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MeterTech
This topic came up in another thread so I decided to start a new one and ask the question:

While towing with either a Motorhome/RV towing an Enclosed or a Truck towing a Trailer or 5th Wheel have you ever been pulled over by the CHP and have they pulled out the scales and weighed your set-up? And if so what happend if you were over weight or under weight?

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Headinjury
Nope... never been pulled over or weighed. As long as your Gross Weight isnt over the tire ratings on the coach, you are good to go.
free ride
this right here is the reason I drive slow. I don't want to get pulled over and find out. I don't think I am overweight but don't yet have the non-com class A wife.gif
L.R.S.
Most truck stops with pubilc scales only charge around $20 for a certified weight ticket. If ther're not busy you may be able to weigh the trailer and truck separate and hooked up. Won't keep you from getting a ticket but at least you'll know if you over or not. I have a moving company near my house so I was able to weigh my class C dry and 'loaded', 13,500 loaded and I forget the dry weight.

I'd always wondered if a coach was overloaded for the tire rating and had a blow out and caused an accident and someone were hurt or killed would that make the person liable?
what hurts?
Been stopped @ the scales in a commercial vehicle for being overweight, just a fix it ticket.
MWBbanshee
I have seen DPS Az's version of the CHP pull over a Toterhome with stacker and putting it on the portable scales. But thats what you get when you put the name of your race team or sponsers names on the side of your trailer. At least that is what I was told from somebody who got pulled over and ticketed for towing a large trailer behind a Company Truck with out the ADOT numbers on it. Truck was a dually BTW.
L.R.S.
QUOTE (what hurts? @ Aug 25 2009, 02:41 PM) *
Been stopped @ the scales in a commercial vehicle for being overweight, just a fix it ticket.

About 15 years ago I got a ticket at the San Onofre scales in a 10 car carrier for 300 lbs over on the rears. Had to reposition the cars because the axles are fixed. Ticket was about $300. Got another one at the Camorillo scales for being 88000 lbs with a flat trailer loaded with lumber. That was $1000 but I talked him down to $500. I said the wood had been raind on so my board/ft calculations were off a bit. Did better then the non english speaking guy in front of me who was trying to convince the judge (via his 8 year old son/intrepreter) that the chickens he picked up were not frozen. But when his refer trailer froze them they got heavier. He probably scated though, viva la NAFTA!
jenndon
QUOTE (what hurts? @ Aug 25 2009, 02:41 PM) *
Been stopped @ the scales in a commercial vehicle for being overweight, just a fix it ticket.


I heard someone say their friend got pulled over and CHP made him unhook the trailer. He had to go get a truck to get the trailer home.

Also the stories of people being over weight, and getting in an accident. Whats the liability? Will your insurance not cover you?


This is all hear say so I don't know if there is any truth to this. Just was wondering.
DIRTADDICT
I have read and read stories of guys getting pulled over for the last 10 years. I myself have never been pulled over. If you are in the right lane, doing the right speed, and don't have an eye sore (like a spa with people in it on top), you really lower the chances of being messed with.

Over loaded or not your insurance will cover you. Insurance covers your negligents. But if you have a weigh scale ticket in your glove box when you stack it up you could be in some trouble. Also iIf there is a death involved every detail of your situation will be scrutinized. And in this economy insurance companies are looking for any reason to not cover you. So better to be safe than sorry.

Peace,
Headinjury
QUOTE (DIRTADDICT @ Aug 27 2009, 11:42 AM) *
I have read and read stories of guys getting pulled over for the last 10 years. I myself have never been pulled over. If you are in the right lane, doing the right speed, and don't have an eye sore (like a spa with people in it on top), you really lower the chances of being messed with.

Over loaded or not your insurance will cover you. Insurance covers your negligents. But if you have a weigh scale ticket in your glove box when you stack it up you could be in some trouble. Also iIf there is a death involved every detail of your situation will be scrutinized. And in this economy insurance companies are looking for any reason to not cover you. So better to be safe than sorry.

