Truck is a Chevy2500HD with a Duramax and and edge programmer. It is an 03. It is lifted 6" and rides on 35" tires.

No mods have been done to the suspension or brakes as far as weight capacity goes. Only the 6" lift.

I'm thinking about buying a Weekend Warrior CL44. 44' Long.......roughly 3000lbs hitch weight


Can I pull this trailer with my truck?!?!?!

Will it be safe?!?!?!

Legal?!?!?!!?

No problem?!?!?!?!

The trailer is a smoking deal and do not wanna pass it up BUT I think it might be possible my truck will not handle it.

What says the peanut gallerey?????

What's the weight of the trailer?

My Ragen 35' is 9' shorter and weight wise brings my truck to the GCWR MAX= 23,500. Depending on how you load it, you could end up as much as 3-4K over the GCWR for the 2500. People do it and say it feels safe, I say those 44's are 450/4500 country.

OB, I was under the impression you had a big rig for moving equipment............. Just a thought mang. If I had one, it would double duty pulling my junk to the dunes.

I think the empty weight with no toys or water or food or gas or gear ect ect is around 15K or 16K.

It could be as light as 14K empty.


I think after it's loaded it will be upwards of 20K pretty easy

You are 100% Wash. This thread is actually for a "friend" to help him decide.

My new MoHo and enclosed is working PERFECT. No rig change for me anytime soon.....

At 20k, Chuckzilla is right. To much for 2500, legally speaking.

Sure sounds like alot of weight.

Roger that, makes more sense now.

We all know this, but be sure you friend knows he'll need at least a non-commicial class A if the fifth wheel trailer weights more than 15k.

The G.C.W.R. of a 03 2500HD is 22,000lbs.

too much trailer for the truck mang...... if the trailer is such a deal buy it now and ugrade truck later...

Right, and 23,500 for my 06 3500 dually.

Its not safe.
I also doubt that the pin weight is only 3k.
I would do it with a 1 ton dually and it would still be pushing it.

not safe to do with a 3/4 ton.Especially a lifted one.

The truck itself will weigh in over 7k, then add an empty 15k trailer to, and you are over the limit WITHOUT and toys or provisions..

This one is easy.

NO

NO

NO

yes it might not be right but im wiling to bet ya that 80% on this site runs over rated

My HD2500 with a CL40 was 31,000 loaded. It pulled it. But stopping was another issue altogether.

Anybody know how much more the CL44 weighs over the CL40?!?!?!







Edited for: Realistically he could be 10,000lbs OVER his G.C.W.R. with this truck.......

You're looking at worst case scenario, like if he buys a 3500 lb sandrail.

If he went to smaller tires, airbags, a great brake controller and loaded all of the weight near the rear, he could reduce pin weight and control it under braking. But just barely. I know he'd be over weight based on the stickers, but stickers don't stop the rig, the trailer brakes do. I'm towing 19 - 19.5K lbs with my 2500 HD and it stops on a dime and never sways, under any conditions.

Having said that, I still think he'd be a lot safer with some sort of class 8 truck.

I hear you Steve BUT he is not a tow pro. You have MANY years towing as a lot of us do (me included) and it is NOT a rookie setup by any means of the imagination.

I move loads in excess of 140,000lbs and I know when enough is enough. These little trucks are over rated on tow capacities as it is IMHO and to exceed that by many thousands is not a good idea IMHO.

It's all cool until you have a emergency situation that involves turning fast in a slalom course style mixed in with very heavy braking.

That is when the 23,000lbs of trailer will over power the 7.5K lbs truck and demonstrates the laws of physics and gravity and momentum.

Sounds like your friend has all the advice he'll need.

You're right.

I think with that combo the shocks might make too much noise...

Actually......they would be fully compressed all the time and would not make a peep.

All you guys are awesome!!! Thanks Ocotillo Boy for starting this thread! I basically sent the gentleman that had the cl44 and told him I could not pull the trigger....unless he wanted to through in his truck too.

I spoke to my friend who manages a local RV sales and he also stated that I would ruin my truck real quick, if not immediately. He suggested having a F550 or a Kodiak at least to pull this heavy of a rig.

Still on the lookout for the right rig. I hope to see you all out in the dunes this next season. Cheers

I have a 45ft ww and pull it with a f450. My truck had warranty issues and my buddy loaned me his 2500 so I could go the the sandrailfaibricators regatta.
Let me tell ya It made it but BARELY. I babied it all the way at about 45 mph and she was heavy. Yes it did it but It wont do it everyday or every trip for that matter. You wouldnt make it to Dumont or pismo because its uphill.

Put airbags and duals on the rear and there ya go.

An F350 would blow it's tranny out trying to tow that, and it would never get over 40 mph. You'd be way better off with your 2500HD and Juice, if you had smaller tires.

Consider selling your 2500 and getting a used Freightliner, Volvo, KW, or similar. You can pick one up in the $27 - $32K range, then you'll have a nice safety margin.

Sure an F450 or F550 could pull it, but at 5 mpg and slower than molasses in the winter. You'd be better off with a Volvo getting a much better ride, probably 9 or 10 mpg and even greater towing cap.


If I were in your shoes, I'd pull the trigger on the CL44, have him deliver it. Sell your 2500HD for whatever you can get, and add a couple bucks more and get a Volvo, get it registered as an RV and you're all set.

If I could talk the wifey into this I would be all over it...I would pull it with my pete....that is a great price....definately sell your chevy...lots of great deals on truckpaper.com....killer deals.

i have a 2500hd duramax ww 3905 lt v8 four quads power wise yes weight wise no pushin it

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is the deal is that good I am looking for a 2500 cc sb... hook a brother up! ((PM's Accepted))

Not selling the 2500HD....just going to find a trailer that can fit the truck instead. I had the common sydrome of my eyes being bigger than my common sense. Good luck in your search. Cheers

You just answered your own question.

NO.

I have an 04 Dmax and here is my summer load. The 5th wheel is just over 11k and the boat and trailer I'm guessing at around 4500lbs. I pull it no problem. In the winter I replace the boat with a 24' flatbed Ltv8 car and 2 quads.

I had a CL4005+5. I pulled it with a 3500 dually. I weighed it once on my way to Pismo. I had full water, full gas, a quad and a Rino. Truck and trailer loaded came in at 29,750 lbs. I would usually put my rail and rhino so add another 2800 lbs for the rail and you get the idea. Like TNT said it would pull ok but stoping was a whole other issue.

My buddy weighed his FT 40 footer and it was just over 18k empty (sticker from WW 13.5K) he towed with a 3500 long bed and had no real issues. He just moved up to an F-450 and said it is night and day. You could keep your stuff at Dunes edge and I think you'd be ok.

Thats what I would suggest.....15 min or 4 hours....to the dunes you could probably get away with a 1/2 ton with that short of a trip....

First, pin weight of that trailer will be 4000+ lbs.
I have seen CAT scale stickers on SLC3905 with over 4000lbs of pin weight.
With the lift and tires, you have essentially lowered all of the tow ratings of that truck, so you can't use the 22,000lbs GCWR unless the truck is regeared.

That much trailer needs a new F450 to haul it.

Not to be a smart (_|_) but aren't the full throttles 43 feet and wiegh more and I constantly see those getting towed by 3/4 tons. Not saying its legal...just saying.