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Full Version: Pits Aren't Dangerous, Right? :rolleyes:
rediculous
I agree it is awful when any child is attacked. Poor kid. 
BUT THAT BEING SAID if you read the story, they were going after the DIAPER not the baby. I bet you anything if the "mom" (who leaves their 6 month old alone with ANY dog, big, small or otherwise?) those dogs had gotten into the trash after the diapers, etc. It is the smell they were going after, just because of their breed they are going to be coined vicious killers. What if it was a poodle? We would not have this coverage, I promise you that. I do a lot of work with rescue and animal shelters, and I see more "bite" dogs that are mutts, Shepherds, Labs, golden retrievers etc than pits. And when you see the pits (not near as often as others) it is usually they defending their home, property or people but they have to go for the quarantine and behavior test because they bit someone. I can show you a purebred yellow Lab, including you tube videos of him playing fine around kids, but he will snap in a second and last week tried to attack a group of little girls. He is a bad DOG, nothing to do with his BREED!
A lot of people have misconceptions when it comes to which dog breeds are most aggressive and which ones aren't. Aggressive dog breeds generally exhibit behavior that's meant to scare or intimidate other animals or people. You can tell if a particular breed has aggression issues by the way it acts. You should especially pay attention when you are selecting a puppy. Is it the bully of the group, or quite shy and timid? Either case can lead to uncontrolled aggression, whether out of dominance or out of fear. Uncontrolled, regular growling, snarling, biting and lunging are dead giveaways that something's up with the dog.
Don't just look at a dog's breed when selecting one. Even the gentlest of breeds can be violent ones, especially if they aren't given enough socialization and training. Did you know that the breeds that are more likely to bite are the ones people rarely think about - like the cuddly toy poodle or the Jack Russell Terrier?
Beware of THESE Dogs.
The truth of the matter is, all dogs can be provoked or egged on to bite. There's no such thing as a "bad" breed. Practically all kinds of dogs are trainable. Proper training and socialization can make otherwise violent dogs, such as pit bull terriers and Rottweilers, adorable and gentle ones.
Dog owners should have their beloved pets trained to follow basic commands like come, sit, lie and stay. Obedience training school is one way of effectively preventing many dog-biting incidents, but you should try to find time for day-to-day instruction between dog and master, as well. This helps build the bond between you and your dog; when your dog trusts you enough, he dare not attack other people, particularly YOU.
Here's a look at the various dog breeds that are considered potentially aggressive.
* Chow Chows are one-person dogs that tend to bite without any warning. They are also a bit ferocious around strangers, and can be quite a tenacious fighter. So make sure to discipline this dog and set right from wrong, immediately.
* The Papillon is fiercely loyal of their owners - to a fault. They can be quite possessive and standoffish to strangers.
* Old English Sheepdogs are very protective of their owners so they might be aggressive if anybody tends to be too close to its owners.
* A Llasa Apso often gets cranky around kids.
* Rottweilers are extremely protective of their masters.
* Chihuahuas aren't too fond of kids. They'd rather be with adults than play around with tots.
* Toy Poodles bite people and other animals out of self defense. Unfortunately, 'playing' according to you may be perceived as a form of 'attack' to them.
* Dachshunds aren't known for their patience.
* Jack Russell Terriers are feisty creatures who require early training to prevent long-term biting and digging problems.
* Giant Schnauzers are very dominant. They often challenge adults, particularly strangers.
* roosterer Spaniels often suffer from a dangerous genetic disease known as "rage syndrome." This syndrome causes spontaneous violent action against not strangers, but actual family members. Many Spaniels have been put down because of this unwanted behavior. Check with the breeder to ensure your Spaniel is free from this dangerous dog disease.
* The Pekingese isn't all that tolerant of strangers.
* Miniature Pinschers usually have aggression issues because they've got this "big dog-little body" mind set going on.
Here's a rundown of breeds that are typically gentle but can't shake off their "bad dog" image.
* Boxers are pretty good with kids. They are good watchdogs, but will only become aggressive
* Bulldogs are very playful and gentle.
* Great Danes, while considerable in size, happen to be kind and affectionate.
* Mastiffs are especially quiet and docile.
* German Shepherds are great with kids too. These are courageous, fiercely loyal dogs who, if trained properly, will be extremely gentle to family and guests.
