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sanduras
far as i can remember. the sandrails have been doing wheelies since this whole sport has evolved. ill bet people have pics of old old school rails doing wheelies. it is a rush. and people like to watch it. ever see dirty bob in the e ticket ride with the wiley coyote in his front pass. seat. he would wheelie all over the place in the late 70s and 80s. glamis and wheelies one in the same
hillgraphics
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QUOTE (Mongo @ Feb 24 2010, 03:36 PM) *
Wheelies, jumps, handfull of turning brake, aux rev limiter wife.gif screaming, donuts, jack daniels, sobe bombs fireworks, porn, etc.


There is a time and a place for everything. Use a spotter, wear a seat belt, brush twice a day and floss, blah blah blah.

Sometimes its safe to wheelie, jump, slide, whatever. Sometimes its not. We all make mistakes and make some stupid decisions. But just 'cause you have tons of cash or no cash, major HP or only 651hp, it doesnt mean you have tons of brains or restraint or common sense or talent.


Do what makes you happy, when it makes you happy. All I ask is you think first and dont be a tool near me and my family!


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Rockwood
I used to enjoy wheelies, until it took almost the entirety of Olds to pass my buddy's 2276 VW buggy because I couldn't pin it. Then, I started changing things... icon_biggrin.gif
railjobz
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QUOTE (WildBill @ Feb 24 2010, 03:12 PM) *
Tampon anyone?

justdirt
Then it's official as of march 1 2010 no more paddles on sandrails 1cheff.gif
sanduras
is it weird that a guy starts a post and gets 3 pages in a couple hours and doesnt respond to any of the posts.is it summer already. just wondering 1cheff.gif






















surf and dune
I'm going surfing, you guys keep it up so I have something to read when I get home.
Deanasaurus
QUOTE (hillgraphics @ Feb 24 2010, 03:14 PM) *
QUOTE (Deanasaurus @ Feb 24 2010, 03:09 PM) *
QUOTE (hillgraphics @ Feb 24 2010, 02:30 PM) *
if you can do a wheelie you have way to much horsepower for the sand.. or your car is set up totally wrong... your out there to dune... run the bowls.. its not about wheelies or sand drags.. those two thing have the most brakes and rollovers ..

my .02



Nonsence - I wheelie all over Glamis and my car is set up perfect and does not have too much HP.



so your telling me when you stab the throttle your wheels stay on the ground??



Absolutely..... And I never side step the clutch..... that is where the before mentioned talent comes in. It is a beautiful thing....
Actually - not my car anymore - sold last week..... new owner is probably wondering why he can not wheelie it as we speak.
ONE-A-DAY
Nail the gas and yank on the steering wheel, nothing to it.
charred1
Repost, but is fitting. Sorry...no volume.
8itagain
Wow ... wheelies are a blast, take talent to sustain, take balls, can be done in a very capable and fast "dune" car ... and the chicks dig it!!!
This just reminds me of the guy that's broke and preaches how many can't buy you happiness. Been broke and been rich ... I am happy with money!
Just cause you can't get your nose in the air don't hate me.

here's a short vid ... spotter top and mid hill ... controlled throttle, no clutch and use of t-brakes


