I have owned two 5th wheels. I still have one. I am lookin into getting rid of the truck and 5th wheel and getting a motorhome and enclosed trailer.

I dont know much about motorhomes.

Class c is with the bunk up top, right?

Class A is a diesel pusher, right?

What is a class b? is there one?

I am lookin for somthin around a 32 to 36 foot. Two slides. A pusher would be nice but not sure on the $$

Any pros and cons to a pusher vs a v10? I am reading the rv trader and I think there are front motor diesels, its this right?

Any tips will be helpfull.

Thanks in advance.

Check out Super "C" also.....Kodiak chassis mount!

Be carefull most moho's, class c and non diesel class a's aren't able to tow a trailer over 5 thousand pounds...
They have front, mid, and rear diesels now, and even gas rear engine....
Can you refi instead of doing a rv loan? That will also open your choices to toter style moho's (probably best choice now)...

toter homes are sweet!

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FRED's or front engine diesel's get stuck very easily from what I ahve heard. That is alot of weight up front on single tires, friend that has one said the front end sinks instantly.

Here's some basics:

Class C: Cab over camper on a Ford or Chevy 3500 Chasis (usually)
pros: Let of sleeping room
Cons: minimal towing capacity

Class B: Van style camper (no cab over)
Pros: Best gas milage
cons: minimal towing capacity or sleeping room

Class A (gas): Large box style motorhome
pros: Less expensive then a diesel pusher
cons: Minimal towing capacity

Class A (diesel): Large box style motorhome
pros: Usually up to 10,000 in towing capacity
cons: Expensive

Let us know what your budget, how many people will you be travelling with, and how much you will be towing, and I'm I'm sure we can recommend something...

Thanks

I have been looking a bit. Looks like I can get a pusher for about 70k..

I found one a 39' 2003 Holiday Rambler with a 425hp Cat with two slides for 69k.


I am bit worried about length. I have a rail in need about 15' and a quad. How big of a enclosed trailer do I need?

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You should be able to get all that in a 20' enclosed trailer easily.

20 box + tongue = 24' + 39' Moho = 63' (two feet under legal limit)

425 hp is a lot of power. You will get poor mileage. 330 hp should be plenty for what you are using it for.

I strongly disagree. Get the most hp you can you won't be sorry.

Yeah, I was kinda thinking that the higher hp engine is producing a lot more torque (say 1700 ft -lbs vs 1200 lft lb) and thus could pull the same load more easily lower in the rpm range, thus 1 gear higher than the weaker engine.

I know if I put my Juice in level 3 instead of level 1 on the hills, I can maintain 4th instead of dropping into 3rd, so at 55 mph I'm doing 2200 rpm instead of 3000 rpm in 3rd, giving me much better fuel economy.

Do 425 hp diesel pushers get 11 mpg? No way in hell, not even on a 36 foot like mine. My 275 horse climbs hills slower but I will bet, that at cruising speed, no way that it will come close. But this isn't about me, so I will remain silent from here on out and let the gentleman think for himself. Read the attached forum and decide for yourself. Fuel will NOT get any cheaper from this day forward. MPG is a big consideration for resale in the future.


http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseacti...d/tid/20685084/

Good thread. I am in this same boat and looking at the same stuff. I am a big fan though of the deisel. Torque..............

I don't even think HR offered a 425 hp in any '03 model. R u sure about that? 325 maybe??

As far as trailer size...for comparison...I have a 22' enclosed and I fit a full size LT 5 seat rail, 2 kids quads (a 50 and 90), my dirt bike, and everything else I take out with a little room to spare.

Keep us posted

Still kickin tires. The sales men HATE it. LOL

I have not gone back to the Holiday Rambler I found. We are still a ways out from buying. That is why I am not even looking on here for one. I dont want to waste anyones time (dealers ok).

I hope to look at a few inclosed trailers this weekend with my measurements of my buggy with the quad in front sideways and then see how long the whole trailer is.

If you can, buy used private party.

Motorhomes especially Diesel Pushers are usually kept in great shape by older couples. I've looked at some used DPs that look brand new and are 50k-70k less and only 2 years old. At that depreciation rate I would never want to buy a new Motorhome.

