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Sand Diego Duner
I don't know if any other members purchase leaded or unleaded race fuel from The SoCo Group but, I just received a letter from them regarding the end use of the race fuel I buy from them. Apparently CARB (California Air Resources Board) has issued an advisory (#397) about the supply, sale, and use of "non-compliant" gasoline. CARB is saying that "non-compliant" fuels may only be used in boats, airplanes, or racing vehicles for testing, practice, or actual competition for and during sanctioned racing events. It does specifically state that vehicles used for pleasure or recreation are not exempt from this advisory.

I don't know how this is going to affect the offroad community but I know it will have an impact as do all things that come out of CARB's rulings.
glamispilot
I will be holding racing in glamis everyday from oct 1 to may 1 ...so just tell them your racing in glamis....Tim
Mongo
<------------------- Proud member of Slappy Racing
Rusty
So register as a member of District 38 AMA and say you race desert races..... you're practicing for a race you never enter.....


Or register with SCORE if you've got a rail.....
richard cheese
the whole point is, why side-step it? why not just do away with CARB all-together?

you can in November, vote yes on CA jobs initiative, which will suspend AB32 and CARB, until unemployment is below 5.5%

http://www.jobs2010ca.com/
scotty_
some stations still sell at the pump. they just put i sticker on the pump

this is a new sticker at the pump i go to.
Sand Diego Duner
Scotty according to the paper that outlined the advisory the seller has to make reasonable attempts to keep unauthorized buys from purchasing the fuel. Just placing a sticker is probably not cutting it since SoCo has already had the stickers in place for a couple of years. I think I will join the AMA district 38. At least it will benefit someone other than the Kalifornia gubberment.
scotty_
if it is too hard to get gas in cali i will lift my boycott of AZ and get it from my brothers there tongue.gif


hell i will learn to make it if need be , i gotta dune 1dude.gif
UTV Mayhem
you guys wanna see a video i made for VP about this very thing?
Sand Diego Duner
UTV please do post the video... I would be interested.
ANGRYBUTTCRACK
QUOTE (UTV Mayhem @ Jun 17 2010, 09:42 AM) *
you guys wanna see a video i made for VP about this very thing?



Yup.. put it up Blake!

abc/Kevin
UTV Mayhem
ok, i gotta cut it into 2 parts, too long for YT.com gimme a lil bit. its about this very thing, about 16 min long speech from VP vice president.
GWTT
Pretty simple. Im still buying race fuel. I race in the WORCS series for ATV's/UTV's/MX. the form is quite simple. Pickup your local mx track, circle track, drag strip event schedule or even for you San Deigo peeps, SCORE Schedule. no rules in Mexico.
MWBbanshee
QUOTE (GWTT @ Jun 17 2010, 10:58 AM) *
Pretty simple. Im still buying race fuel. I race in the WORCS series for ATV's/UTV's/MX. the form is quite simple. Pickup your local mx track, circle track, drag strip event schedule or even for you San Deigo peeps, SCORE Schedule. no rules in Mexico.

I was thinking take a pic of you in front of a SPRINT car have some of our Photoshop people do some of there magic and suddenly your a official race car driver. If sombody asks you show them your flyer/ resume......You can even name you race team EFF CARB & the Blood Sucking Nazi's

Not NASCAR Sprint Cup car a SPRINT Car or even a Mini SPRINT would work
MrBullDawg
I sent an email to a carb guy about this issue and got a very interesting reply back...here is just a small part of the email.

QUOTE
Thanks for your interest and question concerning Advisory 397. I assume your ATV is not a competition racing vehicle used only for racing at sanctioned events. The regulation prohibits supplying non-complying racing fuel (the 110) to vehicles other than racing vehicles. It would be illegal to fuel or refuel (supply) your ATV in California with the 110. The regulation does not prohibit use. In your case, you could fuel the ATV in Oregon and use it legally in California. You just could not refuel it legally in California! I realize this sounds a bit funny but that is the current regulation.
rivermobster
You guys are getting worked up about nuthin. No one is gonna go around testing the fuel in your tank! Resellers just have to track who they sell pure race fuel too. Legal high octaine fuels are still available. Don't get your panties all in a bunch!!

tongue.gif


QUOTE
SALES, SUPPLY, AND USE REQUIREMENTS

The purpose of this advisory is to inform refiners, blenders, importers, and distributors of racing fuel of the regulations and requirements concerning the supply, sales, and use of gasoline used in racing vehicles (referred to herein as "racing fuel" or "racing gasoline") in California. This advisory applies only to motor vehicles. See the definition of "motor vehicle" below.

