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btbell1323
I am pulling a LE3505 with a Ford Super Duty.
Am I better off with Gooseneck of 5th Wheel hitch.
I like the fact with gooseneck you still have the truck bed.
adbrothers
I bought the newer style rails and put them in my truck. I bought both the gooseneck and 5th wheel hitch attachments. That way I can pull either one and take up almost the same amount of space in the bed. When I need the whole bed its just 4 clips and the bed is empty.


Im almost unsure what you mean about having more room with one or the other? Do you mean conventional? or tow behind? Some people call them bumper pull, but you dont really use the bumper.
BigBlockTank
I pull a 375FS GearBox with a 2500HD 6.6 diesel. I bought a trailer that had a gooseneck already on it. The 5th wheel hitch was about $12-1500 installed, I chose to pay $635 for the gooseneck installed. I like it because, with the flip of the ball in the bed, I have a full truck bed again. With a 5er, you still have the rails left in the bed. It's much cleaner to me, tho have the gooseneck.

For what it's worth,
BBTank (wouldn't switch if you paid for it)
adbrothers
My bad, I was thinking you were meanning still having the truck bed while you were pulling the trailer until I read BigBlockTanks reply. In that case I like the gooseneck better also. Plus you get more articulation on the gooseneck, but you can also mess you truck up easier if you dont pay attention because the 5th wheel limits the side to side movement even with the rocker style hitch.
ANGELMONEY
If you read up on it the gooseneck adapter puts stress on the frame of the trailer, a ww 35ft loaded is pretty heavy and would flex alot. The regular 5er supports the frame and carries the load.

IF ya think about it 99% of the trailers have a normal 5er for a reason.

Good luck in whatever you choose.
adbrothers
QUOTE (ANGELMONEY @ May 9 2010, 07:42 PM) *
If you read up on it the gooseneck adapter puts stress on the frame of the trailer, a ww 35ft loaded is pretty heavy and would flex alot. The regular 5er supports the frame and carries the load.

IF ya think about it 99% of the trailers have a normal 5er for a reason.

Good luck in whatever you choose.



Are the ww trailer built with weak frames? I dont like the adaptors either.

I'm asking because of your comment about 99% of trailers. I have two heavy equipment trailers and have pulled a few horse trailers with living areas in front that weigh a lot more than my toyhauler and they are are all gooseneck.
BIG-RED
QUOTE (adbrothers @ May 9 2010, 08:04 PM) *
QUOTE (ANGELMONEY @ May 9 2010, 07:42 PM) *
If you read up on it the gooseneck adapter puts stress on the frame of the trailer, a ww 35ft loaded is pretty heavy and would flex alot. The regular 5er supports the frame and carries the load.

IF ya think about it 99% of the trailers have a normal 5er for a reason.

Good luck in whatever you choose.



Are the ww trailer built with weak frames? I dont like the adaptors either.

I'm asking because of your comment about 99% of trailers. I have two heavy equipment trailers and have pulled a few horse trailers with living areas in front that weigh a lot more than my toyhauler and they are are all gooseneck.


Those heavy equipment and horse trailers are generally built better than those weak toy haulers.
MQUnlimited
My understanding is that if you add the gooseneck adapter on a 5er, you have a load of problems with the frame of the trailer. There was a few write ups on rv.net with pictures of a few trailers with buckled hitches and frame damage.
duner2
There is a huge difference between one of these adaptors that clamp to the king pin and the ones that replace the entire pin box. The gooseneck has a higher weight rating than most 5th wheel in bed hitches. For a trailer below 18k an adaptor that clamps to the king pin is usually fine, any heavier than that and I would go with a complete conversion. I have a 26' 5th wheel with a super slide that I pull as doubles with a clamp on adaptor for years with no problems at all. The 5th wheel is 10500lbs with another 4k to 6k behind that on the second trailer (depending on what Im towing).
duner2
Have been going to the lake all summer and the dunes all winter for years with an adaptor that clamps to the king pin.
lincster
Buy a B&W hitch. You can have a totally empty bed when you take your 5er hitch out.

When Warrior was around, they said if you ran a gooseneck adaptor, they would not repair anything under warranty. That should tell you something right there.
ANGELMONEY
QUOTE (BIG-RED @ May 9 2010, 09:06 PM) *
QUOTE (adbrothers @ May 9 2010, 08:04 PM) *
QUOTE (ANGELMONEY @ May 9 2010, 07:42 PM) *
If you read up on it the gooseneck adapter puts stress on the frame of the trailer, a ww 35ft loaded is pretty heavy and would flex alot. The regular 5er supports the frame and carries the load.

IF ya think about it 99% of the trailers have a normal 5er for a reason.

Good luck in whatever you choose.



Are the ww trailer built with weak frames? I dont like the adaptors either.

I'm asking because of your comment about 99% of trailers. I have two heavy equipment trailers and have pulled a few horse trailers with living areas in front that weigh a lot more than my toyhauler and they are are all gooseneck.


Those heavy equipment and horse trailers are generally built better than those weak toy haulers.

x2

exactly what he said and when i said 99% I was refering to toyhaulers.
twoduners11
so is there any benefit to a 5th wheel at all? im new to the "really big trailer thing" and i couldnt find one advantage to a 5th wheel over a gooseneck. price, weight rating, user friendly- i know you can remove that horse shoe thingy, but damn how much does that thing way anyhow?
and why do ya suppose only the rv industry uses the 5th wheel? horse, car, equipment, cargo all seem to use a gooseneck
duner2
A 5th wheel is easier to hook up. You only have to get in the right neighborhood and the hitch will guide the king pin into the hitch, a goose neck you have to get it really close like hooking up a bumper pull trailer only you cant put your foot on it to "wiggle" it on the ball.
THROTTLEJUNKIE
You need this. B & W Companion 5th wheel

Buy the B&W turnover ball and then buy the companion to tow your 5th wheel. It works great, rated for 18K i believe and best part is when you take it out you've got a flush bed.

Love mine, if you tow really heavy I'd do a 24k Reese signature series. It's a quick in and out, and when you pull it out, no rails. Just 4 plastic plugs.

THROTTLEJUNKIE
Here's a better pic of the Reese, when the Hitch is out.
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