I work late and get up late, maybe 10-11am. The dogs decide they want to bark for no reason, they bark about 8-11am just cause. Sometimes when the dog nextdoor is out. Has anyone tried the no bark collars or others that use the high frq noise that deter them from barking?

The Guys are Barking cause they are bored, Take em for a walk/run when you get home

zzzzz zzzzzzz

they are like your kids...you gonna chain your kids to the bed so you can sleep in?

just sayin

i use a bark collar one of my two dogs Emmy. she has had it forever! i used it during puppy training and she actually doesnt mind it when i put it on her. she just gets excited LIKE ALL CRITTERS DO and i cannot bear to spank her. the thing lets out a chirp when it gives her the little shock and its no different than wearing socks in the house, rubbing feet on the carpet and then touching metal. *zap* just enough to get their attn.

do what YOU feel is right. i highly doubt you would ever EVER chain up any family member of yours Ray. the collars run about $100 and up and the batteries last forever. if Nik were to put it on before she goes to sleep and then you take it off after you calm them down when you get home = should be fine.

best of luck.

I used both on my dog...the one that Zaps him with a "lil shock", It didnt work at all, i think his fur was to thick for him to actually feel it...

then i used the one that shoots a spray of "Centinela" up towards is snout when he barks...That worked GREAT, and seems a bit more Humane...

Barking completely stopped. Worked so well, that when i would pick up that spray collar and he would see it, he would lay on his back and put his paws in the air...as if to say..."ok i get...i'll be good"

I used them - hooked my bitches up to stop the random barking it worked. After awhile I took the battery out and put it on they never figured it out, Dogs are smart they know at two barks the zaps start so in the end I have two barkers!

hey Ray you shouldnt post what the wifey puts on you in the bedroom. that should stay in the bedroom.

never tryed any of the collers but the one that sprays sounds like it would work.

Tried the high pitch ones and it didn't work then we got the shock collar and that worked great. She only needed it for a few hours at first, now maybe once a month just to remind her.

They work on small children and drunks as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjhx9WfpofE

Go to 1:35 of the video for your answer.

Always happy to help.

abc

We tried the chirping ones, those did nothing. We now have shock collars on all the dogs, 2 jack russells and a yorkie. I tested them on myself before I put it on them. The wife got a kick out of that. They worked great, Our Jack Russels have figured out how to bark in a high pitch so not to set the things off... Those dogs are way too smart. Those collars quite possibly saved my marriage... They are my wifes ankle biters. I wish I had a real dog......

Rolled up newspaper and a smack on the nose is free.

Plus you get to decide if their barking is actually warrented vs a machine that teaches them not to bark at all...




We spank.
Kids, Pets, whomever gets outtaline in my house.

Let me explain what Ray didn't: He gets home from work around 2:30-3:00 a.m., after putting in a 12 hour shift. They get up when he gets home and chill with him for a 1/2 hour or so while he winds down. I get up at 5 or so to get the kiddos and I off to school when I'm not in school and at 4 or so when I am. When we leave, we have to put them out. They have plenty of toys, a big yard, and each other. Ray usually exercises them when he wakes up. There are some days that they are out on 2 nice long walks.

The guy has to sleep. He drives for a living and the dogs waking him at 8 a.m is no bueno.

I've asked the neighbors and they have said that they don't carry on like that when we aren't home, which leads me to believe they know Ray is inside and they want his attention. They also aren't horribly barky when we are all home and milling about the house. These are not dogs that are neglected or under exercised by any means.

I agree that they want attention. However, I can't quit my job and Ray can't change his hours so we're looking for something to help them not bark for the time they need to be outside.

I use a "field collar" that works very well. It is essentially a remote control shock collar. That way you decide when the dogs get zapped. It can be set up for multiple dogs each with their own button. I would not be inclined to use one that zapped every time he barked.

Now, I don't use it for barking, but if that were to become an issue I would. It has a variable adjustment for the intensity. It is very effective in "re focusing" the dog. IMO it is one of the best ways to train a dog in an "off leash" environment.

Now the big bugaboo question: Is it humane? I think so. More so than other forms of discipline. Used appropriately I see no issue with it.

The argument is a lot like should children be spanked?

Ray will need to bare through it for a while and hit'em with a squirt bottle or a newspaper to shut'em up.

Those collars are cruel to your animal, don't do it.

The newspaper works for about 10min until they bark again. And yes the dogs are our responsibility and maybe bare through it. But I do need sleep so that I can work to feed my family and the dogs and pay the bills. And have $$$ to goto G. Duh. Sleep also helps me stay awake at work at night so that I dont fall asleep at the wheel and injure anyone else. BTW, our 2nd dog was on the way to the pound, we were the last stop before there. Just trying to figure out the best situation Marcus.

Sure, I am game and open to debate. Curious as to why you say that?

I want to know the same thing.....

$30 at wal-mart for a bark collar. Just make shure its tight enough. It works wonders.

Those collars are not nearly as cruel to the dogs, as the barking is to the neighbors.

Are you ready for my Sister yet?

Depends....... Is she hot?

Love your pets too and Bark Busters

Go put one on and bark.