* Rottweilers are also capable of tenderness and affection. They have a bad rep, but if they trust you, you'll never have to worry.
In truth, most pit bulls aren't really as aggressive as they're made out to be. They tend to be loving, gentle and playful. But there are some that have been raised and trained to be highly aggressive. Such pit bulls tend to be more aggressive toward other animals than people. Aggressive pit bulls often have a history of being abused or neglected, and getting trained specifically to fight. Pit bulls that have been mistreated are seen as being extremely dangerous, so avoid them. If you own one, treat it gently and lovingly.
Whether you've got a puppy or a full-grown dog, what's important is that you give it the attention and care it deserves. Recognizing and heeding the warning signs of potential dog aggression problems will make it easier to deal with them at an early stage. When in doubt about something dog-related, consult with a qualified veterinarian and/or animal behaviorist.
BUT THAT BEING SAID if you read the story, they were going after the DIAPER not the baby. I bet you anything if the "mom" (who leaves their 6 month old alone with ANY dog, big, small or otherwise?) those dogs had gotten into the trash after the diapers, etc. It is the smell they were going after, just because of their breed they are going to be coined vicious killers. What if it was a poodle? We would not have this coverage, I promise you that. I do a lot of work with rescue and animal shelters, and I see more "bite" dogs that are mutts, Shepherds, Labs, golden retrievers etc than pits. And when you see the pits (not near as often as others) it is usually they defending their home, property or people but they have to go for the quarantine and behavior test because they bit someone. I can show you a purebred yellow Lab, including you tube videos of him playing fine around kids, but he will snap in a second and last week tried to attack a group of little girls. He is a bad DOG, nothing to do with his BREED!A lot of people have misconceptions when it comes to which dog breeds are most aggressive and which ones aren't. Aggressive dog breeds generally exhibit behavior that's meant to scare or intimidate other animals or people. You can tell if a particular breed has aggression issues by the way it acts. You should especially pay attention when you are selecting a puppy. Is it the bully of the group, or quite shy and timid? Either case can lead to uncontrolled aggression, whether out of dominance or out of fear. Uncontrolled, regular growling, snarling, biting and lunging are dead giveaways that something's up with the dog.
Don't just look at a dog's breed when selecting one. Even the gentlest of breeds can be violent ones, especially if they aren't given enough socialization and training. Did you know that the breeds that are more likely to bite are the ones people rarely think about - like the cuddly toy poodle or the Jack Russell Terrier?
Beware of THESE Dogs.
The truth of the matter is, all dogs can be provoked or egged on to bite. There's no such thing as a "bad" breed. Practically all kinds of dogs are trainable. Proper training and socialization can make otherwise violent dogs, such as pit bull terriers and Rottweilers, adorable and gentle ones.
Dog owners should have their beloved pets trained to follow basic commands like come, sit, lie and stay. Obedience training school is one way of effectively preventing many dog-biting incidents, but you should try to find time for day-to-day instruction between dog and master, as well. This helps build the bond between you and your dog; when your dog trusts you enough, he dare not attack other people, particularly YOU.
Here's a look at the various dog breeds that are considered potentially aggressive.
* Chow Chows are one-person dogs that tend to bite without any warning. They are also a bit ferocious around strangers, and can be quite a tenacious fighter. So make sure to discipline this dog and set right from wrong, immediately.
* The Papillon is fiercely loyal of their owners - to a fault. They can be quite possessive and standoffish to strangers.
* Old English Sheepdogs are very protective of their owners so they might be aggressive if anybody tends to be too close to its owners.
* A Llasa Apso often gets cranky around kids.
* Rottweilers are extremely protective of their masters.
* Chihuahuas aren't too fond of kids. They'd rather be with adults than play around with tots.
* Toy Poodles bite people and other animals out of self defense. Unfortunately, 'playing' according to you may be perceived as a form of 'attack' to them.
* Dachshunds aren't known for their patience.
* Jack Russell Terriers are feisty creatures who require early training to prevent long-term biting and digging problems.
* Giant Schnauzers are very dominant. They often challenge adults, particularly strangers.
* roosterer Spaniels often suffer from a dangerous genetic disease known as "rage syndrome." This syndrome causes spontaneous violent action against not strangers, but actual family members. Many Spaniels have been put down because of this unwanted behavior. Check with the breeder to ensure your Spaniel is free from this dangerous dog disease.
