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jdubrr
I have a WW LED 3505 with a 12 ft garage, and i need to make room for a sandrail. I spoke with Warrior lifestyle and they were very helpful, but very booked and said it wouldn't be done for 2-3 weeks. I am planning a trip to glamis for feb 19th so I don't want to take in it yet. So my question(s) are: has anyone taken down their garage wall to make more room before? There is also a loft bed above the garage and warrior lifstyle said they think it can stay when the wall comes down. I plan to start taking down the wall and detach the furniture from the inside as well this weekend and any tips or advice would be appreciated! I've included pix for reference
rbjcampi
do you have to remove the entire wall? would it be possible to just remove the door then widen where the door was enough to fit the engine cage through it? I would think that would be the easiest/safest way to also keep the loft bed
rbjcampi
something like this (red being framing, white = open space)

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Oldman
If you take the door out and all the trim around the door,floor and ceiling. Then you should be able to remove the paneling. I would do the garage side first. Get a thick putty knife and side it in along the door framing. If you are lucky maybe they did not glue the inside paneling to the studs. I have a set of scraping tools I bought from Harbor Freight. The long one is about 12" long and if the paneling is just nailed this should help you pry the paneling off the staples. Take your time and don't get frustrated. Frustrated equals damage.
jdubrr
QUOTE (Oldman @ Feb 11 2010, 05:42 PM) *
If you take the door out and all the trim around the door,floor and ceiling. Then you should be able to remove the paneling. I would do the garage side first. Get a thick putty knife and side it in along the door framing. If you are lucky maybe they did not glue the inside paneling to the studs. I have a set of scraping tools I bought from Harbor Freight. The long one is about 12" long and if the paneling is just nailed this should help you pry the paneling off the staples. Take your time and don't get frustrated. Frustrated equals damage.



Thanks for the tips. I do have a pry bar and plan to start garage side first. Warrior lifstyle said they can fix whatever I cut out to make it look like it came from the factory that way.

rbjcampi- i will have to remove more than what you have outlined as the front of the sand rail is +/- 93".
Oldman
I have removed wheel wells in 2 trailers and modified them and 1 cabinet. With the wheel wells and cabinet they were screwed in from the outside. I cut the wood frames by each nail then used channel locks to break the wood from around the nails. I used linemen pliers to cut the screws short then pushed the rest inside the wall.
Oldman
Have you started the project?
MQUnlimited
Sounds like a interesting challenge to be done in a week....have you started? pics?
whipkiller
Piece of cake
TACO
I would be a little cautious especially with that bed being overhead. You may want to beef up the header across the bottom to carry the load of the bed and people climbing in and out. I would bet the styles (sides) of the door frame were designed to not only support the door, but the weight of the bed above. If you don't replace the support its going to sag when people get on it.

1tonfun
QUOTE (whipkiller @ Feb 15 2010, 02:41 PM) *

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For that matter, someone here on Glamis Dunes has a dad who is a tv repair man with a bitchen set of tools who can do about anything.
Headinjury
QUOTE (whipkiller @ Feb 15 2010, 01:41 PM) *



laugh1.gif Ive used that idea to close a deal or two in my time...
PetesZ400
QUOTE (jdubrr @ Feb 11 2010, 06:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Oldman @ Feb 11 2010, 05:42 PM) *
If you take the door out and all the trim around the door,floor and ceiling. Then you should be able to remove the paneling. I would do the garage side first. Get a thick putty knife and side it in along the door framing. If you are lucky maybe they did not glue the inside paneling to the studs. I have a set of scraping tools I bought from Harbor Freight. The long one is about 12" long and if the paneling is just nailed this should help you pry the paneling off the staples. Take your time and don't get frustrated. Frustrated equals damage.



Thanks for the tips. I do have a pry bar and plan to start garage side first. Warrior lifstyle said they can fix whatever I cut out to make it look like it came from the factory that way.

rbjcampi- i will have to remove more than what you have outlined as the front of the sand rail is +/- 93".



If you have to take more than what was outlined, then won't the slide out and couch be in the way?
jdubrr
The wall is now gone. It wasn't actually that hard. The hardest part was trying to remove the ONE screw that held each of the couchs to their respective walls. It was screwed in from the outside, so I had to cut it off with a sawzall (between the couch and the wall). The loft bed does flex a bit when I hang on it (I'm only 160lbs) so i will reinforce it in the future. It took probably a total of 5 hours or so on saturday. It still needs some finishing touches but for now it'll work
WHAT'S NEXT?
Nice job! Nothing like cutting up a $60k trailer for your weekend project. tongue.gif
J Alper
what about having a wall that flips down? it can attache to the top by a hinge.
Ocotillo Boy
Did you do this in such a way it could be put back without a trace??
MQUnlimited
How much extra room do you have now?
dbart
QUOTE (jalper @ Mar 26 2010, 09:45 PM) *
what about having a wall that flips down? it can attache to the top by a hinge.


the Enduramax trailer has a folding wall. Pretty cool I think.

http://www.gulfstreamrvtrailers.com/gs/ind...ver_Toy_Haulers

jdubrr
QUOTE (MQUnlimited @ Mar 27 2010, 02:13 AM) *
How much extra room do you have now?


There is now almost 17ft from the counter to the back wall. I looked at trading it in for a non garage model, but that wasn't going to work. Unless I win the lotto I'm keeping this for a long, long time. All that matters now is that my sand rail fits 1dude.gif
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