Click to view attachment
duneflyer
Sooo are we allowed to dune fast and do a wheelie? For those of you that think doing wheelies is not duning, have you ever been haulin azz thru the dunes at say 60-70mph banking a turn while in a wheelie drifting a bit at the same time, badd azz feeling for sure right there. Try it some time and you will probaly change your style of dunning so you can do it more often. Now you dont do this kinda stuff at Olds, but out in the open dunes when all is clear is the best. Driving like this is dangerous and I could hurt somebody for sure but it would most likely be me and my car that I hurt. Kinda silly topic for sure.
ChuckZilla
I'm not sure that if I had a rail I would do them, but I've been doing them since I was a kid on bicycles and I constantly do them on my quad (short that they are). I think rail wheelies are cool in that, if you had a 600 hp street car and so much as chirped the tires hard in 2nd, you could get an exhibition of speed ticket, yet in the sand/dirt you can do anything you want. Whenever I see a high horsepower street car I think to myself "the poor owner never gets to hear or feel his car at anything more than just above idle, what a waste", all the while the sand guys are going crazy with their cars singing the rev limiter song tongue.gif ..............If you got the power do it, just be safe about it.
ONE-A-DAY
QUOTE (duneflyer @ Feb 24 2010, 05:26 PM) *
Sooo are we allowed to dune fast and do a wheelie? For those of you that think doing wheelies is not duning, have you ever been haulin azz thru the dunes at say 60-70mph banking a turn while in a wheelie drifting a bit at the same time, badd azz feeling for sure right there. Try it some time and you will probaly change your style of dunning so you can do it more often. Now you dont do this kinda stuff at Olds, but out in the open dunes when all is clear is the best. Driving like this is dangerous and I could hurt somebody for sure but it would most likely be me and my car that I hurt. Kinda silly topic for sure.


You forgot........"Turn Around Bright Eyes" cranking in your headsets
hillgraphics
QUOTE (charred1 @ Feb 24 2010, 05:06 PM) *
Repost, but is fitting. Sorry...no volume.


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that is just sad to see... exactally what we are all talking about.. SAD..
Ocotillo Boy
Here's a video of my first wheelie!!! yay.gif


OB's first wheelie
charred1
QUOTE (Ocotillo Boy @ Feb 24 2010, 05:31 PM) *
Here's a video of my first wheelie!!! yay.gif


OB's first wheelie


Link didn't work again, OB! Maybe it will work on the next thread. tongue.gif
ONE-A-DAY
QUOTE (Ocotillo Boy @ Feb 24 2010, 05:31 PM) *
Here's a video of my first wheelie!!! yay.gif


OB's first wheelie


foker
dbart
QUOTE (Ocotillo Boy @ Feb 24 2010, 05:31 PM) *
Here's a video of my first wheelie!!! yay.gif


OB's first wheelie


Dang YOU!!!! I KNEW it and still clicked on it.
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badgas
QUOTE (Ocotillo Boy @ Feb 24 2010, 05:31 PM) *
Here's a video of my first wheelie!!! yay.gif


OB's first wheelie



HAHAHA

that's the best post all day...stop this thread right now.......sweet !
jdubrr
QUOTE (Deanasaurus @ Feb 24 2010, 04:55 PM) *
QUOTE (hillgraphics @ Feb 24 2010, 03:14 PM) *
QUOTE (Deanasaurus @ Feb 24 2010, 03:09 PM) *
QUOTE (hillgraphics @ Feb 24 2010, 02:30 PM) *
if you can do a wheelie you have way to much horsepower for the sand.. or your car is set up totally wrong... your out there to dune... run the bowls.. its not about wheelies or sand drags.. those two thing have the most brakes and rollovers ..

my .02



Nonsence - I wheelie all over Glamis and my car is set up perfect and does not have too much HP.



so your telling me when you stab the throttle your wheels stay on the ground??



Absolutely..... And I never side step the clutch..... that is where the before mentioned talent comes in. It is a beautiful thing....
Actually - not my car anymore - sold last week..... new owner is probably wondering why he can not wheelie it as we speak.

lol..yes it's my car now. And I haven't tried to do wheelies...yet
CHIZZLE
QUOTE (Mongo @ Feb 24 2010, 04:36 PM) *
Wheelies, jumps, handfull of turning brake, aux rev limiter wife.gif screaming, donuts, jack daniels, sobe bombs fireworks, porn, etc.


There is a time and a place for everything. Use a spotter, wear a seat belt, brush twice a day and floss, blah blah blah.

Sometimes its safe to wheelie, jump, slide, whatever. Sometimes its not. We all make mistakes and make some stupid decisions. But just 'cause you have tons of cash or no cash, major HP or only 651hp, it doesnt mean you have tons of brains or restraint or common sense or talent.


Do what makes you happy, when it makes you happy. All I ask is you think first and dont be a tool near me and my family!

