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Interim Final Supplementary Rules for Lands Managed By the BLM California Desert District Office

Under the authority of 43 CFR 8365.1–6, the California State Director, Bureau of Land Management, has issued interim final supplementary rules for public lands managed by the California Desert District (CDD).

Federal Register Notice, 6/25/10

Press Release, 6/25/10

Section 1- Definitions

BLM California Desert District means public land, managed by the BLM, totaling over 11 million acres, primarily in the southern and eastern portions of California. The California Desert District, under the authority of the District Manager, provides coordination and oversight to the five field offices of the California Desert District. The California Desert District office is located in Moreno Valley, California. This includes all of the land managed by the BLM Ridgecrest Field Office, the BLM Barstow Field Office, the BLM Palm Springs-South Coast Field Office, the BLM Needles Field Office, and the BLM El Centro Field Office. A map of this land is available at the CDD office.

Camp means day or overnight use of a tent, trailer, motor coach, fifth wheel, camper, or similar vehicle or structure.

Developed Sites and Areas means sites and areas that contain structures or capital improvements primarily used by the public for recreation purposes. Such sites or areas may include such features as: delineated spaces for parking, camping or boat launching; sanitary facilities; potable water; grills or fire rings; tables; or controlled access. This definition is consistent with 43 CFR part 8360.

Off Road Vehicle (ORV) means ORV as defined by 43 CFR 8340.0-5.

Public Nudity means nudity in a place where a person may be observed by another person.

Nudity means nudity as defined by 14 California Code of Regulations § 4322.

Special Recreation Permit means a permit issued under the authority of 43 CFR 8372.1.



Section 2 - Supplementary Rules

The following rules apply on public lands administered by the BLM California Desert District unless explicitly authorized by a permit or other authorization document issued by the BLM:

1. Public nudity is prohibited at all developed sites and areas and all ORV open areas.

2. It is prohibited for a person to ride in or transport another person in or on a portion of an ORV or trailer that is not designed or intended for the transportation of passengers.

3. It is prohibited to use as firewood, or have in their possession, any firewood materials containing nails, screws, or other metal hardware, including, but not limited to, wood pallets and/or construction debris.

4. Possession of glass beverage containers is prohibited in all developed sites and areas and all ORV open areas.

5. It is prohibited to place into the ground any non-flexible object, such as, but not limited to, metal or wood stakes, poles, or pipes, with the exception of small tent or awning stakes, at all developed sites and areas and all ORV open areas.

6. It is prohibited to camp within the areas commonly known as Competition Hill Corridor and Competition Hill located within the Dumont Dunes ORV Area, as shown in the map at the entrance kiosk.

7. It is prohibited to reserve or save a camping space for another person at all developed sites and areas and all ORV open areas.

8. All persons must keep their sites free of trash and litter during the period of occupancy.

Employees and agents of the BLM are exempt from these rules during the performance of specific official duties as authorized by the CDD Manager, or the Ridgecrest, Barstow, Needles, Palm Springs-South Coast or El Centro Field Managers.



Section 3 – Penalties

On public lands under Section 303(a) of the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976 (43 U.S.C. 1733(a); 43 CFR 8360.0-7; 43 CFR 2932.57(b)), any person who violates any of these supplementary rules may be tried before a United States Magistrate and fined no more than $1,000 or imprisoned for no more than 12 months, or both.

Such violations may also be subject to the enhanced fines provided for by 18 U.S.C. 3571. Those who violate these rules may also be subject to civil action for unauthorized use of the public lands, violations of special recreation permit terms, conditions, or stipulations, or for uses beyond those allowed by the permit under 43 CFR 2932.57(b)(2).



