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AZDUNERAT
I just bough two 350 warriors, one for me and one for the wife! I havent been to the dunes in quite some time and was currious about what I shoudl expect out of these bikes. I have scat trak paddles for both and both are completely stock. I dont need to have the fastet bike up the hill but I am hoping that I will be able to handle most of what glamis can throw at me. Any thoughts or suggestions. And please dont post that I should have bought a banshee or raptor yadda yadda, I picked up both of these bikes(ones a 93 the other 97) in perfect condition for 3 grand. Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Aaron
TANK
you should be able to do anything you can see. but get the bikes down before you go crazy. and stop occasionaly to let the bikes cool down since they are air cooled and will be ridden a bit harder since its all dunes......and most importantly have fun and ride safe. peace
BeachHead
Aaron...sounds like you got one heck of a deal! The warriors are a reliable bike. You are right, they are not going to be the fastest bikes out there, but they will get you anywhere you want to go, and most importantly, back again..icon_smile.gif You'll just have to learn the bike, and choose lines that work for it. Just start out in the smaller dunes, and within a hour or so, you should be able to figure out what it can and can't do.

Most importantly, have fun..icon_smile.gif
SHOCKER
Yeah thats a good deal, what size paddels did ya get? they will make up anything glamis can throw at ya, at least most of anything
PimpShackDave
Great bikes to get started on! And if you don't really have any ambition to fly, a few performance mods here and there along the way will get them zippy enough to keep up on the quicker rides. Good luck, enjoy the dunes!

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Derwud
I owned a 92 Warrior and now have a 97 warrior. Exhaust, get anexhaust system, it will really start to fly....
Mangy Dog
I went to Glamis for my first time pres day with my 2003. I didnt have any problems with 99% of the dunes, only exception was oldsmobile for the first 15 or 20 tries. After I figured it out, I could get to the top, but it definitely wasnt fast.

Since then, i put on a 12T front sprocket to see if that will help for next time. Just goofing around in the sand here in Las Vegas makes me think it will do alot better. It seems to have the extra torque that everyone was telling me about.

My problem was that I could get into 4th gear to go up the hill, but it was not in the power band, so I would quickly lose momentum. Although 1st gear is now almost useless, I think I will be able to get to top of 4th gear if not 5th but have enough rpms to keep it going all the way to the top.

I think the warrior is fine, just like you said, not the fastest, but perfectly capable. Small and medium dunes will be easy, larger ones a good challenge and a test of skill for the largest/steepest dunes out there.

No matter what, you got a great deal and there will be no reason for you not to have as much of a blast as everyone else out there. Where did you find such a great deal?
AZDUNERAT
The deal was kind of a friend of a friend situation. One of the guys I play raquetball with was friends with a duner that passed away two years ago. His wife just wanted the bikes out of the garage.

So next question, what mods if any should I add to the bikes what is worth the investment and what isnt. Pipes sprockets etc etc... ??????

Aaron
Mangy Dog
I would definitely get the air filters changed if they are still stock. Pro design and NOSS make an adapter where you bolt on an intake neck that is airtight and rigid. Then you can use a clamp on air filter like a uni, prodesign, or K & N. This way your air filter will never come off accidentally. the stock set up just sits in a groove made by the lid and airbox and is not all that good. Cost is about $100 for the adapter and a good foam filter and outerwear. I got a prodesign one with extra filter so I can always keep a freshly cleaned and oiled one on the ready all for about $130. I think this is a necessity in the sand and gives you more options with running without a lid, or drilling holes to accomodate a pipe and jet kit.

It looks like this:

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Here is a link, but you should be able to get them at your local stealer.

http://www.prodesignracing.com/pro_flow_kits.htm
AZDUNERAT
I already bought two new UNI filters, but I noticed that the factory frame makes a horrible seal. I will look into these adapters. Does the exhaust make a big difference on these bikes, or will the siliencer be enough

Aaron
Mangy Dog
you should be able to get just the adapter for about $35.00.

It depends on your definition of silencer and exhaust. I have an E-series slip on that is called a silencer, but most people just call it a pipe or an exhaust. I run no air box lid and this pipe, and I definitely picked up more power. All the specs say it should be anywhere from 2-5 hp. Lots of people think it is a waste of money, but even 2 hp gain on a stock 17 hp motor is a significant increase, over 10%. I dont know anything about the other pipes, but the E-series rocks.
LateNate
QUOTE (Mangy Dog @ Mar 8 2004, 10:15 PM)
Since then, i put on a 12T front sprocket to see if that will help for next time.

FYI: you shouldn’t go bellow 13 teeth on the countershaft sprocket. To lower the gearing you could go with 2-3 teeth larger on the rear...of course it’s not like it’s going to have 50hp but better safe than sorry.
JSYI
QUOTE (Fixxxer78 @ Mar 11 2004, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE (Mangy Dog @ Mar 8 2004, 10:15 PM)
Since then, i put on a 12T front sprocket to see if that will help for next time.

FYI: you shouldn’t go bellow 13 teeth on the countershaft sprocket. To lower the gearing you could go with 2-3 teeth larger on the rear...of course it’s not like it’s going to have 50hp but better safe than sorry.

Im assuming yoru saying this in regards to it being too tight of a turn for the chain?
Mangy Dog
QUOTE (Fixxxer78 @ Mar 11 2004, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE (Mangy Dog @ Mar 8 2004, 10:15 PM)
Since then, i put on a 12T front sprocket to see if that will help for next time.

FYI: you shouldn’t go bellow 13 teeth on the countershaft sprocket. To lower the gearing you could go with 2-3 teeth larger on the rear...of course it’s not like it’s going to have 50hp but better safe than sorry.

Sorry but I dont agree, a 12 tooth front will turn the rear wheel less at the same rpms. This means the motor does not have to work as hard at a given rpm. You will lose top end speed but the somewhat weak 350 motor will be able to achieve, hold and maintain that speed with the higher rpms when using the smaller sprocket. At the lower rpms, the motor just doesnt have enough torque to keep going, which in turn makes you lose momentum, forcing a downshift, and the loss of more momentum: resulting in not getting as far up the hill.

I have atleast 10 people I know that said that this would be the best mod for duning my warrior and after the last 5 hours of riding in the Las Vegas desert, I will have to agree. Since the sprocket change, it wheelies at will, and provides a much larger power band for all terrains. The only downfall is the lost 4-5 mph in top speed, which I really dont use all that much anyways. Cant wait to get to G again.
TACO
HAHAHHHAA HE SAID WARRIOR.........
LateNate
Increasing the rear sprocket size will essentially do the same as decreasing the front. The problem with 12 tooth fronts is the tighter angle on the chain. It’s probably not that big a deal with the low hp of the Warrior but it will wear the chain and sprocket faster.

Gearing lower on an underpowered machine is definitely the best bank-for-the-buck mod you can do. Like you said, you loose a little top speed but now you can get to top speed faster. Decreasing form a 15th to a 14th on my 400ex is one of the first things I did to it.
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