* The Pekingese isn't all that tolerant of strangers.
* Miniature Pinschers usually have aggression issues because they've got this "big dog-little body" mind set going on.
Here's a rundown of breeds that are typically gentle but can't shake off their "bad dog" image.
* Boxers are pretty good with kids. They are good watchdogs, but will only become aggressive
* Bulldogs are very playful and gentle.
* Great Danes, while considerable in size, happen to be kind and affectionate.
* Mastiffs are especially quiet and docile.
* German Shepherds are great with kids too. These are courageous, fiercely loyal dogs who, if trained properly, will be extremely gentle to family and guests.
* Rottweilers are also capable of tenderness and affection. They have a bad rep, but if they trust you, you'll never have to worry.
In truth, most pit bulls aren't really as aggressive as they're made out to be. They tend to be loving, gentle and playful. But there are some that have been raised and trained to be highly aggressive. Such pit bulls tend to be more aggressive toward other animals than people. Aggressive pit bulls often have a history of being abused or neglected, and getting trained specifically to fight. Pit bulls that have been mistreated are seen as being extremely dangerous, so avoid them. If you own one, treat it gently and lovingly.
Whether you've got a puppy or a full-grown dog, what's important is that you give it the attention and care it deserves. Recognizing and heeding the warning signs of potential dog aggression problems will make it easier to deal with them at an early stage. When in doubt about something dog-related, consult with a qualified veterinarian and/or animal behaviorist.
what dumb a-- girl our guy puts his 6 month old down around ANY two dogs when your not going to be right there
This is a very hard subject for me to speak about, but here it goes...last June my 4 year old daughter was visiting my parents house which is only a few miles from my house. Aparently my mothers female dog was in heat and her male chocolate lab was very protective of her. we know that my daughter walked out the front door to head to her playhouse and 30-40 seconds later she was coming back thru the front door with her face torn open...we think that my daughter was walking in the direction of the female dog and the male lab got jealous and attacked her. My wife got the call and was there in less than 5 minutes and they called
911, which my mom should have done, but she was in shock. The ambulance took my baby girl to loma linda hospital where we waited approx 7 hours for a maxifacial surgeon to stitch her back up which took 5 hours and well over 150 stitches...the doctor said they don't count when your dealing with that many stitches. The reason I wanted to chime in is simple, this was done by a very unagressive dog, a big old oaff named woody. Everytime I tell anyone what breed of dog, they don't believe me. This can happen to anyone at anytime by any breed of dog. No matter how well a dog acts around kids, they can never be trusted around them.
911, which my mom should have done, but she was in shock. The ambulance took my baby girl to loma linda hospital where we waited approx 7 hours for a maxifacial surgeon to stitch her back up which took 5 hours and well over 150 stitches...the doctor said they don't count when your dealing with that many stitches. The reason I wanted to chime in is simple, this was done by a very unagressive dog, a big old oaff named woody. Everytime I tell anyone what breed of dog, they don't believe me. This can happen to anyone at anytime by any breed of dog. No matter how well a dog acts around kids, they can never be trusted around them.
Use to have a very nice rott.Would take him to the dog park and always great with other dogs thougt one time he was just a wuss.One day a golden retreiver comes up and just jumps at my rott my dog backed up dog jumps towards mine again mine backs up and i try to move this dumb gog got in mines face and mine let loose he showed some serious aggresion towards the golden retreiver jumped on top of him really growling this owner flipped put.Luckily others saw this and told him the same.He got quiet and that was it.My dog went on to paly with other dogs like nothing happened.
When they say rotts are protective of their families they are right my nephews could litteraly walk over him and he would just get up and move.Once at glamis a friend of ours who would come over often and even play with the dog we were wrestling playin around another girl was petting my rott and holding him he just took off out of nowhere and jumped on my friend took him down and growled didnt bite but let him know hes watching.I stopped the dog right then and 10 seconds later my buddy was playing with the rott.
Was the absolute best dog i have ever owned he was about 115 pound dog lived to be about 15 years old.The last batch of dog food from china did it in for him.My mom thought it was the dogs old age and had to have him put down.Later found out about the bad food after he was put down he had all the syptoms but was also getting old too and it was showing.Even in his old age he would just sleep and lay down alot but if there was a problem he would get up very fast and still act like he was a young dog.