The California Reformulated Gasoline Regulations (RFG) found in Title 13 of the California Code of Regulations (CCR), Sections 2250-2273.5 require California gasoline sold, offered for sale, supplied or offered for supply as a motor vehicle fuel to meet certain and specific chemical content and physical property specifications, including, essentially, a zero lead (Pb) content requirement.

"Supply" means to provide or transfer a product to a physically separate facility, vehicle, or transportation system. Thus, any person in the marketing chain, including an end user / purchaser fueling his own vehicle, is supplying gasoline and is subject to the California RFG Regulations.

"Motor vehicle" is defined as a self-propelled vehicle in section 415 of the California Vehicle Code. Therefore, racing vehicles are by definition motor vehicles. Please note that boats and airplanes are not defined as motor vehicles.

"Racing vehicle" is defined as a competition vehicle not used on public highways. Further, if you can drive it to the track, it is not a racing vehicle. Racing vehicles are exempted from California Air Resources Board (CARB) vehicular air pollution control requirements in section 43001 of the California Health and Safety Code. Racing fuel (gasoline used in racing vehicles), however, is not exempt from the California RFG requirements except as provided in Section 2261(f) of the CCR.

Section 2261(f) specifically provides, in part, that sub-article 2 (Standards for Gasoline) and section 2253.4 (Lead/Phosphorus in Gasoline) "shall not apply to gasoline where the person selling, offering or supplying the gasoline demonstrates as an affirmative defense that the person has taken reasonably prudent precautions to assure that the gasoline is used only in racing vehicles."

CARB considers gasoline (leaded or unleaded) used in racing vehicles for testing, practice, or actual competition for and during a sanctioned racing event to be exempt from the reformulated gasoline (RFG) specifications. Competition vehicles driven to a racing event on a public highway rather than being transported on a trailer or other carrier are not racing vehicles. Motor vehicles used for work, pleasure, or recreation, i.e. cars, trucks, 4X4’s, motorcycles, dirt bikes, ATV’s, dune buggies, sand rails, and other vehicles not strictly used for racing events, are not racing vehicles and gasoline used in these vehicles is not exempt from California RFG requirements. Therefore, it is illegal to sell, offer for sale, supply, and offer for supply non-complying racing fuel (leaded and unleaded) for motor vehicles in California except in competition racing vehicles. Many refiners, blenders, and distributors of racing fuel sell and supply a "street legal" high octane unleaded gasoline (racing fuel) blend that complies with the specifications for California RFG. This complying racing ED – Form #075 (Rev. 07/04) ED – Form #075 (Rev. 07/04)

Leaded and unleaded racing fuel that does not meet the California RFG specifications (non-complying racing gasoline) can only be sold, offered for sale, offered for supply, or supplied for use in true, competition racing vehicles. The retailer, i.e. service station, speed shop, auto parts store, fuel distributor, and race track fuel dispensing facility, etc., who is selling or supplying this non-complying gasoline must "take reasonable prudent precautions to assure that the gasoline will be used only in racing vehicles." If the vehicle this fuel is to be used in is registered or licensed for on-road or off-road use, this usually indicates that non-complying racing fuel cannot be used in it and the sale or supply of the fuel should not take place. CARB will consider this and all other relevant circumstances to determine if "reasonable prudent precautions" were followed in any particular case. In evaluating whether "reasonable and prudent precautions" were followed, CARB will consider whether the retailer kept a record of each sale of non-complying racing gasoline and whether each sales record contains the following information:

Date of Fuel Purchase
Name, Address, and Telephone Number of Purchaser / User
Brand, Name, and Grade (octane rating) of Fuel Purchased
Type or Description of Vehicle(s) to be Fueled
Is the vehicle(s) to be fueled registered or licensed for on-road use?
Is the vehicle(s) to be fueled registered or licensed for off-road use?
License Number and VIN, if any, of Vehicle(s) to be Fueled
Name of Sanctioned Racing Event
Date of Event
Name of Racing Association or Sanctioning Body
Racing Association or Sanctioning Body Membership ID Number
Signature under penalty of perjury that the gasoline will be used only in the above racing vehicle(s) for the above sanctioned racing event

