc. when towing a fiver, aswith any trailer, you want it level.

consequences are increased ride height, more wind drag, center of gravity higher, so a little less stability, but not much in a fiver. when you start putting lift kits on trailers to get them way jacked up to hook up to a truck that has a 12"+ lift, your just getting stupid then. my friend has a raptor toyhauler that is 14' 3" tall. way illegal, and he has to pay very close attention to where he is going, or he will rip the ac unit off it.
RumpityRump
14'1" to the top of the ac. 8" lift-37" tires-20" rims.....TOWS VERY STABLE !!!! no matter want anyone says...drives like a locomotive-straight and steady. Ask anyone who has driven in it. It has 195 gallons of fresh water (3 x 65) also on the bottom of it.

AXLES flipped = 7 1/4" lift on the 5th wheel.

Now....the reason for this topic.........I was wondering how many trucks with lifts out there, 10 and 12" lifts and what combos they are running (37-40" tires).

P.S. This is one of the TALLEST 5th wheel trailers made...interior 107 3/4" floor to ceiling.
Ocotillo Boy
QUOTE (RumpityRump @ May 25 2009, 10:59 AM) *
14'1" to the top of the ac. 8" lift-37" tires-20" rims.....TOWS VERY STABLE !!!! no matter want anyone says...drives like a locomotive-straight and steady. Ask anyone who has driven in it. It has 195 gallons of fresh water (3 x 65) also on the bottom of it.
AXLES flipped = 7 1/4" lift on the 5th wheel.

Now....the reason for this topic.........I was wondering how many trucks with lifts out there, 10 and 12" lifts and what combos they are running (37-40" tires).

Just some info for ya cause I'm a Rigger by trade.....

Cali legal height laws......

13'6" PERMANENT

14' TEMPORARY

ANYTHING over 14' is a PERMIT load

Just sayin cause it sounds BAD to me dunno.gif

Carry on.....back to topic.
glamisfamilyof4
QUOTE (Ocotillo Boy @ May 25 2009, 11:13 AM) *
QUOTE (RumpityRump @ May 25 2009, 10:59 AM) *
14'1" to the top of the ac. 8" lift-37" tires-20" rims.....TOWS VERY STABLE !!!! no matter want anyone says...drives like a locomotive-straight and steady. Ask anyone who has driven in it. It has 195 gallons of fresh water (3 x 65) also on the bottom of it.
AXLES flipped = 7 1/4" lift on the 5th wheel.

Now....the reason for this topic.........I was wondering how many trucks with lifts out there, 10 and 12" lifts and what combos they are running (37-40" tires).

Just some info for ya cause I'm a Rigger by trade.....

Cali legal height laws......

13'6" PERMANENT

14' TEMPORARY

ANYTHING over 14' is a PERMIT load

Just sayin cause it sounds BAD to me dunno.gif

Carry on.....back to topic.



hey OB you hooked me up with my second deck on my trailer and i think im around 12' or 13' what are the odds on finding an overpass or bridge under 14'
RumpityRump
QUOTE (Ocotillo Boy @ May 25 2009, 11:13 AM) *
QUOTE (RumpityRump @ May 25 2009, 10:59 AM) *
14'1" to the top of the ac. 8" lift-37" tires-20" rims.....TOWS VERY STABLE !!!! no matter want anyone says...drives like a locomotive-straight and steady. Ask anyone who has driven in it. It has 195 gallons of fresh water (3 x 65) also on the bottom of it.
AXLES flipped = 7 1/4" lift on the 5th wheel.

Now....the reason for this topic.........I was wondering how many trucks with lifts out there, 10 and 12" lifts and what combos they are running (37-40" tires).

Just some info for ya cause I'm a Rigger by trade.....

Cali legal height laws......

13'6" PERMANENT

14' TEMPORARY

ANYTHING over 14' is a PERMIT load

Just sayin cause it sounds BAD to me dunno.gif

Carry on.....back to topic.


You don't know me ( good or bad...LOL) but I always do 110% homework before I do stuff like this....many-many-many hours of homework on everything possable... bridges (lowest...14'6" on the 91...15'1" on the 10 fwy) where to gas up and LOTS LOTS more. A whole LOTTA chit load of homework.
Ocotillo Boy
QUOTE (glamisfamilyof4 @ May 25 2009, 11:22 AM) *
hey OB you hooked me up with my second deck on my trailer and i think im around 12' or 13' what are the odds on finding an overpass or bridge under 14'

That is VERY EASY. In California.....if you do not see a bridge marked with how much clearance it is then it is 16' or above.