When they say rotts are protective of their families they are right my nephews could litteraly walk over him and he would just get up and move.Once at glamis a friend of ours who would come over often and even play with the dog we were wrestling playin around another girl was petting my rott and holding him he just took off out of nowhere and jumped on my friend took him down and growled didnt bite but let him know hes watching.I stopped the dog right then and 10 seconds later my buddy was playing with the rott.
Was the absolute best dog i have ever owned he was about 115 pound dog lived to be about 15 years old.The last batch of dog food from china did it in for him.My mom thought it was the dogs old age and had to have him put down.Later found out about the bad food after he was put down he had all the syptoms but was also getting old too and it was showing.Even in his old age he would just sleep and lay down alot but if there was a problem he would get up very fast and still act like he was a young dog.
Makes me sick to my stomach. What kind of a parent leaves their child (regardless of age) alone with two Pitt Bulls?
Horrible parenting.
Horrible parenting.
QUOTE (bldrinker @ Apr 10 2010, 09:08 PM) 
QUOTE (RichERich @ Apr 10 2010, 08:16 PM)
This is a very hard subject for me to speak about, but here it goes...last June my 4 year old daughter was visiting my parents house which is only a few miles from my house. Aparently my mothers female dog was in heat and her male chocolate lab was very protective of her. we know that my daughter walked out the front door to head to her playhouse and 30-40 seconds later she was coming back thru the front door with her face torn open...we think that my daughter was walking in the direction of the female dog and the male lab got jealous and attacked her. My wife got the call and was there in less than 5 minutes and they called
911, which my mom should have done, but she was in shock. The ambulance took my baby girl to loma linda hospital where we waited approx 7 hours for a maxifacial surgeon to stitch her back up which took 5 hours and well over 150 stitches...the doctor said they don't count when your dealing with that many stitches. The reason I wanted to chime in is simple, this was done by a very unagressive dog, a big old oaff named woody. Everytime I tell anyone what breed of dog, they don't believe me. This can happen to anyone at anytime by any breed of dog. No matter how well a dog acts around kids, they can never be trusted around them.
911, which my mom should have done, but she was in shock. The ambulance took my baby girl to loma linda hospital where we waited approx 7 hours for a maxifacial surgeon to stitch her back up which took 5 hours and well over 150 stitches...the doctor said they don't count when your dealing with that many stitches. The reason I wanted to chime in is simple, this was done by a very unagressive dog, a big old oaff named woody. Everytime I tell anyone what breed of dog, they don't believe me. This can happen to anyone at anytime by any breed of dog. No matter how well a dog acts around kids, they can never be trusted around them.
Sorry about your little girl. See people it's not just Pitbulls even a Lab wich is a very kid friendly breed can snap...
Dito that bldrinker...Wow richerich that must have been sooo traumatic.
Sos orry to hear you and your fam had to go thru that.
QUOTE (77charger @ Apr 10 2010, 09:43 PM)
Use to have a very nice rott.Would take him to the dog park and always great with other dogs thougt one time he was just a wuss.One day a golden retreiver comes up and just jumps at my rott my dog backed up dog jumps towards mine again mine backs up and i try to move this dumb gog got in mines face and mine let loose he showed some serious aggresion towards the golden retreiver jumped on top of him really growling this owner flipped put.Luckily others saw this and told him the same.He got quiet and that was it.My dog went on to paly with other dogs like nothing happened.
When they say rotts are protective of their families they are right my nephews could litteraly walk over him and he would just get up and move.Once at glamis a friend of ours who would come over often and even play with the dog we were wrestling playin around another girl was petting my rott and holding him he just took off out of nowhere and jumped on my friend took him down and growled didnt bite but let him know hes watching.I stopped the dog right then and 10 seconds later my buddy was playing with the rott.
Was the absolute best dog i have ever owned he was about 115 pound dog lived to be about 15 years old.The last batch of dog food from china did it in for him.My mom thought it was the dogs old age and had to have him put down.Later found out about the bad food after he was put down he had all the syptoms but was also getting old too and it was showing.Even in his old age he would just sleep and lay down alot but if there was a problem he would get up very fast and still act like he was a young dog.