Exactly!

QUOTE (TNTDUNER @ Feb 24 2010, 05:58 PM) *
Nail the gas and yank on the steering wheel, nothing to it.

That's funny!

QUOTE (duneflyer @ Feb 24 2010, 06:26 PM) *
Sooo are we allowed to dune fast and do a wheelie? For those of you that think doing wheelies is not duning, have you ever been haulin azz thru the dunes at say 60-70mph banking a turn while in a wheelie drifting a bit at the same time, badd azz feeling for sure right there. Try it some time and you will probaly change your style of dunning so you can do it more often. Now you dont do this kinda stuff at Olds, but out in the open dunes when all is clear is the best. Driving like this is dangerous and I could hurt somebody for sure but it would most likely be me and my car that I hurt. Kinda silly topic for sure.

Hmmm, I'd like to see that.
BansheeBoy914
Personally, I like wheelies. When in the appropriate environment. I think it's stupid to do huge side hill wheelies on olds during a big weekend or to do them if you don't have enough experience and don't know what you're doing, but when in the right place at the right time, they are a lot of fun. I enjoy trying to hit a roller just right and carry the front just a couple feet off the ground for a while as long as there isn't anyone else around for me to hit. I also enjoy watching the guys at the drags who have enough skill to carry it the length of the drags without touching down or dragging the back end.

As long as no one is getting hurt, I figure it's all just in good fun.

but then again, I have a mini truck with a stereo system too.... and I like it thumb.gif
WildBill
Fun!
John@Outfront Mtrsprts
QUOTE (duneflyer @ Feb 24 2010, 05:26 PM) *
Sooo are we allowed to dune fast and do a wheelie? For those of you that think doing wheelies is not duning, have you ever been haulin azz thru the dunes at say 60-70mph banking a turn while in a wheelie drifting a bit at the same time, badd azz feeling for sure right there. Try it some time and you will probaly change your style of dunning so you can do it more often. Now you dont do this kinda stuff at Olds, but out in the open dunes when all is clear is the best. Driving like this is dangerous and I could hurt somebody for sure but it would most likely be me and my car that I hurt. Kinda silly topic for sure.



I'll be doing that on the 5 and 6th of March tongue.gif Pat are you going to be there too?
WildBill
Oh no!
John@Outfront Mtrsprts
QUOTE (WildBill @ Feb 24 2010, 06:55 PM) *


Nice video.....That get the blood pumping!!
reflexx
WOW! I was expecting some opinions, but not this much!

I'll clarify what I meant by "Wheelie (see video of silver car above)

1. Rail at a 45 degree angle, scraping the skid-plate.

2. Where the driver clearly cannot see where they are going.

3. doing it in a crowded place, for the wow factor.

4. When your car comes down on unknown terrain and bottoms out, causing a potential loss of control.


What a wheelie is not:

1. when you apply full power and your car squats, thereby lifting the front wheels 12-18 inches. (sample picture supplied by wildbill, above)

2. When coming down from a wheelie will not cause your suspension to bottom (or adding power to avoid bottoming)

3. you can see where you are going.

4. when you launch of a bump/jump and you rears touch first and you carry the power for a while.

5. Where there are not bystanders, other vehicles you can hit under any circumstances.

and some notes:
1. I an certainly AGAINST ANY law/rules/regulations for our sport/hobby. Self regulation is best, keep the few from ruining it for the many. Shaming / mocking works well.

2. My fear is that reckless, unnecessary accidents/deaths will eventually bring out the lawyers and then we'll have to have asinine rules and regulations. It made Big Bear shut down Downhill MTB riding, many skydiving drop-zones axed because of reckless jumpers, etc, etc...

3. As for me not posting since starting this thread......I was driving home.

4. BTW, I love Funcos (mini-van look and all).

4. tampons? really?