Peace,



Great Post Gino!
Bigboy
QUOTE (Headinjury @ Aug 25 2009, 02:23 PM) *
Nope... never been pulled over or weighed. As long as your Gross Weight isnt over the tire ratings on the coach, you are good to go.


First, I've heard the urban legends like everyone else and it's always a concern of mine. I talked to a guy in Glamis one time with a beast of a rig and he told me he got popped one time and it was a "fix it" for length, no impound or anything like that. He did say that he only runs at night now though...

Shawn,
I don't think this statement is really accurate. I mean you should know having sold them... but I know I had to sign a disclaimer when I picked up my rig. I looked into it and according to a DMV Recreational Booklet/Guide....Class A, B & C licenses have tow weights associated with each. If I recall correct, Class C is only rated to 10.5k, and B to 16k +/- (I'll try to find that book & confirm), but I'm pretty sure we're all (me fo sho) open to a ticket from the man...and we all know they're looking for any reason at all to get some revenue!!!
L.R.S.
QUOTE (Bigboy @ Aug 27 2009, 10:26 PM) *
QUOTE (Headinjury @ Aug 25 2009, 02:23 PM) *
Nope... never been pulled over or weighed. As long as your Gross Weight isnt over the tire ratings on the coach, you are good to go.


First, I've heard the urban legends like everyone else and it's always a concern of mine. I talked to a guy in Glamis one time with a beast of a rig and he told me he got popped one time and it was a "fix it" for length, no impound or anything like that. He did say that he only runs at night now though...

Shawn,
I don't think this statement is really accurate. I mean you should know having sold them... but I know I had to sign a disclaimer when I picked up my rig. I looked into it and according to a DMV Recreational Booklet/Guide....Class A, B & C licenses have tow weights associated with each. If I recall correct, Class C is only rated to 10.5k, and B to 16k +/- (I'll try to find that book & confirm), but I'm pretty sure we're all (me fo sho) open to a ticket from the man...and we all know they're looking for any reason at all to get some revenue!!!

Straight from the California DMV site.


http://www.dmv.ca.gov/commercial/commercial.htm
SANDPSYCHO
QUOTE (Bigboy @ Aug 27 2009, 10:26 PM) *
QUOTE (Headinjury @ Aug 25 2009, 02:23 PM) *
Nope... never been pulled over or weighed. As long as your Gross Weight isnt over the tire ratings on the coach, you are good to go.


First, I've heard the urban legends like everyone else and it's always a concern of mine. I talked to a guy in Glamis one time with a beast of a rig and he told me he got popped one time and it was a "fix it" for length, no impound or anything like that. He did say that he only runs at night now though...

Shawn,
I don't think this statement is really accurate. I mean you should know having sold them... but I know I had to sign a disclaimer when I picked up my rig. I looked into it and according to a DMV Recreational Booklet/Guide....Class A, B & C licenses have tow weights associated with each. If I recall correct, Class C is only rated to 10.5k, and B to 16k +/- (I'll try to find that book & confirm), but I'm pretty sure we're all (me fo sho) open to a ticket from the man...and we all know they're looking for any reason at all to get some revenue!!!


Shawn’s correct about the gross weight of the vehicle. Licensing is a completely different area with regards to weight. If you operating in a commercial capacity then there are a lot of laws governing that but we are just talking about a private person driving an RV. In that scenario only you need to be properly licensed. Be it a class C, tow 10k(bumper pull) or 15k(5th wheel or goose neck) Max. Non Commercial class A you can exceed those weights. Length 65 ft max for any combination of vehicles. 75ft max Length if towing 2 trailers and neither trailer exceeds 28.5 ft, but you must have a Class A commercial license with the proper endorsements (and no the first trailer does not have to be a 5th wheel but the tow vehicle must be a truck and no an SUV is not a truck). You can’t get a doubles endorsement on a class A non-commercial. As to the max weight your talking some crazy high numbers, 80k total combined gross. So as long as you do not exceed the max load of your tires, you have the proper License, your not over Length, where your seat belt, stay off your cell phone, don’t speed and wait til you get there to have that beer, you’ll be fine. beer.gif
Headinjury
QUOTE (SANDPSYCHO @ Aug 28 2009, 10:43 AM) *
QUOTE (Bigboy @ Aug 27 2009, 10:26 PM) *
QUOTE (Headinjury @ Aug 25 2009, 02:23 PM) *
Nope... never been pulled over or weighed. As long as your Gross Weight isnt over the tire ratings on the coach, you are good to go.