I had CHOW that was everybody's best friend till he got old, 15yr he got crazy and snaped/bit my nephew, later he bit my friend and that was it. we decided to put him down and three days later my mom called me while I was at work to tell me that Chewy wasn't lookin good, I came home from work and he was dieing right in front of me. it hurt me to see him tryin to breathe but it was his time. 15 yrs of love and the best he could get and he still flipped. I would never leave my 2 Yo alone with any dog. I love dogs and Lilly does too. she's fearless and she walks up to them but knows to put her hand out to let them sniff but she does it without fear is what scares me. I have no dogs at this point but will and they will be trained. Dogs are Dogs and they will kill or harm anyone that gets close to the one that feeds them and takes care of them. But I will never leave my Lillybug around any dog unattended. I grew up around a lot of Pitbulls and No Pitbulls are bad!!! No Breed's are bad, It the way they are brought up PERIOD. I'm more scared when I go to my friends house cause he had a pissed off mini pincher that would go after my ankles once's I turned my back on that little effer. Bottom line is that, that mother shouldn't of left her baby alone with any dog. I would of still broken that dogs neck at of reaction but in the end I would of been wrong cause like I said before the dog didn't know any better. I just need to decide on what kind of dog we'll get next. when I read all of this it just seems like little dogs have Napoleon syndrome and I will stay away from them, I don't like yapper anyway.
When they say rotts are protective of their families they are right my nephews could litteraly walk over him and he would just get up and move.Once at glamis a friend of ours who would come over often and even play with the dog we were wrestling playin around another girl was petting my rott and holding him he just took off out of nowhere and jumped on my friend took him down and growled didnt bite but let him know hes watching.I stopped the dog right then and 10 seconds later my buddy was playing with the rott.
Was the absolute best dog i have ever owned he was about 115 pound dog lived to be about 15 years old.The last batch of dog food from china did it in for him.My mom thought it was the dogs old age and had to have him put down.Later found out about the bad food after he was put down he had all the syptoms but was also getting old too and it was showing.Even in his old age he would just sleep and lay down alot but if there was a problem he would get up very fast and still act like he was a young dog.
I feel so bad for that little baby getting his male parts bitten off...people are funny with their animals..and very trusting....one thing about dogs, staring them in the eye is a sign of aggression..as it is in our world...you know..somebodies staring at you or "mad dogging"..it can lead to fights amoungst us...well..kids are just the right height to have direct eye contact with dogs..and kids don't know staring at a dog is a sign of aggression...
hold your dog tightly and ask a friend whom isn't a normal visitor to get down at the dogs level and stare at em..you might be surprised at your dogs reaction..and then you'll have a peek into your dogs character..just make sure your holding on tight and the dog can't lunge at their face..cause some will instantly...
another test is to see how they react to their food being taken away....did they get angry?
new puppies they say you should hold in your hands on their back..if they instantly want to flip around they are dominant/aggressive..if they lay there, they are submissive...
my yellow lab passed all the tests on being a great big wussy...which is not necessarily a good thing....damn dog wont even keep the ducks out of my pool..WTF??? He's a lab...huh???
go get em boy???? Isn't that what they are supposed to do?????
LAZY....
hold your dog tightly and ask a friend whom isn't a normal visitor to get down at the dogs level and stare at em..you might be surprised at your dogs reaction..and then you'll have a peek into your dogs character..just make sure your holding on tight and the dog can't lunge at their face..cause some will instantly...
another test is to see how they react to their food being taken away....did they get angry?
new puppies they say you should hold in your hands on their back..if they instantly want to flip around they are dominant/aggressive..if they lay there, they are submissive...
my yellow lab passed all the tests on being a great big wussy...which is not necessarily a good thing....damn dog wont even keep the ducks out of my pool..WTF??? He's a lab...huh???
go get em boy???? Isn't that what they are supposed to do?????
LAZY....
