Admittedly driving the car hard this past weekend as it seemed the more speed I carried the chopped up dunes felt smother Pretty much did everything I asked of it (car and trans) during some hard rides and then when I was in a fairly minor transition I just lost all gears. I thought maybe I had bumped it out of gear, althought that's never happened before.

I can put the car in any gear with no clutch and the car doesn't move. There are no noises when doing this and the axles are not moving. There was a small clunk type noise when it happened which made me think I had bumped it out of gear under load. Looking for what your opinion might be as to what happened so I can start convincing the wife we NEED this to get fixed now.

Thanks in advance.

Clutch went

Sounds dumb, but are you sure its not a problem with the clutch. Just wishful thinking for ya.

My tranny broke Friday Presidents Day Weekend. I pulled the motor and tranny out this Wednesday night and it's already at AZ Transaxles... FIX IT NOW, plenty of season left!

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Same thing happened to my buddy last season

or imput shaft is broken..

Have you physically checked and verified that you did not break and axle?

I hope it is the clutch! But would that just all of a sudden let go with no advance warning. I mean no slipping or smell or anything? I can put the car in gear with out the clutch pushed and nothing happens, no matter what the rpm. The clutch and pressure plate were new this season and I checked the adjustment pretty frequently. I am running a Kennedy Stage III with a 6 puck. Also running a G50 input shaft, is it common for these to break?

Please be the clutch
Please be the clutch
Please be the clutch
Please be the clutch

They don't always pop out of the CV boot btw....

My buddy packed up and left Ocotillo and drove all the way to Apple Valley and his builder reached down and grabbed an axle and it popped out of the boot.

You will not have any gears or movement or zippo with a broken axle...

I don't know if it is common or not, but that is my guess. Snapped the imput shaft.. you heard it here first

I did check that both axles plunged normally, is there some other way of checking? I did break a star on the passenger side outside CV on Saturday and replaced that. Car ran fine for several runs prior to this and after CV fix.

Quanto Dineros??? How much to fix if it's the input shaft?

give em a good tug up, down, back , forth etc etc. Cant hurt nothin

I'm thinkin' I'm not going to be able to make mine look like that one of yours did a couple months ago by hand

I'm thinking input shaft. Dunno price but be prepaid for a new Ring&Pinion while it's apart and toss in another grand for misc parts and labor.

Let me know if you need me to take care of it for you.

Thanks for SoCalDmax for a steller tow!

if you can put it in gear with no clutch pedal being pushed and there is no noises then could be:
clutch- center broke,pressure plate lost its tension.
inputshaft- I dought you broke the g50 Porsche style inputshaft
more than likely the clip from the coupler fell off and the inputshaft is disconnected.

come on kev get that thing fixed for next weekend 26th free beer that weekend for ya

Devon , thats gonna cost ya some major

Get it out, and bring it to me and I can get it done A.S.A.P.

Just having to spend $2800 on my trans this season hope it's the slave or input shaft.

i had that exact same thing happen to me on my fifth trip out in my car when it was brand new. it ended up being the pinon shaft had broken at the weld where mendiola welds the shaft to the pinion gear. mendiola warrantyed the shaft and replaced it with a new one for free. i only had to pay the builder the tear down and put back together fee which i think was $450. i ran it for two seasons then replaced it last year with the weddle ring and pinon which uses a solid pinion shaft instead of welding one together. the total price for all seals, bearings and a new ring and pinon with labor costs was i think like $2500 bucks. Good Luck.

main shaft...

I would put money down that it is the pinion shaft the 2 piece was the dumbest thing ever invented (not a slam on mendi just the engineer) upgrade to the weddle now.

Already has the Weddle Ring and Pinion...

I will try to get it out as soon as I can. Have to work this Sat. and Sun., doesn't leave much time to get it done

Thanks everyone for the help on this.

Hell Yeah Steve!!!

Don't know if ya'll caught this in GC, so here it is...

http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index....howtopic=200001

This same thing just happened to my buddy Pres. weekend. He described exactly what happened when my welded pinion shaft broke. My buddies was pulled apart (Mind you, it was supposed to have the Weddle R&P) and no Weddle, and a broken Ring & Pinion. He didn't get the upgrade that was paid for!! I think that was very wrong of the builder!!