5. and in all honesty, I don't give a chit if you hurt yourself doing wheelies. I'm concerned for your passengers, family and those innocent bystanders. I'm not a safety-nazi. Go kill yourself if you want, just keep it a solo event.


and again a big "IMHO!"
Havaduner
I like doing wheelies, and I have been known to do them at Olds, Usually on a Sunday or Monday, off to one side where nobody is at.
Now heres a question for those that feel that all 4 wheels should stay on the ground. If you see me doing a wheelie, do you steer towards me, or away from me? I understand that with the front end in the air, I am not in "complete control" and my vision is limited, but if I am off to an area somewhat by myself, why do you feel compelled to run the same part of the hill, or the same bowl as me?
WildBill
QUOTE (WildBill @ Feb 24 2010, 07:02 PM) *
Check out the :49 second frame, what is the guy doing by his car?
reflexx
QUOTE (Havaduner @ Feb 24 2010, 07:20 PM) *
I like doing wheelies, and I have been known to do them at Olds, Usually on a Sunday or Monday, off to one side where nobody is at.
Now heres a question for those that feel that all 4 wheels should stay on the ground. If you see me doing a wheelie, do you steer towards me, or away from me? I understand that with the front end in the air, I am not in "complete control" and my vision is limited, but if I am off to an area somewhat by myself, why do you feel compelled to run the same part of the hill, or the same bowl as me?


It's just impossible to tell which way a car will go when it all goes bad. So I'd stay as far away as possible.
peak-j
QUOTE (Havaduner @ Feb 24 2010, 07:20 PM) *
I like doing wheelies, and I have been known to do them at Olds, Usually on a Sunday or Monday, off to one side where nobody is at.
Now heres a question for those that feel that all 4 wheels should stay on the ground. If you see me doing a wheelie, do you steer towards me, or away from me? I understand that with the front end in the air, I am not in "complete control" and my vision is limited, but if I am off to an area somewhat by myself, why do you feel compelled to run the same part of the hill, or the same bowl as me?



I like to watch rails riding wheelies and all that good stuff, but I also stay completely the hell away from them, when they are playing!!! I don't see anything with it at all, as long as they're not screwing around in a crowded area.
Havaduner
QUOTE (reflexx @ Feb 24 2010, 07:28 PM) *
QUOTE (Havaduner @ Feb 24 2010, 07:20 PM) *
I like doing wheelies, and I have been known to do them at Olds, Usually on a Sunday or Monday, off to one side where nobody is at.
Now heres a question for those that feel that all 4 wheels should stay on the ground. If you see me doing a wheelie, do you steer towards me, or away from me? I understand that with the front end in the air, I am not in "complete control" and my vision is limited, but if I am off to an area somewhat by myself, why do you feel compelled to run the same part of the hill, or the same bowl as me?


It's just impossible to tell which way a car will go when it all goes bad. So I'd stay as far away as possible.



I agree with that statement, and if you notice in Wildbuills video, no one else is around.
I guess we all have different ideas what is fun, and we all need to use some common sense. ( I know, I just typed those words) I think we can all agree doing wheelies across olds on a busy saturday is a bad idea, but what about the guy that feels the need to run the bowls in 3rd gear in a 1000hp car from Olds to comp and back as fast as he can on the same busy saturday?
Cowboy Cadillac
QUOTE (BaBaBouy @ Feb 24 2010, 04:51 PM) *
QUOTE (hillgraphics @ Feb 24 2010, 02:30 PM) *
if you can do a wheelie you have way to much horsepower for the sand.. or your car is set up totally wrong... your out there to dune... run the bowls.. its not about wheelies or sand drags.. those two thing have the most brakes and rollovers ..

my .02


You need to start telling people this, A guy ripping a hundred yard wheelie needs to know either his car is a piece of crap or that he needs to unplug a couple spark plug wires.


WOW, i bet thats a fun dune ride rotf.gif
Havaduner
OK new question, what is up with all the threads with the title "_____________ with your sandcar, accidents waiting to happen?"
WIDE LOAD
QUOTE (Dirtywhiteboy @ Feb 24 2010, 03:50 PM) *
I have to chime in here too. Wheelies are the most fun I can personally have in the sand. I build my cars to have enough HP and I have enough steel around me to protect me if I roll. The naysayers that cannot do 5th gear wheelies at 80mph on flat grounds, would if they could. If not, hey it's just not your gig. I'm not inot pulling my turning breaks in a hairpin at 60, it's just not my gig. But like Duneflyer said, in a safe path when you are not going to harm someone it is an E ticket ride that we cannot do on the street back home. Thoughts?