QUOTE (RichERich @ Apr 10 2010, 07:16 PM)
This is a very hard subject for me to speak about, but here it goes...last June my 4 year old daughter was visiting my parents house which is only a few miles from my house. Aparently my mothers female dog was in heat and her male chocolate lab was very protective of her. we know that my daughter walked out the front door to head to her playhouse and 30-40 seconds later she was coming back thru the front door with her face torn open...we think that my daughter was walking in the direction of the female dog and the male lab got jealous and attacked her. My wife got the call and was there in less than 5 minutes and they called
911, which my mom should have done, but she was in shock. The ambulance took my baby girl to loma linda hospital where we waited approx 7 hours for a maxifacial surgeon to stitch her back up which took 5 hours and well over 150 stitches...the doctor said they don't count when your dealing with that many stitches. The reason I wanted to chime in is simple, this was done by a very unagressive dog, a big old oaff named woody. Everytime I tell anyone what breed of dog, they don't believe me. This can happen to anyone at anytime by any breed of dog. No matter how well a dog acts around kids, they can never be trusted around them.
911, which my mom should have done, but she was in shock. The ambulance took my baby girl to loma linda hospital where we waited approx 7 hours for a maxifacial surgeon to stitch her back up which took 5 hours and well over 150 stitches...the doctor said they don't count when your dealing with that many stitches. The reason I wanted to chime in is simple, this was done by a very unagressive dog, a big old oaff named woody. Everytime I tell anyone what breed of dog, they don't believe me. This can happen to anyone at anytime by any breed of dog. No matter how well a dog acts around kids, they can never be trusted around them.
Sorry to hear about this RichERich. I also have had a run in with a Lab that left me with stitches in my face. Those Labs are a dangerous breed of dogs and should be put down, Right!!!
LatinLover, you are 100% right. Pit's aren't dangerous. Animals are dangerous and even more dangerous when they are teamed up with an unresponsible owner. Did you know that dogs are WILD ANIMALS??? I think you should change the title of the thread to ANIMALS ARE DANGEROUS or UNRESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERS. This isn't the fault of the dog (that just happened to be a pit).
QUOTE (LEGACY @ Apr 10 2010, 10:20 PM)
Makes me sick to my stomach. What kind of a parent leaves their child (regardless of age) alone with two Pitt Bulls?
Horrible parenting.
Horrible parenting.
x2
QUOTE (bldrinker @ Apr 10 2010, 06:05 PM)
To the People that think PitBulls should be destroyed, well a very high % of African Americans and Mexican are known to be hi risk criminals ( I studied this in college so i'm not making it up ) so lets exterminate them too. That would be dumb becuase of all the good African Americans and Mexicans so how do we do the same thing to dogs?
True. Maybe the Latin Lover can find a few news stories about the latest murders around the country. Doubt they will be by pitbulls.
don't read about a lot of Goden Retriever and Lab attacks?
QUOTE (tomfish1 @ Apr 11 2010, 07:48 PM)
don't read about a lot of Goden Retriever and Lab attacks?
Doesn't surprise me...they are as prevalent as bully breed bites just less focus on them. The population percentage of dogs throws off the actual accounts.
QUOTE (Bansh88 @ Apr 11 2010, 02:10 PM)
QUOTE (bldrinker @ Apr 10 2010, 06:05 PM)
To the People that think PitBulls should be destroyed, well a very high % of African Americans and Mexican are known to be hi risk criminals ( I studied this in college so i'm not making it up ) so lets exterminate them too. That would be dumb becuase of all the good African Americans and Mexicans so how do we do the same thing to dogs?
True. Maybe the Latin Lover can find a few news stories about the latest murders around the country. Doubt they will be by pitbulls.
Interesting point....and true. Its all relative.
we are on our 2nd pit (first one died after 14 yrs w/ us) all i have to say to the people that think they are dangerous is go watch the Little Rascals. thats right spanky and the gangs dog was a pitbull. the pit was the amarican family dog for decades 
All dogs can be dangerous as we all know. And ALL dogs can be loving based on how they are raised.
But NOBODY will ever convince me that pits are not more prone to more aggressive behavior.
For me, when I take my dog (boarder collie) to a bark park, as soon as the first pit shows up, Im leaving.
I have no idea how that person has raised their dog or how short that dogs fuse is, and Im not talking any chances.
Sorry, call me what you wish, say Im naive if you wish, but I have no place in my life for pits.
Seems like all the pit attacks are from well behaved, loving family pits that would never hurt anyone...
until that short fuse burns thru...
Sometimes a dogs natural instinct will over ride his training and that can be a disaster.
But NOBODY will ever convince me that pits are not more prone to more aggressive behavior.
For me, when I take my dog (boarder collie) to a bark park, as soon as the first pit shows up, Im leaving.