Refiners, blenders, importers, and distributors must also take "reasonable prudent precautions" and prove that adequate steps have been taken to limit sales of non-complying racing fuel to racing vehicles, exclusively. CARB will consider, but is not limited to, the following to be reasonable prudent precautions: import notifications, production reporting, labeling, record keeping, distributor training, and providing customer education materials. The requirement to take reasonable prudent precautions applies to all shipments of non-complying racing fuel regardless of container size, i.e. railcars, cargo tanks, barrels, drums, cans, etc. Specifically for importers and in-state refiners and blenders, in addition to the above, reasonable prudent precautions should include notification to CARB of the import shipment or in-state production, and labeling of each batch and container of non-complying racing gasoline. Refiners, blenders, importers, and distributors may enter into an enforcement protocol with CARB or modify their existing protocol as appropriate.

Bulk containers, including but not limited to railcars, cargo tanks, barrels, drums, and cans, as well as bills of lading, delivery tickets, and invoices for all shipments of non-complying racing fuel offered or supplied for sale and use in California must be conspicuously labeled with the following:

Legal For Use ONLY In Competition Racing Vehicles
Not Legal For Use In Any Other Motor Vehicle
Letters or statements included with shipping documents outlining the legal uses of the racing fuel, instructions sent to distributors and retailers concerning legal sales and use of racing fuel, or other specific steps outlined in a new or modified enforcement protocol with CARB Enforcement Division, are additional ways for refiners, blenders, importers, and distributors to comply with the taking "reasonable prudent precautions" requirement. CARB will evaluate whether all of the information discussed in this Advisory #397 is included in the records. The absence of such records or records that lack the above information argue against "reasonable and prudent precautions" having been taken.
Sand Diego Duner
I think you are missing the point. CARB is going after the distributors of non compliant fuels. What happens when they do... they turn around at pull it from pumps and we can't buy it. Yes we can buy compliant fuels (I have only found VP100 aka StreetBlaze 100 as a compliant fuel. I need 105 octane minimum) just tell me what brand and where to get it and it better not cost me a penny more than what I'm already paying out the nose for VP 110. I'm starting to think about switching to AvGas as it is actually not as far out of my way to get.

Take a look at the important parts of the advisory in blue... the rest of the other crap is for the manufacturers/distributors/vendors.

QUOTE (rivermobster @ Jun 17 2010, 10:18 PM) *
You guys are getting worked up about nuthin. No one is gonna go around testing the fuel in your tank! Resellers just have to track who they sell pure race fuel too. Legal high octaine fuels are still available. Don't get your panties all in a bunch!!

tongue.gif


QUOTE
SALES, SUPPLY, AND USE REQUIREMENTS

The purpose of this advisory is to inform refiners, blenders, importers, and distributors of racing fuel of the regulations and requirements concerning the supply, sales, and use of gasoline used in racing vehicles (referred to herein as "racing fuel" or "racing gasoline") in California. This advisory applies only to motor vehicles. See the definition of "motor vehicle" below.

The California Reformulated Gasoline Regulations (RFG) found in Title 13 of the California Code of Regulations (CCR), Sections 2250-2273.5 require California gasoline sold, offered for sale, supplied or offered for supply as a motor vehicle fuel to meet certain and specific chemical content and physical property specifications, including, essentially, a zero lead (Pb) content requirement.

"Supply" means to provide or transfer a product to a physically separate facility, vehicle, or transportation system. Thus, any person in the marketing chain, including an end user / purchaser fueling his own vehicle, is supplying gasoline and is subject to the California RFG Regulations.

"Motor vehicle" is defined as a self-propelled vehicle in section 415 of the California Vehicle Code. Therefore, racing vehicles are by definition motor vehicles. Please note that boats and airplanes are not defined as motor vehicles.

"Racing vehicle" is defined as a competition vehicle not used on public highways. Further, if you can drive it to the track, it is not a racing vehicle. Racing vehicles are exempted from California Air Resources Board (CARB) vehicular air pollution control requirements in section 43001 of the California Health and Safety Code. Racing fuel (gasoline used in racing vehicles), however, is not exempt from the California RFG requirements except as provided in Section 2261(f) of the CCR.

Section 2261(f) specifically provides, in part, that sub-article 2 (Standards for Gasoline) and section 2253.4 (Lead/Phosphorus in Gasoline) "shall not apply to gasoline where the person selling, offering or supplying the gasoline demonstrates as an affirmative defense that the person has taken reasonably prudent precautions to assure that the gasoline is used only in racing vehicles."