If it not 16' and above it WILL say how tall it is.

If you are 13' tall you are OK. There are only a FEW remaining bridges in the State under 13' and they are NOT in any place you will find them going to Glamis or anyother camping spot for that matter.

You are good Bro!! Roll on...... sraptor.gif
Ocotillo Boy
QUOTE (RumpityRump @ May 25 2009, 11:35 AM) *
QUOTE (Ocotillo Boy @ May 25 2009, 11:13 AM) *
QUOTE (RumpityRump @ May 25 2009, 10:59 AM) *
14'1" to the top of the ac. 8" lift-37" tires-20" rims.....TOWS VERY STABLE !!!! no matter want anyone says...drives like a locomotive-straight and steady. Ask anyone who has driven in it. It has 195 gallons of fresh water (3 x 65) also on the bottom of it.
AXLES flipped = 7 1/4" lift on the 5th wheel.

Now....the reason for this topic.........I was wondering how many trucks with lifts out there, 10 and 12" lifts and what combos they are running (37-40" tires).

Just some info for ya cause I'm a Rigger by trade.....

Cali legal height laws......

13'6" PERMANENT

14' TEMPORARY

ANYTHING over 14' is a PERMIT load

Just sayin cause it sounds BAD to me dunno.gif

Carry on.....back to topic.


You don't know me ( good or bad...LOL) but I always do 110% homework before I do stuff like this....many-many-many hours of homework on everything possable... bridges (lowest...14'6" on the 91...15'1" on the 10 fwy) where to gas up and LOTS LOTS more. A whole LOTTA chit load of homework.

OK. Good. Sounds like you are 100% aware of your height and have done your homework accordingly. You would be surprised by how many peeps drive around willy nilly that are 100% clueless.

I'm glad to hear you are NOT one of them!!

Rig looks nice btw... sraptor.gif
Geo in a K5
QUOTE (saychz316 @ May 25 2009, 10:15 AM) *
QUOTE (Geo in a K5 @ May 24 2009, 02:43 PM) *
can someone explain what u mean by flip the trailer axles? what are the consequences of doing this?


same principle lifting the trailer, as in lowering a full size truck. moving axle to other side of springs.

its basically putting the leaf springs on the other side of the axle. warriors came with axles on top of leaf spring. when you flip them, you simply move the axle under the leaf, instead of it being on top. gives the trailer about 4" of lift if i remember right. had to do it on my trailer. if you dont do this on a truck that is lifted, your fifth wheel will be nose high, and tail dragging. this is bad, as it will wear tires out on rear axles, give improper weight distribution, causes poor handling trailer, and will not give you a proper bedrail to overhang clearance on the trailer, resulting in your truck smacking the over hang in a large dip, bump, driveway, etc. when towing a fiver, aswith any trailer, you want it level.

consequences are increased ride height, more wind drag, center of gravity higher, so a little less stability, but not much in a fiver. when you start putting lift kits on trailers to get them way jacked up to hook up to a truck that has a 12"+ lift, your just getting stupid then. my friend has a raptor toyhauler that is 14' 3" tall. way illegal, and he has to pay very close attention to where he is going, or he will rip the ac unit off it.

wait wouldn't moving the springs under the axle lower the trailer? did u mean move the springs from under the axle to over the axle?
glamisfamilyof4
QUOTE (Ocotillo Boy @ May 25 2009, 11:40 AM) *
QUOTE (glamisfamilyof4 @ May 25 2009, 11:22 AM) *
hey OB you hooked me up with my second deck on my trailer and i think im around 12' or 13' what are the odds on finding an overpass or bridge under 14'

That is VERY EASY. In California.....if you do not see a bridge marked with how much clearance it is then it is 16' or above.

If it not 16' and above it WILL say how tall it is.

If you are 13' tall you are OK. There are only a FEW remaining bridges in the State under 13' and they are NOT in any place you will find them going to Glamis or anyother camping spot for that matter.

You are good Bro!! Roll on...... sraptor.gif



thanks u da man 1dude.gif
big_daddy_jp
Heres mine with 9 inch lift, 37 inch toyos on 20's with 38 foot ww with axles flipped and my truck is as stable as they come!
Dune Carver
QUOTE (big_daddy_jp @ May 25 2009, 09:29 AM) *
Quad1100 you have got to be kidding me! The reason axles are flipped is because if your truck is jacked up it wont fit under to hook up and if it does the trailer will not travel level it will be front high wich is bad for towing. Best if you order trailer with axles flipped cause then it comes with an extra step to get in!