First, I've heard the urban legends like everyone else and it's always a concern of mine. I talked to a guy in Glamis one time with a beast of a rig and he told me he got popped one time and it was a "fix it" for length, no impound or anything like that. He did say that he only runs at night now though...

Shawn,
I don't think this statement is really accurate. I mean you should know having sold them... but I know I had to sign a disclaimer when I picked up my rig. I looked into it and according to a DMV Recreational Booklet/Guide....Class A, B & C licenses have tow weights associated with each. If I recall correct, Class C is only rated to 10.5k, and B to 16k +/- (I'll try to find that book & confirm), but I'm pretty sure we're all (me fo sho) open to a ticket from the man...and we all know they're looking for any reason at all to get some revenue!!!


Brian, What are we doing with your Teryx? icon_biggrin.gif

Shawn’s correct about the gross weight of the vehicle. Licensing is a completely different area with regards to weight. If you operating in a commercial capacity then there are a lot of laws governing that but we are just talking about a private person driving an RV. In that scenario only you need to be properly licensed. Be it a class C, tow 10k(bumper pull) or 15k(5th wheel or goose neck) Max. Non Commercial class A you can exceed those weights. Length 65 ft max for any combination of vehicles. 75ft max Length if towing 2 trailers and neither trailer exceeds 28.5 ft, but you must have a Class A commercial license with the proper endorsements (and no the first trailer does not have to be a 5th wheel but the tow vehicle must be a truck and no an SUV is not a truck). You can’t get a doubles endorsement on a class A non-commercial. As to the max weight your talking some crazy high numbers, 80k total combined gross. So as long as you do not exceed the max load of your tires, you have the proper License, your not over Length, where your seat belt, stay off your cell phone, don’t speed and wait til you get there to have that beer, you’ll be fine. beer.gif



Thanks Psycho, I should have mentioned about having the proper class license. Well said... thumb.gif
Hero
Looks like anyone with a stacker needs to have a non commercial class A.
Does having that mean you can't go to traffic school?
L.R.S.
QUOTE (TCG @ Aug 28 2009, 11:44 AM) *
Looks like anyone with a stacker needs to have a non commercial class A.
Does having that mean you can't go to traffic school?

Far as I know you can still attend traffic school every 18 months unless it's changed since my last ticket 7 years ago. But commercial Class A is .04% for alcohol limit. I don't know if that is for Non commercial as well. I have a limit of .02% while I'm at work. Stupid DOT and their pipeline operator laws.
jackxclan
QUOTE (TCG @ Aug 28 2009, 11:44 AM) *
Looks like anyone with a stacker needs to have a non commercial class A.
Does having that mean you can't go to traffic school?

Commercial drivers cannot attend traffic school
mytyfast
Ive been to the side of the highway with chippy he checked registration of truck, toybox trailer, sandrail, arctic cat and insurance for the truck n trailer then wrote me for 8 mph over 55 speed limit. No scales involved he did check my Lic to make sure i had Class A as trailer GVW sticker shows over 10 k lbs, I was pulling with Chevy 2500HD diesel 4X4 crew cab long bed he had no issue with truck.
mytyfast
Bigboy
QUOTE (SANDPSYCHO @ Aug 28 2009, 10:43 AM) *
QUOTE (Bigboy @ Aug 27 2009, 10:26 PM) *
QUOTE (Headinjury @ Aug 25 2009, 02:23 PM) *
Nope... never been pulled over or weighed. As long as your Gross Weight isnt over the tire ratings on the coach, you are good to go.


