dimez
Jul 7 2010, 03:16 PM
Hi,
First time poster, been lurking and learning for a while. I am new to ATC's but have been into CT70's for a while. I bought an 84 ATC70, had no spark. I want to get it running for my son's bday next month. I figured "this electrical system is dead simple, I can get it to spark". Well, after installing and setting brand new points, condenser, plug, plug wire and coil I still got nothin. I jumped the kill switch wires, wired them together. Still nothing. So I am stumped. I went step by step through everything (I think). It looks like only one black wire comes from the stator and leads to the coil, so I am running out of things to check. Anybody with more experience with these little beasties have an idea of where I can go next?
stugots
Jul 7 2010, 04:06 PM
Take test light to that wire that comes from the stator then pull the starter and see if you get a spark.
stugots
Jul 7 2010, 04:07 PM
Take test light to that wire that comes from the stator then pull the starter and see if you get a spark.
dimez
Jul 8 2010, 05:54 PM
QUOTE (Stugots @ Jul 7 2010, 08:07 PM)

Take test light to that wire that comes from the stator then pull the starter and see if you get a spark.
Yea, good spark there. Then as soon as i hook that wire to the longer wire leading to the coil - nothing. No spark anywhere. Does this mean there's a short somewhere?
wopachop
Jul 8 2010, 05:56 PM
me likey to learn
SANDPRO666
Jul 8 2010, 06:20 PM
maybe a bad coil??
stugots
Jul 8 2010, 06:58 PM
QUOTE (SANDPRO666 @ Jul 8 2010, 07:20 PM)

maybe a bad coil??

Thats what im thinking. I have bought new coils that were bad. .
dimez
Jul 9 2010, 03:45 AM
QUOTE (Stugots @ Jul 8 2010, 10:58 PM)

QUOTE (SANDPRO666 @ Jul 8 2010, 07:20 PM)

maybe a bad coil??

Thats what im thinking. I have bought new coils that were bad. .
I dunno. I think that coils almost never go bad and that would mean both the original coil was bad and then the brand new one too. I think that is possible but not very likely.
As soon as i hook the black wire from the stator to the long wire that goes to coil I get nothing - even back at the stator. I would think even if the coil was bad I would get spark back by the stator still? I'm not much of an electrical whiz, but I think if I jump the wires on the kill switch the circuit should be complete, isn't that correct?
This is frustrating and weird.
gotf550
Jul 9 2010, 05:26 AM
Your kill switch should be closed, jumped to ground when you want to kill the motor . Open the switch and give it a pull.
stugots
Jul 9 2010, 05:43 AM
QUOTE (dimez @ Jul 9 2010, 04:45 AM)

QUOTE (Stugots @ Jul 8 2010, 10:58 PM)

QUOTE (SANDPRO666 @ Jul 8 2010, 07:20 PM)

maybe a bad coil??

Thats what im thinking. I have bought new coils that were bad. .
I dunno. I think that coils almost never go bad and that would mean both the original coil was bad and then the brand new one too. I think that is possible but not very likely.
As soon as i hook the black wire from the stator to the long wire that goes to coil I get nothing - even back at the stator. I would think even if the coil was bad I would get spark back by the stator still? I'm not much of an electrical whiz, but I think if I jump the wires on the kill switch the circuit should be complete, isn't that correct?
This is frustrating and weird.
I have a box of bad coils, they do go out.
ElderGeek
Jul 9 2010, 04:11 PM
Your kill switch should be closed, jumped to ground when you want to kill the motor . Open the switch and give it a pull.
X2,
From your post: ....I jumped the kill switch wires, wired them together.
No sparky with the kill switch jumped or on.
Kill switch off = Open to ground
Kill Switch on = closed to ground
dimez
Jul 9 2010, 04:47 PM
QUOTE (ElderGeek @ Jul 9 2010, 08:11 PM)

Your kill switch should be closed, jumped to ground when you want to kill the motor . Open the switch and give it a pull.
X2,
From your post: ....I jumped the kill switch wires, wired them together.
No sparky with the kill switch jumped or on.
Kill switch off = Open to ground
Kill Switch on = closed to ground
Dude! There's my spark. You guys were bang on... got spark. Now to reassemble and fire that 70cc beast up! Thanks much for all the help for a lowly newb!
gotf550
Jul 9 2010, 09:19 PM
Glad I could help ya out, I made that mistake with a kill switch/ tether switch and scratched my head when it wouldn't shut off .
ElderGeek
Jul 10 2010, 09:43 AM
I'm still a newb too and I went through the same scenario on my first 70. All of them non-runners, two didn't shift, complete messes. I'm on #3 now and #2 went without a hitch. She fired right up.
But I do have a list of things I do now to bring them back from the dead. Maybe I'll start a thread on that.
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