Now don't get your panties all twisted up in a knot BIG Daddy! I NEVER said anything bad about flipping the axles on the trailer, it is the best thing to do if you have a lifted truck. The guy asked what the consequences were and I answered it, so I am not kidding!
Extremetoyota
here is the tallest truck and fifth wheel i have ever seen or been in. this was my buddies truck he did more just to see if it could be done, it actually worked better then you think.
truckguy
i have a 2008 f450 with a 11 inch rize kit on it with 38 inch bfg all terrains and 22 inch american force wheels and i tow a weekendwarrior cl 4005 and it tows like a dream
RumpityRump
YEAH BABY !!!!!!!!!! Thats what I'm talking about.....the last two posts were KILLER....
Geo in a K5
that is sick!!!!! a lifted F450!!!!
big_daddy_jp
I stand corrected quad1100 i mistook his question. Next time i will read it more carefully! I thought he asked why people flip the axles not what the consequences were for doing so. My humblest appologies!
Fantasy Casino 777
QUOTE (glamisfamilyof4 @ May 25 2009, 11:22 AM) *
QUOTE (Ocotillo Boy @ May 25 2009, 11:13 AM) *
QUOTE (RumpityRump @ May 25 2009, 10:59 AM) *
14'1" to the top of the ac. 8" lift-37" tires-20" rims.....TOWS VERY STABLE !!!! no matter want anyone says...drives like a locomotive-straight and steady. Ask anyone who has driven in it. It has 195 gallons of fresh water (3 x 65) also on the bottom of it.
AXLES flipped = 7 1/4" lift on the 5th wheel.

Now....the reason for this topic.........I was wondering how many trucks with lifts out there, 10 and 12" lifts and what combos they are running (37-40" tires).

Just some info for ya cause I'm a Rigger by trade.....

Cali legal height laws......

13'6" PERMANENT

14' TEMPORARY

ANYTHING over 14' is a PERMIT load

Just sayin cause it sounds BAD to me dunno.gif

Carry on.....back to topic.



hey OB you hooked me up with my second deck on my trailer and i think im around 12' or 13' what are the odds on finding an overpass or bridge under 14'


101 by Pismo
truckguy
QUOTE (Geo in a K5 @ May 25 2009, 10:31 PM) *
that is sick!!!!! a lifted F450!!!!

thanks rump and geo i like to take pride in it thanks
Geo in a K5
QUOTE (truckguy @ May 26 2009, 08:28 PM) *
QUOTE (Geo in a K5 @ May 25 2009, 10:31 PM) *
that is sick!!!!! a lifted F450!!!!

thanks rump and geo i like to take pride in it thanks

is that a standard lift for an F350? did it need any mods? hows it ride...... that is so cool a heavy duty truck that can actullaly go offroad thumb.gif
Dune Carver
QUOTE (big_daddy_jp @ May 26 2009, 08:10 PM) *
I stand corrected quad1100 i mistook his question. Next time i will read it more carefully! I thought he asked why people flip the axles not what the consequences were for doing so. My humblest appologies!


It's all good, now lets get focus.gif
truckguy
QUOTE (Geo in a K5 @ May 26 2009, 10:49 PM) *
QUOTE (truckguy @ May 26 2009, 08:28 PM) *
QUOTE (Geo in a K5 @ May 25 2009, 10:31 PM) *
that is sick!!!!! a lifted F450!!!!

thanks rump and geo i like to take pride in it thanks

is that a standard lift for an F350? did it need any mods? hows it ride...... that is so cool a heavy duty truck that can actullaly go offroad thumb.gif

yes it did need some mods rides like a dream well little rough in the rear due to the airbags but front dosent feel the bumps at all and before airbags and traction bars rear was really nice also thanks for the intrest
saychz316
QUOTE (Geo in a K5 @ May 25 2009, 12:38 PM) *
QUOTE (saychz316 @ May 25 2009, 10:15 AM) *
QUOTE (Geo in a K5 @ May 24 2009, 02:43 PM) *
can someone explain what u mean by flip the trailer axles? what are the consequences of doing this?


same principle lifting the trailer, as in lowering a full size truck. moving axle to other side of springs.