For further information contact: Lynette Elser, Planning and Environmental Coordinator, BLM, California Desert District Office, 22835 Calle San Juan de los Lagos, Moreno Valley, CA 92553. Phone: (951) 697-5233 or email: lelser@ca.blm.gov


2442turborail
I think we are all in favor of the no pallets rule, but they really crossed the line on the public nudity thing. I mean let's use some common sense here.
MWBbanshee
QUOTE (2442turborail @ Jun 29 2010, 10:39 AM) *
I think we are all in favor of the no pallets rule, but they really crossed the line on the public nudity thing. I mean let's use some common sense here.

you might think it's funny but it's going to make going behind a dune to take a leak a little more interesting to say the least.
Crusty
Correct me if I'm wrong....

These Rules are nothing new to Glamis, BLM is simply implementing them across their other areas of management.

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Robbie
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2. It is prohibited for a person to ride in or transport another person in or on a portion of an ORV or trailer that is not designed or intended for the transportation of passengers.


4 seat rhinos?
free ride
QUOTE (Robbie @ Jun 29 2010, 12:23 PM) *
QUOTE
2. It is prohibited for a person to ride in or transport another person in or on a portion of an ORV or trailer that is not designed or intended for the transportation of passengers.


4 seat rhinos?



If so then you know who will be camping at wash 25. Have heard rumors of this law many times, guess well have to see if it is enforced. gonna piss off a lot of peeps if they enforce it. I am hoping they enforce based on the ones w/o roll cage, belts, or seats.
what hurts?
QUOTE (MWBbanshee @ Jun 29 2010, 12:09 PM) *
QUOTE (2442turborail @ Jun 29 2010, 10:39 AM) *
I think we are all in favor of the no pallets rule, but they really crossed the line on the public nudity thing. I mean let's use some common sense here.

you might think it's funny but it's going to make going behind a dune to take a leak a little more interesting to say the least.


Are they going to catch you red handed?
The shower scene from Porky's comes to mind....
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MWBbanshee
QUOTE (what hurts? @ Jun 29 2010, 01:21 PM) *
QUOTE (MWBbanshee @ Jun 29 2010, 12:09 PM) *
QUOTE (2442turborail @ Jun 29 2010, 10:39 AM) *
I think we are all in favor of the no pallets rule, but they really crossed the line on the public nudity thing. I mean let's use some common sense here.

you might think it's funny but it's going to make going behind a dune to take a leak a little more interesting to say the least.


Are they going to catch you red handed?
The shower scene from Porky's comes to mind....
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Line them I up I can identify that pecker........You can even put hoods over there heads.....
Kevin
QUOTE (free ride @ Jun 29 2010, 01:03 PM) *
QUOTE (Robbie @ Jun 29 2010, 12:23 PM) *
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2. It is prohibited for a person to ride in or transport another person in or on a portion of an ORV or trailer that is not designed or intended for the transportation of passengers.


4 seat rhinos?



If so then you know who will be camping at wash 25. Have heard rumors of this law many times, guess well have to see if it is enforced. gonna piss off a lot of peeps if they enforce it. I am hoping they enforce based on the ones w/o roll cage, belts, or seats.



technically they werent designed to carry passengers in back. who knows how they will deal with this.
O Soto Gari
my friend got a ticket in Glamis for his daughters riding in the rear seat of a golf cart. No roll cage, the cop said they had to have seatbelts. dunno.gif the ticket was for unsecured load..I don't know about any of you, but I am not riding in a golf cart without a roll cage wearing a seatbelt.
Emanon
5. It is prohibited to place into the ground any non-flexible object, such as, but not limited to, metal or wood stakes, poles, or pipes, with the exception of small tent or awning stakes, at all developed sites and areas and all ORV open areas.


A bunch of people are going to get pizzed about this!
Dune Carver
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4. Possession of glass beverage containers is prohibited in all developed sites and areas and all ORV open areas.


What about inside an RV?
L&L Corvairs
Personally, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this. <shrug>. The nudity thing has been illegal for some time. I also have no problem with the stakes in the ground. I remember one TG a few years ago where the yahoo’s next to us used metal fence stakes that couldn’t be seen in the dark to mark out their camp. Then they left them when they went home. A nasty accident waiting to happen.

