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LeetGlamisRyder
[COLOR=red] [B] What will win a stock YFZ450 or a stock Banshee? im hearing the Yfz will win but its kinda hard to believe bandit.gif
SHOCKER
Im going to go with the yfz 450
Rubberneck
STOCK, I'll go with the banshee. Although the YFZ's are nice bikes! I'd take a stock YFZ over a stock banshee but in a drag race stock vs. stock I'd have to take the banshee.
Shovel Boy
ive seen a YFZ beat a moded shee, but i dont know if the YFZ was moded or not =/ it was a DADDOG video
Rubberneck
If it was a moded shee the YFZ was modified too.
SHOCKER
It also depends on the rider
Danger
Whoever spent the most money on their suspension. Underated for sure. And the rider.
SHOCKER
We are talking straight stock bikes, nothing done to them taken out from the dealer and put on the road and raced, sorry if i sound mean icon_smile.gif
Shovel Boy
yfz
24v
Definetly the yfz if stock for stock on flat ground.
Yamiboy
the banshee will beat it through the gears but once the 450 gets on it the 450 will pull ahead. two strokes are quicker but four strokes are faster. there is a difference.
Rubberneck
My two stroke is quicker and faster. icon_biggrin.gif
SHOCKER
You kx500, i think thats what you have :?:
Screamin Ian
How long of a strip? Lots of key factors, I am gonna go out on a limb here and say the YFZ will take a banshee on anything over 1/8 of a mile, My bro on his YFZ, was eating up banshees at the drags at Glamis when we were there a month ago, granted his is slightly modified, but the bikes we was racing did have pipes and ???, its still comparing apples to oranges. and I still say just because its faster in a straight line, doesnt mean its the best quad, guess that is why top fuel dragsters dont race Baja. blink.gif
Rubberneck
Screamin Ian hit the nail on the head. Distance is a huge factor. Personally, if I didn't have toys I'd take any quad. You can have fun on anything.
lbz duner
Both with pipes and intake and jetting mods the 450 will win hands down. The problem is very few people had just that on their banshees. My brother has a piped banshee with a milled head and we're neck and neck and we weigh about the same.
PimpShackDave
Short course - always the 'shee. Stock on stock, longer race, YFZ. Modded on modded, I like the 'shee again. Granted I only own one, so my opinion is biased...
SanDollars
QUOTE (LeetGlamisRyder @ Apr 5 2004, 06:20 PM)
[COLOR=red] [B] What will win a stock YFZ450 or a stock Banshee? im hearing the Yfz will win but its kinda hard to believe bandit.gif

Done it several times. The YFZ will win hands down in a drag on the flats. Banshee kicks up the hills. Not my opinion but my EXPERIENCE...... even swapped bikes and tried again with same results.. The YFZ wins in a flat drag. ph34r.gif
rivermobster
the question was about stock bikes...right?

a stock shee is a slug!!! i beat a friends shee on my Z...shesh!

i also have a friend with a yfz that would smoke ME real bad in a race.

so from my experience here...ill say the yfz

stock for stock anyway icon_cool.gif


jus courious......why are you asking this question??? (it really is comparing apples and oranges)
HA2
banshees are pretty tame stock. soon as u hang pipes on one and other basic bolt ons with some good porting theyre rocket ships. i hate stating the truth about this because im a honda guy, but the banshee is king of the hill.
MWBbanshee
24V 's 450 is not stock and my Banshee is not stock I get to the top of the hill first icon_biggrin.gif

Through the woops I own him but what ever distance there is between us after the woops is the same distance there is at the top icon_wink.gif

Stock to stock the 450 is going to win no doubt about it short or long runs but through the same $ at them and you have a new winner icon_biggrin.gif
PimpShackDave
QUOTE (MWBbanshee @ Apr 6 2004, 02:40 PM)
Stock to stock the 450 is going to win no doubt about it short or long runs but through the same $ at them and you have a new winner icon_biggrin.gif

That's all there is to be said. 25cheers.gif But as others said, this is a pretty asinine comparison...
big had
guys, don't you read all the reports in any of the ATV mags....in the straights, through the whoops, short track, long track, flat out...the YFZ straight up puts a can of whoop arsk on the Banshee...no opinion here...just what I have read....my personal opinion...I have seen the stock one beat piped banshees at Glamis....within my group.....weight and experience about same on both riders...the banshee guy couldn't beleive it, so he raced against his own bike (they switched) and still beat his Banshee.....now..if they would only make the YFZ a little bigger for us tall guys.....
A-Dare
A friend of mine has a stock banshee, and he was runnig side by side with a 400ex with just a pipe (up test hill at gordon's). Another friend bought a new 450 and raced a stock z400 with paddles (450 still on knobbies) up patton and kicked the crap outta him, and the z will beat a 400ex, hence my oppinion is it will beat shee. Now a banshee with pipes and a rejet, will give the yfz a run for it's money, but the 450 is considerably lighter at 350lbs to the shee's 386lbs. I dunno the hp output of the shee stock, but the 450 is supposedly over 40hp.
YFZ4KT
YFZ.............
LeetGlamisRyder
hmmm *rubs chin* imagine a twin 450 bandit.gif
24v
QUOTE (MWBbanshee @ Apr 6 2004, 02:40 PM)


Stock to stock the 450 is going to win no doubt about it short or long runs but through the same $ at them and you have a new winner icon_biggrin.gif

So, do tell, how much money in mods have you done to the Banshee? Not counting tires, or cosmetics, just go fast. Because our bikes are pretty even in my mind. Our riding skill is not, which is totally why you prevail when we race. I'm at right around $700 with no deals, just paying full price for parts. I am curious to see how they compare $ for $.
LeetGlamisRyder
no mods just stock and stock bandit.gif
memo
i know that a stock yfz 450 will smoke a stock banshee i have seen and done it many times flat or on the hills and anybody that has ridden a stock banshee knows they are actually slow
HA2
who worries about racing stock anything in glamis?
PimpShackDave
Stock 'shees are absolute dogs, hardly faster than a 400 thumper. Minimal modding (pipe/filter/jet) is a night/day difference, though.
2far2Glamis
Anything stock sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PimpShackDave
I've seen some (supposedly) stock 450's, and they seem to hang well enough...
RRon3
QUOTE (PimpShackDave @ Apr 7 2004, 10:11 AM)
Stock 'shees are absolute dogs, hardly faster than a 400 thumper. Minimal modding (pipe/filter/jet) is a night/day difference, though.

I disagree on this one, I used to beat stock 400's as well as modded 400's on Carrie's stock banshee. The 450's I don't know.
HozaykwAIRvo
QUOTE (2Glamis @ Apr 7 2004, 11:37 AM)
Anything stock sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I added a 6pack rack to my ride.... does that count? laughing.gif stock 48hp ain't bad
Bronc-O-Boy11
YFZ.....but then again....at the end of the day ya'll sit down by the fire and enjoy the fire and the company....RIGHT??...does it matter who finished their beer first or because he was driking coors light and i was drinking bud that's why he beat me to the bottom of the can??!!??
OK, enough beer.gif beer.gif for me tonight....i'm babbling now.
sheesh rolleyes.gif
SHOCKER
Last year in dirt wheels they had that aprils fools joke, an \d they said honda came out with a 3 cylinder bike that had a jetski front hood, it looked kind of cool, and in the issus following that one people replied in the letters that they were so excited and they sold there quads to get one icon_smile.gif
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