Amen Brother. For me it is a pressure reliever. When I drive fast, it takes a lot of concentration so I can think about driving and not about all the other garbage that we all have to deal with on a daily basis.
FASTER DADDY
QUOTE (flashpoint @ Feb 25 2010, 11:02 AM) *
QUOTE (Dirtywhiteboy @ Feb 24 2010, 02:55 PM) *
QUOTE (hillgraphics @ Feb 24 2010, 02:30 PM) *
if you can do a wheelie you have way to much horsepower for the sand.. or your car is set up totally wrong... your out there to dune... run the bowls.. its not about wheelies or sand drags.. those two thing have the most brakes and rollovers ..

my .02

Twisted, with an LS1 in your ride you dont have the raw hp to rip your front end skyward just on the stab of the throttle. I get excited just thinking about it. We are out here do sand drags and scare ourselves by shifting theough the gears straight up and down, why not! If we screw up, you throw cash at it and go to it different the next time.




If you screw up and your car goes flipping though the crowd at the drags people die!.............You gonna throw cash and the family of the dead and say...." I hope that covers it"............my god!

I second that. I wonder if Doc Gordon can throw some cash at the doctor to rebuild his body after he crashed a few years back.
reflexx
QUOTE (Havaduner @ Feb 24 2010, 07:42 PM) *
QUOTE (reflexx @ Feb 24 2010, 07:28 PM) *
QUOTE (Havaduner @ Feb 24 2010, 07:20 PM) *
I like doing wheelies, and I have been known to do them at Olds, Usually on a Sunday or Monday, off to one side where nobody is at.
Now heres a question for those that feel that all 4 wheels should stay on the ground. If you see me doing a wheelie, do you steer towards me, or away from me? I understand that with the front end in the air, I am not in "complete control" and my vision is limited, but if I am off to an area somewhat by myself, why do you feel compelled to run the same part of the hill, or the same bowl as me?


It's just impossible to tell which way a car will go when it all goes bad. So I'd stay as far away as possible.



I agree with that statement, and if you notice in Wildbuills video, no one else is around.
I guess we all have different ideas what is fun, and we all need to use some common sense. ( I know, I just typed those words) I think we can all agree doing wheelies across olds on a busy saturday is a bad idea, but what about the guy that feels the need to run the bowls in 3rd gear in a 1000hp car from Olds to comp and back as fast as he can on the same busy saturday?



+1 if you're gonna wheelie, that video is a good example.

The video of the silver car is the exact reason why long (blind) wheelies are dangerous. You have NO idea of where you come down or the results.
HOGDUNER
just look thru the floor , wheelies are a blast but there is a time and place for everything , car to car radio's sure help also
FASTER DADDY
QUOTE (charred1 @ Feb 25 2010, 01:06 PM) *
Repost, but is fitting. Sorry...no volume.


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Im sure he will just throw some cash at it and try that again. No biggie
SCHMIDTY
QUOTE (Deanasaurus @ Feb 24 2010, 01:47 PM) *
quite ridiculous........ wife.gif

Wheelies for the sake of show in a busy area are not smart.... This to me is common sense - seemingly a great lack of it these days no doubt.

However - wheelie's in the course of a dune run are great fun and do take a lot of talent. Nothing gets the blood pumping more than a third gear pinned wheelie across the face of a dune in the middle of an outrageous run with your bro's. Further, when it is play time and you have a spotter, why not have some big fun?