Funny note: BLM employees exempt from rules. Guess that means the women rangers can be doing their jobs without any clothes on. tongue.gif
MWBbanshee
QUOTE (L&L Corvairs @ Jul 1 2010, 07:43 AM) *
Personally, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this. <shrug>. The nudity thing has been illegal for some time. I also have no problem with the stakes in the ground. I remember one TG a few years ago where the yahoo’s next to us used metal fence stakes that couldn’t be seen in the dark to mark out their camp. Then they left them when they went home. A nasty accident waiting to happen.

Funny note: BLM employees exempt from rules. Guess that means the women rangers can be doing their jobs without any clothes on. tongue.gif

Guess you do not like to play Horse Shoes
L&L Corvairs
QUOTE (MWBbanshee @ Jul 1 2010, 08:35 AM) *
Guess you do not like to play Horse Shoes



Actually, I do enjoy the occasional game of horseshoes. But I don’t spend upwards of $500 in gas and food and drive 2-3 hours to do that. Got better things to do at Glamis.

YMMV
UTV Mayhem
QUOTE (free ride @ Jun 29 2010, 01:03 PM) *
QUOTE (Robbie @ Jun 29 2010, 12:23 PM) *
QUOTE
2. It is prohibited for a person to ride in or transport another person in or on a portion of an ORV or trailer that is not designed or intended for the transportation of passengers.


4 seat rhinos?



If so then you know who will be camping at wash 25. Have heard rumors of this law many times, guess well have to see if it is enforced. gonna piss off a lot of peeps if they enforce it. I am hoping they enforce based on the ones w/o roll cage, belts, or seats.



the key word is "designed". by who? the manufacturer, a fabricator, me? when i add a four seat cage, harnesses and seats i just "designed" my rhino to hold four people. easy loop hole, you may need to fight it in court but its very loosely written IMO.
free ride
QUOTE (UTV Mayhem @ Jul 2 2010, 11:39 AM) *
QUOTE (free ride @ Jun 29 2010, 01:03 PM) *
QUOTE (Robbie @ Jun 29 2010, 12:23 PM) *
QUOTE
2. It is prohibited for a person to ride in or transport another person in or on a portion of an ORV or trailer that is not designed or intended for the transportation of passengers.


4 seat rhinos?



If so then you know who will be camping at wash 25. Have heard rumors of this law many times, guess well have to see if it is enforced. gonna piss off a lot of peeps if they enforce it. I am hoping they enforce based on the ones w/o roll cage, belts, or seats.



the key word is "designed". by who? the manufacturer, a fabricator, me? when i add a four seat cage, harnesses and seats i just "designed" my rhino to hold four people. easy loop hole, you may need to fight it in court but its very loosely written IMO.



ok...after thousands of dollars invested in my rhino I had to get clarification on this law. I just got off the phone with the law enforcement section of the El Centro office. Basicly he said this law DOES NOT outlaw 4 seat rhino's. The intention is to cite those riding in the back of rhino's/golf carts that don't have properly mounted seats/belts. I thought this was already illegal but what do I know. beer.gif
Sand Spaz
QUOTE (quad1100 @ Jun 29 2010, 08:54 PM) *
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4. Possession of glass beverage containers is prohibited in all developed sites and areas and all ORV open areas.


What about inside an RV?


At least this states Beverage Container. Now they can't write you for the glass pickle jar or the Mayo type stuff.

I don't drink from a glass container anyways. C&C in a Solo baby!
Exotica1
So if Mestoy rips her pants and her "booty" emerges,she can get a ticket? UH OH! sraptor.gif
Me's Toy
QUOTE (Exotica1 @ Jul 7 2010, 08:52 PM) *
So if Mestoy rips her pants and her "booty" emerges,she can get a ticket? UH OH! sraptor.gif



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WoodIsGood
QUOTE (MWBbanshee @ Jul 1 2010, 08:35 AM) *
QUOTE (L&L Corvairs @ Jul 1 2010, 07:43 AM) *
Personally, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this. <shrug>. The nudity thing has been illegal for some time. I also have no problem with the stakes in the ground. I remember one TG a few years ago where the yahoo’s next to us used metal fence stakes that couldn’t be seen in the dark to mark out their camp. Then they left them when they went home. A nasty accident waiting to happen.