Trans was done by Wright, I am going to assumne it was done right hopefully get it apart this week and see what's up.

If you need someone to do this we have a service facility as well that can help in the extraction.
This goes out to anyone else as well, we do have a capable San Diego service center.

Sounds like what happened to me when I broke my pinion gears. I was at the bottom of a hill, hit the gas, and "POP" it felt like it just popped out of gear.

I would like to ask you why you guys are more than some of your vendor's? I got a price from you guys and you were two to three hundred more than where I selected to take mine and I am local. I know parts are parts just wondering why your labor for tear down would be more?

That was my initial thought, we'll see here in a few days...

Update???

I was going to pull it yesterday but it rained and I couldn't move stuff in the garage out So I just worked on the bike that's in the other garage that needs to leave so the new BFD can get in there!!! Hopefully this week, need it together before the regatta. Will update as soon as I find something.

Take it to Adam or Rick at Hugos (powerbox) in Encinitas..

They will do you right no BS, and good QUALITY work.

PM me if you need a number.

UPDATE-

It is not the clutch. Although I was hoping it was, praying actually, the clutch looks fine. I did however find the source of the pesky oil leak I've been chasing. I thought it was the pan gasket of the new GTO oil pan I put on, but it appears to be a rear main, a little wet inside the clutch housing, although the clutch itself go no oil on it.


So............. Its back to the garage to pull the trans

wtf !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trans was dropped off at Transworks today. Having Erick do the Transworks mainshaft bearing upgrade while it's there. He's gonna let me know in a couple days what the verdict is and what the damage is going to be.

We are all waiting! I have money on the R&P.

Sorry, I missed this and flaked on an answer.
The reason we are more is we go further than just pull down and put back together.
I upgrade possible future problems with drivers bad habits by evaluating the gear box piece by piece.
I will council the customer with any issues that they may have with the gearbox or vehicle.
I feel this is worth more in the service end, due to so many miss-matched customers to gear boxes I find out there.

Well, it has been more than a couple of days!! What's the verdict? Inquiring minds want to know.....

im going to change my guess to input shaft...

Sorry guys, I was gone all weekend for the Regatta and just got home yesterday. Eric (Transworks)had called on Friday to let me know what was up and I called him today and got the verdict.....







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edited...US GEAR - Pinion Gear sheared off the shaft


Eric said it was pretty rare for one of these to let go, so in goes the Weddle. Also going to replace a couple gears that look suspect and anything else that may need it as long as he's in there, not a cheap fix, so she's probably down for rest of the season even though that was only going to be a couple more trips it still sucks. Oh well, as Eric told me there won't be anything left to upgrade in this 2D so we'll see how long it lasts.

OK, define how the pinion shaft head sheared? From what you are describing it sounds as though the pinion gear broke teeth off of it and also tore up the ring gear. If this is what happened you would not have had a situation where it just felt like it popped out of gear and was in neutral, you would have had one hell of a violent bang and alot of jerking and LOUD noise as it cleaned off the teeth on the pinion gear and some of the ring gear. How about some pictures so we can all learn something. Should have added that it sounds as though it broke where it was welded.

that is the same exact thing that happened to mine. i heard it is not that rare from my tranny builder.

Haven't seen it in person yet, I was going to stop by after work but got out late. From what I understand from Eric it was not a "spliced" pinion gear. It was the one piece US Gear and it snapped the head of it off like a chicken

He did say it happens just not as frequently as the welded version...

Popped like a barbie doll head!

He also said your 4th gear was installed backwards.

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Ouch!! Thats some twist and break.

how much horsepower are you running in your car? i have a 2D and was thinking about getting my motor stroked to a 383 by CBM in the off season but i dont want to have to worry about the tranny all the time.

Thanks for the pics Mike! I still haven't had a chance to get by there yet, been working OT so I can pay Eric MAn what a clean break, no wonder I didn't really hear anything significant. You were there and we weren't running hard at all when it happened, not that we weren't earlier but

sand phene, I have a 450 LS1, but for whatever reason it runs REALLY well, maybe a Wednesday motor, With what is being installed I wouldn't hesitate to make mine a stroker...