CARB considers gasoline (leaded or unleaded) used in racing vehicles for testing, practice, or actual competition for and during a sanctioned racing event to be exempt from the reformulated gasoline (RFG) specifications. Competition vehicles driven to a racing event on a public highway rather than being transported on a trailer or other carrier are not racing vehicles. Motor vehicles used for work, pleasure, or recreation, i.e. cars, trucks, 4X4’s, motorcycles, dirt bikes, ATV’s, dune buggies, sand rails, and other vehicles not strictly used for racing events, are not racing vehicles and gasoline used in these vehicles is not exempt from California RFG requirements. Therefore, it is illegal to sell, offer for sale, supply, and offer for supply non-complying racing fuel (leaded and unleaded) for motor vehicles in California except in competition racing vehicles. Many refiners, blenders, and distributors of racing fuel sell and supply a "street legal" high octane unleaded gasoline (racing fuel) blend that complies with the specifications for California RFG. This complying racing ED – Form #075 (Rev. 07/04) ED – Form #075 (Rev. 07/04)

Leaded and unleaded racing fuel that does not meet the California RFG specifications (non-complying racing gasoline) can only be sold, offered for sale, offered for supply, or supplied for use in true, competition racing vehicles. The retailer, i.e. service station, speed shop, auto parts store, fuel distributor, and race track fuel dispensing facility, etc., who is selling or supplying this non-complying gasoline must "take reasonable prudent precautions to assure that the gasoline will be used only in racing vehicles." If the vehicle this fuel is to be used in is registered or licensed for on-road or off-road use, this usually indicates that non-complying racing fuel cannot be used in it and the sale or supply of the fuel should not take place. CARB will consider this and all other relevant circumstances to determine if "reasonable prudent precautions" were followed in any particular case. In evaluating whether "reasonable and prudent precautions" were followed, CARB will consider whether the retailer kept a record of each sale of non-complying racing gasoline and whether each sales record contains the following information:

Date of Fuel Purchase
Name, Address, and Telephone Number of Purchaser / User
Brand, Name, and Grade (octane rating) of Fuel Purchased
Type or Description of Vehicle(s) to be Fueled
Is the vehicle(s) to be fueled registered or licensed for on-road use?
Is the vehicle(s) to be fueled registered or licensed for off-road use?
License Number and VIN, if any, of Vehicle(s) to be Fueled
Name of Sanctioned Racing Event
Date of Event
Name of Racing Association or Sanctioning Body
Racing Association or Sanctioning Body Membership ID Number
Signature under penalty of perjury that the gasoline will be used only in the above racing vehicle(s) for the above sanctioned racing event


Refiners, blenders, importers, and distributors must also take "reasonable prudent precautions" and prove that adequate steps have been taken to limit sales of non-complying racing fuel to racing vehicles, exclusively. CARB will consider, but is not limited to, the following to be reasonable prudent precautions: import notifications, production reporting, labeling, record keeping, distributor training, and providing customer education materials. The requirement to take reasonable prudent precautions applies to all shipments of non-complying racing fuel regardless of container size, i.e. railcars, cargo tanks, barrels, drums, cans, etc. Specifically for importers and in-state refiners and blenders, in addition to the above, reasonable prudent precautions should include notification to CARB of the import shipment or in-state production, and labeling of each batch and container of non-complying racing gasoline. Refiners, blenders, importers, and distributors may enter into an enforcement protocol with CARB or modify their existing protocol as appropriate.

Bulk containers, including but not limited to railcars, cargo tanks, barrels, drums, and cans, as well as bills of lading, delivery tickets, and invoices for all shipments of non-complying racing fuel offered or supplied for sale and use in California must be conspicuously labeled with the following:

Legal For Use ONLY In Competition Racing Vehicles
Not Legal For Use In Any Other Motor Vehicle
Letters or statements included with shipping documents outlining the legal uses of the racing fuel, instructions sent to distributors and retailers concerning legal sales and use of racing fuel, or other specific steps outlined in a new or modified enforcement protocol with CARB Enforcement Division, are additional ways for refiners, blenders, importers, and distributors to comply with the taking "reasonable prudent precautions" requirement. CARB will evaluate whether all of the information discussed in this Advisory #397 is included in the records. The absence of such records or records that lack the above information argue against "reasonable and prudent precautions" having been taken.


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