Funny note: BLM employees exempt from rules. Guess that means the women rangers can be doing their jobs without any clothes on. tongue.gif

Guess you do not like to play Horse Shoes

The horseshoes ban is real. I asked BLM and got the following response:
QUOTE
non-flexible horseshoe stakes would not be allowed under this rule.

Lynnette Elser
Planning & Environmental Coordinator
California Desert District Office
951-697-5233

I never imagined that in an effort to "enhance the safety of visitors, protect public health, protect natural resources, and improve recreation experiences and opportunities" the government would outlaw playing horseshoes in significant portions of the desert. When will the insanity stop?

Guess I need to send them my polite comments explaining their apparent insanity before the July 26, 2010 deadline. Maybe you should too.
Robbie
That's gotta be one of the stupidest rules I've heard.

QUOTE (WoodIsGood @ Jul 8 2010, 12:07 PM) *
QUOTE (MWBbanshee @ Jul 1 2010, 08:35 AM) *
QUOTE (L&L Corvairs @ Jul 1 2010, 07:43 AM) *
Personally, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this. <shrug>. The nudity thing has been illegal for some time. I also have no problem with the stakes in the ground. I remember one TG a few years ago where the yahoo’s next to us used metal fence stakes that couldn’t be seen in the dark to mark out their camp. Then they left them when they went home. A nasty accident waiting to happen.

Funny note: BLM employees exempt from rules. Guess that means the women rangers can be doing their jobs without any clothes on. tongue.gif

Guess you do not like to play Horse Shoes

The horseshoes ban is real. I asked BLM and got the following response:
QUOTE
non-flexible horseshoe stakes would not be allowed under this rule.

Lynnette Elser
Planning & Environmental Coordinator
California Desert District Office
951-697-5233

I never imagined that in an effort to "enhance the safety of visitors, protect public health, protect natural resources, and improve recreation experiences and opportunities" the government would outlaw playing horseshoes in significant portions of the desert. When will the insanity stop?

Guess I need to send them my polite comments explaining their apparent insanity before the July 26, 2010 deadline. Maybe you should too.

77charger
Like they will really enforce these rules.

Think about it saving space and leaviong empty trailers is already a no no but have they ever done anything about that??
saychz316
QUOTE (77charger @ Jul 8 2010, 09:50 PM) *
Like they will really enforce these rules.

Think about it saving space and leaviong empty trailers is already a no no but have they ever done anything about that??



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Robbie
just another excuse to go all stormtrooper on otherwise law-abiding camps in the hope to find a 70 with the wrong color flag. sarcasm.gif
77charger
Yup another excuse but you know every year there are some that will say if you follow all the rules there will be no need for the BLM to come thru your camp doing a sweep.

Until it happens to them.

IMO they area dding these just to justify their tactics,The following year they can claim they have had more contacts and ask for more money which will probably come out of our season passes in the form of an increase.
Robbie
agree, its all about the "contacts"

when you see one person get stopped and ticked for a taillight, then each cop stops him at 50-100 foot intervals, is each stop a "contact"?
WLD-OTZ
here it is....

No person shall appear nude while in any unit [of the California State Park system] except in authorized areas set aside for that purpose by the Department. The word nude as used herein means unclothed or in such a state of undress as to expose any part or portion of the pubic or anal region or genitalia of any person or any portion of the breast at or below the areola thereof of any female person.

Note: Authority cited: Section 5003, Public Resources Code. Reference: Section 5008, Public Resources Code.

so if ya blow out yer ridin britches, you canna bend over... cheeks okay, but not the nay...


But where are the authorized areas, and how do we increase them?

John
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