It eff*ing hurts like hell, I did it as a drunken party gag. And not in a funny hurt, like extremely painful hurt. Guys who have had severe fractures of their bones say they'd take a broken limb over than thing on them any day. We all thought it would be funny as hell and we'd get a little zap, the friend who had it on his 160lb mastiff threw it away after seeing our reactions. We were all heavier and bigger than that dog, not to mention we have thicker skin than dogs, so it must REALLY hurt that dog. If the dog yelps (or if you scream) the damn things just keep going.

Just a side note, we had it on the lower setting. And it's a dog, it doesn't understand WHY it's being zapped, it just knows it is and if it gets the wrong idea in it's head it can become paranoid over time. I've seen this happen to some dogs.

Not criticizing you, just saying dogs should be handled physically by the person rather than an electronic device.

If you must, the above mentioned remote you could hit when the dog actually barks may be fine, but not the automatic ones and get a smaller one than a bigger one. The heavy duty ones are good enough for a horse.

I can respect that. I have zapped myself as well to understand what the sensation was. Mine was less painful that what you describe. Might just be the brand. Also why I don't like the automatic ones. My Nephew tried an automatic one on his dog. Went like this:

Bark, shock, yelp, shock, yelp /run, shock / piss on floor, yelp /run, shock, yelp, shock. He had to catch the urine soaked dog and remove the collar to stop the insanity. That would be a problem.

So, stick with the remote control unit is my vote. Also I don't use it all the time and he never sleeps with it (Specifically, I never sleep when it is on him). It is a tool to ensure that there is a bit more control when he is off leash. And it is very effective in "re-focusing" a dog.

WrenchWench - Maybe the answer is to train them to a command - "quiet" with the remote unit?

I used the lemon spray one, and it was VERY effective, until my step daughter decided it was cruel... it does not hurt them in any way, it just redirects them. $50 at walmart.

I believe in keeping peace with neighbors and barking dogs are by far the most common complaint.

Have you tried walking them in the am when you get home, to help all of you unwind, and then crating them while you sleep?

John

Ok lets see if I get this right. The Dogs only bark because they know your home and there locked outside ??? DO you have a doggie door ??? Maybe if you let them come in and out of the house while your sleeping they would be more content to just lay down inside and take a nap.

I think crate training them would be most humane, and effective. The doggy door is a good idea as well, as long as you know they will not tear up your house.

I get home from work at 2:30 in the morning. I dont think the neighbors would care for that much.

I'm not going to say anything against the shock collars - we use them and they are very effective on our two boxers.

BUT I do understand where DMAX is coming from with the barking and trying to sleep. Titus (hubby) was on shift work for a long time. He'd still be sleeping when I'd leave in the morning.

We crate trained ours prior to the collars (different kind of training). The crate training is wonderful! We also have a dog door in our bedroom but dogs constantly coming in and out to check and see if you're up yet is way annoying! Our female does that and she sits by the bed and grunts until you acknowledge her.

So to solve our problem - I would put them in their crates when I left for work and they would be in their crates until Titus got up. Then he'd let them out, exercise and play with them and then he'd put them back in until I got home from work. The other benefit is that we've had two boxers and haven't lost a single shoe, sock or piece of furniture from chewing!!

We are now both on days and our two are out of the chewing phase so they aren't kenneled regularly anymore. However, they still go into their kennels to take naps and its nice when we have people over who are uncomfortable with the dogs etc that we can put them in there and they are perfectly calm and go to sleep.

Try the kennel thing. The only tough part is we started ours out in kennels immediately so they are used to them. Kenneling an older dog takes longer and they whine a lot more.

Oh and the bark collars - I've tried the bark collar - severly intoxicated of course - wasn't that bad - just enough to make you shut up. Our current collars are remote activated and have a "vibrate" option just like your cell so you don't even have to use the "shock". That's all we use anymore and there are no issues.

Long story short - try the kennels.

this is exactly what I was thinking. I had 2 shock collars for my lab because when we weren't at home sometimes she would start barking and not stop (outside). neither one did a thing.

Ray you should get up every 10 min and squirt them or hit em with the newspaper

Seems to me the light bzzzzz from a collar or the citronella spray from the collar is more humane than hitting them
with a newpaper or spraying water in their face.

Fine, then don't invite them if they are gonna be that way?

Seriously tho, what do the neighbors have to do with walking them? Walking is silent and personal between you and your dogs.

John

We have alot of outside dogs in the neighborhood, so if I walk them at 2-3 in the morning I will have a neighborhood full of barking dogs. Not good.

For everyone else great ideas. Sometimes I bring them in the bedroom to take a nap to find out they want back out 30min later. Oh well they are still pups. So far the little tap on the nose has been working. Thanks everyone for all the input.

Tri-Tronics Sport Basic G3 works wonders. It has the ability to control 3 dogs. It has 2 modes, 10 shock levels, and a buzz button which is no more than a tone. Once they get used to the collar and low shock settings when told what to do the tone will be plenty. Definately start with the low shock setting so it doesn't freak them out.

My dog acually gets excited when I take the collar off the charger.

J

This is more of a training collar, but comes in handy for obedience and the dogs safety - (like running out in the street or in front of buggy's or quads)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWDtCxYLdQs

I thought of this thread when I saw that!!