its basically putting the leaf springs on the other side of the axle. warriors came with axles on top of leaf spring (springs under axle). when you flip them, you simply move the axle under the leaf (or put springs on top of axle), instead of it being on top. gives the trailer about 4" of lift if i remember right. had to do it on my trailer. if you dont do this on a truck that is lifted, your fifth wheel will be nose high, and tail dragging. this is bad, as it will wear tires out on rear axles, give improper weight distribution, causes poor handling trailer, and will not give you a proper bedrail to overhang clearance on the trailer, resulting in your truck smacking the over hang in a large dip, bump, driveway, etc. when towing a fiver, aswith any trailer, you want it level.

consequences are increased ride height, more wind drag, center of gravity higher, so a little less stability, but not much in a fiver. when you start putting lift kits on trailers to get them way jacked up to hook up to a truck that has a 12"+ lift, your just getting stupid then. my friend has a raptor toyhauler that is 14' 3" tall. way illegal, and he has to pay very close attention to where he is going, or he will rip the ac unit off it.

wait wouldn't moving the springs under the axle lower the trailer? correct, thats what i said, read it again carefully did u mean move the springs from under the axle to over the axle? thats exactly what i wrote, check again. i just worded it differently than you did.



cartwrencher
QUOTE (Ocotillo Boy @ May 25 2009, 11:13 AM) *
QUOTE (RumpityRump @ May 25 2009, 10:59 AM) *
14'1" to the top of the ac. 8" lift-37" tires-20" rims.....TOWS VERY STABLE !!!! no matter want anyone says...drives like a locomotive-straight and steady. Ask anyone who has driven in it. It has 195 gallons of fresh water (3 x 65) also on the bottom of it.
AXLES flipped = 7 1/4" lift on the 5th wheel.

Now....the reason for this topic.........I was wondering how many trucks with lifts out there, 10 and 12" lifts and what combos they are running (37-40" tires).

Just some info for ya cause I'm a Rigger by trade.....

Cali legal height laws......

13'6" PERMANENT

14' TEMPORARY

ANYTHING over 14' is a PERMIT load

Just sayin cause it sounds BAD to me dunno.gif

Carry on.....back to topic.


Speaking of that...what are the weight ratings for the tires/wheels for those with the lifts and custome wheels?

Just curious.
richard cheese
QUOTE (Ocotillo Boy @ May 25 2009, 10:13 AM) *
Just some info for ya cause I'm a Rigger by trade.....



so much good material to work with........hmmmm do i WANT to get suspended? laughing.gif

dieselfumes
QUOTE (cartwrencher @ May 30 2009, 04:10 PM) *
QUOTE (Ocotillo Boy @ May 25 2009, 11:13 AM) *
QUOTE (RumpityRump @ May 25 2009, 10:59 AM) *
14'1" to the top of the ac. 8" lift-37" tires-20" rims.....TOWS VERY STABLE !!!! no matter want anyone says...drives like a locomotive-straight and steady. Ask anyone who has driven in it. It has 195 gallons of fresh water (3 x 65) also on the bottom of it.
AXLES flipped = 7 1/4" lift on the 5th wheel.

Now....the reason for this topic.........I was wondering how many trucks with lifts out there, 10 and 12" lifts and what combos they are running (37-40" tires).

Just some info for ya cause I'm a Rigger by trade.....

Cali legal height laws......

13'6" PERMANENT

14' TEMPORARY

ANYTHING over 14' is a PERMIT load

Just sayin cause it sounds BAD to me dunno.gif

Carry on.....back to topic.


Speaking of that...what are the weight ratings for the tires/wheels for those with the lifts and custome wheels?

Just curious.


My Toyo Open countrys have an "E" weight Rating, Somewhere around 3800 lbs per tire


saychz316
QUOTE (cartwrencher @ May 30 2009, 04:10 PM) *
Speaking of that...what are the weight ratings for the tires/wheels for those with the lifts and custome wheels?

Just curious.


i have stock wheels, not sure what they are rated at. my 35" toyo a/t's are rated at 4080lbs per tire.
dieselfumes
RumpityRump
QUOTE (dieselfumes @ May 30 2009, 09:22 PM) *


Tire size ? Rim size ? lift size ?
dieselfumes
QUOTE (RumpityRump @ May 30 2009, 11:46 PM) *
QUOTE (dieselfumes @ May 30 2009, 09:22 PM) *


Tire size ? Rim size ? lift size ?