We bought our Motorhome 2 years ago. It's a 2005. Bought it used through Giant RV. We were lucky to find the floorplan that we liked with the chassis that I wanted. It's a Windsport 32' Gas on a Workhorse with the GM Vortec 8.1L V-8 engine and Allison transmission. This is a very rare find on this type of motorhome and was a custom ordered motorhome from the original owner. Brand new it sold for $115,000 and after two years we picked it up for $71,000 with only 12,000 miles on it.

I would love to own a diesel pusher for the long trips we take but the motorhome we have now has everything we need. Last weekend we drove up to Roseville, CA and I filled the tank on the way up, and on the way back and ran the gen the whole time. I was averaging about 9-10 mph cruising at 65 pulling a 12' enclosed trailer. I have had our 20' flatbed loaded with 40 gallons of water, 40 gallons of fuel, 2 Rhinos and a Ranger and it pulled it no problem.

We looked at everything when purchasing our motorhome. The class C motorhomes didn't have a lot of open room and most had very low holding tank capacities and towing capacities. The Super C motorhomes were ridiculously priced and didn't have much craftsmanship for the price. Both of these types of Class C motorhomes both had poor re-sale value.

The diesel pushers were great and had good re-sale values but the up keep and registration were more. Also at the time of purchase Diesel fuel was abotu $5 a gallon.

Good luck with your search.

the only way you are going to catch me in a motorhome is if i can afford a diesel pusher or show hauler/toter home. gasoline motorhomes have crap for towing capacity, and are slugs on hills, and have poor mileage & towing ability, if that is a concern for you. call me what you want, it sucks going up a hill at 25 mph, or less.

on the internet everyone claims great mileage, etc. i call bs on most of it. but who the hell cares. if you are getting 7-8 mpg, big deal. you are not buying a motorhome for daily driving use. its for recreational use. i know 15 mpg would be nice out of a diesel pusher, but its not going to happen. too many people put an emphasis on mileage, and never get what they want. i have a 2006 f-350 truck. its a tank, and its got a 4.5" lift on 35" tires. know what my mileage is? i dont care! i cant tell you because i dont know, and i dont care. i didnt buy it to be a fuel miser. i bought it to drive and tow. if you make me guess, 7-9 towing, and 14 round town.

there is no such thing as too big a motor, or too much torque & horsepower. get the biggest one you can afford to get, and laugh at the gassers struggling up the hill dragging a trailer, doing 20 mph or less, all while you sip your coffee in the a.m. on the way to glamis doing 55 up the hill effortlessly. when you start lugging a diesel engine, it starts heating up, egt's go up, and fuel economy goes down. thats a fact jack. so if you have a smaller diesel, and its lugging up a hill vs. a larger less economical diesel that is not lugging up a hill, whats the difference?

go big bro!!

my .02

Its gonna be a pusher or nothin. Its gonna have at least 300hp. These things are for sure.

I hope we are ready and get somthin by winter. Truck is paid off and no payments right now. Just house. Wanna banks some money now, but I want a pusher!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRR

Toters are sweet(see avatar) but I'm ready to get out of mine and into prob a super C. With the kids getting older we are def outgrowing it. We bought it as a race hauler and it ended up being our fulltime moterhome.

I have 330hp in mine. I get around eleven mpg and it doesn't shy away from the steep grades.

I guess it's all perspective and relative on what you really want in a coach.

If you're only using your motorhome to tow a big trailer and heading out to the desert to dry camp. Get a big monster of a pusher/puller so you can get there quickly, be comfortable when you get there and have plenty of water for a long trip.

We bought our motorhome to go to the desert. We have now gotten into BMX racing and have been traveling a lot on the west coast. We don't tow a lot of weight if we do tow and we usually have hook-ups for water and electricity. I think that a diesel pusher would be more than what we need given our use.

Fuel consumption may be irrelevant for some but when you actually do use your motorhome atleast once a month and you drive more than 400 miles a trip, gas mileage is very relevant. Last year we were driving to Tuscon, AZ from So-Cal and faced a headwind for about 150 miles. I went through about 100 gallons of fuel one way and gas was at $4.15 a gallon. I also used about 10 gallons of fuel on the generator. Would I say that better fuel economy would be nice on long distance trips? Yes.

But like I said, it's all perspective. Get what you need and look for the options that you want. Analyze how you're going to use your coach and and get what best suits your needs.