That's the part that most people forget,, and I have to admit that the only 2 accidents in our camping group, involved the highest HP car doing ...GUESS WHAT??!!!A wheelie.. Once he hit a person,(not entirely his fault) and once ran into another buggy..(again not entirely his fault).. But the fact remains, when your front end is in the air, you really can't see what is developing in front of you, and when you come down,you are usually haul'n ( Y )....and you have very little time to react... There IS a time for everything, but in light of recent trends.. When is your ego, more important than someones right to live??? Pretty selfish, when your inflated ego, destroys someones family..I think the whole HP mania has gotten kind of out of hand ..IMHO as well..
HOGDUNER
being able to lift the fromt a little sure has helped me thru some nasty witch's eyes
ONE-A-DAY
QUOTE (WildBill @ Feb 24 2010, 06:55 PM) *


Bad choice WildBill.........there are people, kids, infants, midgets, other cars, quads, hangliders, and ice cream trucks and milk vetches all over the place in each of those shots. 1cheff.gif
BaBaBouy
I kind of skipped a few pages, what's the verdict, wheelies cool or not? I want to be on the cutting edge.
King Tim
QUOTE (TNTDUNER @ Feb 24 2010, 10:09 PM) *
QUOTE (WildBill @ Feb 24 2010, 06:55 PM) *


Bad choice WildBill.........there are people, kids, infants, midgets, other cars, quads, hangliders, and ice cream trucks and milk vetches all over the place in each of those shots. 1cheff.gif



rotf.gif . tim
flashpoint
Just throw some money at it ...............it will be fine!

http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index....t=0&start=0


Ill spare everyone the link to the topic of the poor guy on a quad being killed a few weeks back by a guy wheeling up Olds!
BaBaBouy
QUOTE (flashpoint @ Feb 24 2010, 09:13 PM) *
Just throw some money at it ...............it will be fine!

http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index....t=0&start=0


Ill spare everyone the link to the topic of the poor guy on a quad being killed a few weeks back by a guy wheeling up Olds!


Not sure but I think there were a few fatalities on the freeways that weekend as well.
reflexx
QUOTE (BaBaBouy @ Feb 24 2010, 09:22 PM) *
QUOTE (flashpoint @ Feb 24 2010, 09:13 PM) *
Just throw some money at it ...............it will be fine!

http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index....t=0&start=0


Ill spare everyone the link to the topic of the poor guy on a quad being killed a few weeks back by a guy wheeling up Olds!


Not sure but I think there were a few fatalities on the freeways that weekend as well.



Not a valid point. We HAVE to use freeways. We DON'T HAVE wheelie.
flashpoint
QUOTE (reflexx @ Feb 24 2010, 09:28 PM) *
QUOTE (BaBaBouy @ Feb 24 2010, 09:22 PM) *
QUOTE (flashpoint @ Feb 24 2010, 09:13 PM) *
Just throw some money at it ...............it will be fine!

http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index....t=0&start=0


Ill spare everyone the link to the topic of the poor guy on a quad being killed a few weeks back by a guy wheeling up Olds!


Not sure but I think there were a few fatalities on the freeways that weekend as well.



Not a valid point. We HAVE to use freeways. We DON'T HAVE wheelie.



Thank you reflexx....my question to him was going to be......"Were the cars wheeling on the freeway?".....

What these guys dont get is its no so much about the wheelies as it is about WHEN and WHERE they choose to do it.
HOGDUNER
QUOTE (flashpoint @ Feb 24 2010, 09:31 PM) *
QUOTE (reflexx @ Feb 24 2010, 09:28 PM) *
QUOTE (BaBaBouy @ Feb 24 2010, 09:22 PM) *
QUOTE (flashpoint @ Feb 24 2010, 09:13 PM) *
Just throw some money at it ...............it will be fine!

http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index....t=0&start=0


Ill spare everyone the link to the topic of the poor guy on a quad being killed a few weeks back by a guy wheeling up Olds!


Not sure but I think there were a few fatalities on the freeways that weekend as well.



Not a valid point. We HAVE to use freeways. We DON'T HAVE wheelie.



Thank you reflexx....my question to him was going to be......"Were the cars wheeling on the freeway?"......lame
havent quite pulled it off yet but i keep trying , maybe when i get the 468 in the camaro

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