8" lift, 37's on 22's Towing the CL40. You dont want to go more than 8".

If you lift it, you will spend a few thousand bucks bringing the power band back to stock.

* Flip Axles on trailer
* regear axle(front and back)
* traction bars
* Add bigger brakes(pre 2007 trucks)

I added triple disk converter, oversized pan to trans
Get some good gauges(pre 2007)
RumpityRump
QUOTE (dieselfumes @ May 31 2009, 10:58 AM) *
QUOTE (RumpityRump @ May 30 2009, 11:46 PM) *
QUOTE (dieselfumes @ May 30 2009, 09:22 PM) *


Tire size ? Rim size ? lift size ?


8" lift, 37's on 22's Towing the CL40. You dont want to go more than 8".

If you lift it, you will spend a few thousand bucks bringing the power band back to stock.

* Flip Axles on trailer
* regear axle(front and back)
* traction bars
* Add bigger brakes(pre 2007 trucks)

I added triple disk converter, oversized pan to trans
Get some good gauges(pre 2007)


I'm sorry....I didn't realize it was the same bitch'in ride as on the page 1. Thanks.
stetler
QUOTE (truckguy @ May 25 2009, 08:19 PM) *
i have a 2008 f450 with a 11 inch rize kit on it with 38 inch bfg all terrains and 22 inch american force wheels and i tow a weekendwarrior cl 4005 and it tows like a dream


Truck Guy,
What is the measurment from the ground to the top of your truck bed BEFORE you hitch up your trailer?

I am getting ready to buy a new trailer and I really want a 5th wheel but I'm worried I won't be able to tow it because of the height of my truck and the weight of the trailer.
I've got a 2004 Duramax 2500HD , chipped, with a 12" lift and 38" Toyo tires. The truck is a Long Bed so I was told that helps. dunno though. What's your trailer weigh dry?

redrhino99
My cousin has a F-350 lifted with 44's towing a 40' toy box. He doesn't have any problem's at all. I can't keep up with him. When I'm towing my 26' toy box.
stetler
really.......... 44" tires. WTF. I posted a thread about this a while ago and Everybody told me I wasn't going to be able to do it because my truck is too high.
Headinjury
Im sure towing with a lifted truck doesnt do anything to the center of gravity or change the towing characteristics when it's windy. sarcasm.gif smile.gif


Just remember those of you towing with lifted trucks. You are more likely to be pulled over than not. So watch your speed and make sure you have the correct class drivers license.

5th wheel with a GVWR of 15,000 lbs or requires a Non Commercial Class A license.

Most of all, be extra careful in the wind.
stetler
15,000 Lbs. huh. I'm only hauling a rhino in it so It should be under the weight.
Headinjury
QUOTE (stetler @ Sep 14 2009, 08:30 PM) *
15,000 Lbs. huh. I'm only hauling a rhino in it so It should be under the weight.



Its not your actual weight, it is what the 5th wheel is rated at.

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating = GVWR
truckguy
QUOTE (stetler @ Sep 14 2009, 04:35 PM) *
QUOTE (truckguy @ May 25 2009, 08:19 PM) *
i have a 2008 f450 with a 11 inch rize kit on it with 38 inch bfg all terrains and 22 inch american force wheels and i tow a weekendwarrior cl 4005 and it tows like a dream


Truck Guy,
What is the measurment from the ground to the top of your truck bed BEFORE you hitch up your trailer?

I am getting ready to buy a new trailer and I really want a 5th wheel but I'm worried I won't be able to tow it because of the height of my truck and the weight of the trailer.
I've got a 2004 Duramax 2500HD , chipped, with a 12" lift and 38" Toyo tires. The truck is a Long Bed so I was told that helps. dunno though. What's your trailer weigh dry?



stetler i will get thoes measurements tomarrow for you im not sure off the top of my head yes longbed is better and the trailer weight dry is 14 or 16 thousand lbs i will sell you the trailer its already set up for a lifted truck but anyways i will get you the measurements tomarrow see ya T.G.
lincster
Long beds are better for stability but hurt you in tow ratings..... but in this thread, I don't think anyone cares about tow ratings......
Headinjury
QUOTE (lincster @ Sep 14 2009, 09:12 PM) *
Long beds are better for stability but hurt you in tow ratings..... but in this thread, I don't think anyone cares about tow ratings......



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