I have no idea how that person has raised their dog or how short that dogs fuse is, and Im not talking any chances.
Sorry, call me what you wish, say Im naive if you wish, but I have no place in my life for pits.
Seems like all the pit attacks are from well behaved, loving family pits that would never hurt anyone...
until that short fuse burns thru...
Sometimes a dogs natural instinct will over ride his training and that can be a disaster.
Just last night, after having a pit run up to me and lay a big wet one on me, I was thinking how almost everytime I am at the dog park I see a pit. And I have NEVER had a problem with one. I judge whether or not to leave the dog park by the dogs behavior, not breed. Maybe I'm a dumbarse but I haven't had a major problem with any dogs with this route. If I don't like the way a dog greets other dogs or my dogs, that is what makes my decision for me. Frankly all of the 'bully breeds' I've run into at a dog park I have had wonderful experiences with. I think their owners are more cognizant of the bad 'rep' and make sure the dog is ready to behave before letting them loose.
I have however had issues with Chihuahuas, Bichons, Poms, and a Labradoodle (standard size). I'm thinking these owners see their dogs behavior as harmless when the breed is smaller. FYI its NOT. Talking about scars across the face, my little sister has one from a smaller terrier mix. It went for her face and she's got a 2 inch scar just under her eye. If the dog had been 1/4 of an inch higher on her face she may have lost her eye from the attach. The labradoodle issue had more to do with his lack of socialization with small dogs. The only dog park in Yuma isn't split by size, it's all mix. I visit the dog park at least once a week and have been visiting dog parks for years.
Anyone that damns a breed is being ignorant IMO. I choose to judge by character. Pits bad rep has a LOT more to do with WHO is attracted to owning the pit and the manner in which it is raised.
Ya know maybe your right. We should just start damning everything by whatever the greater majority of offenders are. Lets start with MEN. In Sexual Assault, Armed Robbery, & Aggravated Assault MEN account for OVER 80% of offenders. With Homicide the number is just under 80%. Thats a lot higher number than any of the statistics against pits. This Gender-Nazi is ready to go on the march
Source:U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, "Homicide Trends in the U.S.," The report was published in 2001 with stats from 93-97 so OK the data is 10 yrs old but it's the best I could come up with immediately.
I have however had issues with Chihuahuas, Bichons, Poms, and a Labradoodle (standard size). I'm thinking these owners see their dogs behavior as harmless when the breed is smaller. FYI its NOT. Talking about scars across the face, my little sister has one from a smaller terrier mix. It went for her face and she's got a 2 inch scar just under her eye. If the dog had been 1/4 of an inch higher on her face she may have lost her eye from the attach. The labradoodle issue had more to do with his lack of socialization with small dogs. The only dog park in Yuma isn't split by size, it's all mix. I visit the dog park at least once a week and have been visiting dog parks for years.
Anyone that damns a breed is being ignorant IMO. I choose to judge by character. Pits bad rep has a LOT more to do with WHO is attracted to owning the pit and the manner in which it is raised.
Ya know maybe your right. We should just start damning everything by whatever the greater majority of offenders are. Lets start with MEN. In Sexual Assault, Armed Robbery, & Aggravated Assault MEN account for OVER 80% of offenders. With Homicide the number is just under 80%. Thats a lot higher number than any of the statistics against pits. This Gender-Nazi is ready to go on the march
Source:U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, "Homicide Trends in the U.S.," The report was published in 2001 with stats from 93-97 so OK the data is 10 yrs old but it's the best I could come up with immediately.
This is so simple....
If you put your child on an LT50 (Yorkie)
vs
Putting your child on an Raptor700 (Rot/Pit/Large Dog)
Which can do the most Damage? The Larger more powerful Machine!
Animals are the same way, either can hurt you.
I totally blame the Parents and not the animal.
However, since these animals have hurt a human (Even though not by their own fault/treatment/raising, etc) they should be put to sleep.
If you put your child on an LT50 (Yorkie)
vs
Putting your child on an Raptor700 (Rot/Pit/Large Dog)
Which can do the most Damage? The Larger more powerful Machine!
Animals are the same way, either can hurt you.
I totally blame the Parents and not the animal.
However, since these animals have hurt a human (Even though not by their own fault/treatment/raising, etc) they should be put to sleep.
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