First, I've heard the urban legends like everyone else and it's always a concern of mine. I talked to a guy in Glamis one time with a beast of a rig and he told me he got popped one time and it was a "fix it" for length, no impound or anything like that. He did say that he only runs at night now though...

Shawn,
I don't think this statement is really accurate. I mean you should know having sold them... but I know I had to sign a disclaimer when I picked up my rig. I looked into it and according to a DMV Recreational Booklet/Guide....Class A, B & C licenses have tow weights associated with each. If I recall correct, Class C is only rated to 10.5k, and B to 16k +/- (I'll try to find that book & confirm), but I'm pretty sure we're all (me fo sho) open to a ticket from the man...and we all know they're looking for any reason at all to get some revenue!!!


Shawn’s correct about the gross weight of the vehicle. Licensing is a completely different area with regards to weight. If you operating in a commercial capacity then there are a lot of laws governing that but we are just talking about a private person driving an RV. In that scenario only you need to be properly licensed. Be it a class C, tow 10k(bumper pull) or 15k(5th wheel or goose neck) Max. Non Commercial class A you can exceed those weights. Length 65 ft max for any combination of vehicles. 75ft max Length if towing 2 trailers and neither trailer exceeds 28.5 ft, but you must have a Class A commercial license with the proper endorsements (and no the first trailer does not have to be a 5th wheel but the tow vehicle must be a truck and no an SUV is not a truck). You can’t get a doubles endorsement on a class A non-commercial. As to the max weight your talking some crazy high numbers, 80k total combined gross. So as long as you do not exceed the max load of your tires, you have the proper License, your not over Length, where your seat belt, stay off your cell phone, don’t speed and wait til you get there to have that beer, you’ll be fine. beer.gif


Sweet! Thanks for the clarification... I'd never heard that deal about the tires and ratings till Shawn mentioned it, but like I said "he should know". I couldn't find that book, but according to your post I was pretty close on the weight deal just having gone off my lack of memory. Unfortunately, I still have a length issue, but I'm all about the beer where the road and the sand box comes together! beer.gif


Bigboy
Brian, What are we doing with your Teryx? icon_biggrin.gif

Shawn, gett'n close....SSSS?
Chris
mytyfast,
You were asked to open the toybox for them to check registration of vehicles inside? I was under the impression that they were not able to do that? Or at least you could refuse. Anyone have any info on that.

Thanks
MQUnlimited
QUOTE (Chris @ Sep 8 2009, 04:55 PM) *
mytyfast,
You were asked to open the toybox for them to check registration of vehicles inside? I was under the impression that they were not able to do that? Or at least you could refuse. Anyone have any info on that.

Thanks

X2 on that. I have never heard of them inspecting the registration of off-road vehicles, and especially inside a trailer.
L.R.S.
QUOTE (MQUnlimited @ Sep 8 2009, 05:00 PM) *
QUOTE (Chris @ Sep 8 2009, 04:55 PM) *
mytyfast,
You were asked to open the toybox for them to check registration of vehicles inside? I was under the impression that they were not able to do that? Or at least you could refuse. Anyone have any info on that.

Thanks

X2 on that. I have never heard of them inspecting the registration of off-road vehicles, and especially inside a trailer.

I've seen LEO's do that at Glamis, but this was many years ago and on a holiday weekend. I had 2 quads on an open flatbed and they waved me through.
charred1
Was pulled over a last season by a Chp DOT officer outside of Alpine. I wasn't speeding, officer said that he stopped me because my trailer had 3 axles which would indicate my trailer was probably close to the 10k law for a tag trailer and he wanted to make sure I had the correct license for my set up. Showed him my Class A and the weight sticker on the side of the trailer and that was it.
railjobz
having a non commercial licence is great but having abad attiude with the chp officer just gives him more reason to find something else
railjobz
play innocent and say i thouth i had it covered with the non commercial licence
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