Full Version: Raptor Pipe and Silencer. What should I get?
I just crashed my Honda 400 ex beyond repair and now I'm going out to buy a Raptor 660 R. What kind of pipe should I buy? what do you recommend? Guys with Raptors, what kind of pipes/silencers do you have? Thanks for all your help.
Go to DIRTWHEELS.COM they had a pipe shoot out a few months ago start looking there!! CT was the best pipe for power then it was yoshimura. As for noise though the CT is about 103 dbls and the Yoshimura was about 100 dbls! If that matters to you.
Get the Yoshi. The CT put out more HP in the dirtwheels test only because the airbox was completely opened. The Yoshi's fit and finish is second to none. The CT looks like crap (I'm just not a fan of the looks of the disc systems).
Ben, Do yourself a favor and buy the Z400 Suzuki.
Or maybe even the Polaris Predator Or better yet ask some of those on the board what they think of their Raptors. Like Crowbars friend ( sorry I couldn't remember his online name) I'd do a little research if it was me. Then again thats just my .02![[Bandit]](graemlins/bandit.gif)
BTW how did you crash your 400EX? Do you believe that the raptor would have faired better? just curious.
Or maybe even the Polaris Predator Or better yet ask some of those on the board what they think of their Raptors. Like Crowbars friend ( sorry I couldn't remember his online name) I'd do a little research if it was me. Then again thats just my .02
BTW how did you crash your 400EX? Do you believe that the raptor would have faired better? just curious.
If you are a small person (less than 170lbs) then the Z400 is a nice choice, no doubt. However, any bigger and get the Raptor or if you love to make bigger HP then the additional cylinder volume makes a HUGE difference. I know, I own both bikes and love them both. Get the Trinity pipe no question, the CT is far over-rated and fits like crap. Trinity pipe, jet kit, Pro Design intake with a modified air box and that bike will run hard. In fact there is no one who knows the Raptor engine like Trinity, as hard as it is for me to say that, Harry knows that motor the best.
Treshombre, I was looking back at a guy I was racing (Fourtrax 300 ex) and not paying attention infront of me. When I looked ahead there was a Ford Ranger (pre-runner) right infront of me (about 20 feet) and I hit the front/rear brakes before slamming into the back... Luckily I didn't get ejected from the bike and luckily I was completely okay. The front end of the bike was destroyed, we couldn't even find the ignition to the bike. There's extensive frame damage to the front, so they're telling me it's not worth it to try to fix it up. The motor is completely fine though, and brand new. I was thinking about getting the Raptor because of the power it has. I want somethiing with a ton of power and at the same something that can get up to 90 mph without any problem. My 400 ex only made it up to 65 mph in 5th gear pinned (it was stock)...
About the Suzuki Z400, I know this quad is far better than the Honda 400 ex. I learned this shortly after buying my 400. But I'm looking for a high top speed and a ton of power in a quad. That's why I wanted to buy the Raptor. Does the Z400 have a ton of power, or am I going to be disappointed with it's power, like in the 400 ex?
In that case you might want to look at the bombadier DS650 (I think) Or even the new Polaris Predator, reviews on it have been outstanding but I'm sure there are doubters out there that question its credibility, I would guess that it would have to handle better than the Raptor. But first year run and all that could be a gamble.... definitely turn some heads and everybody and their brother will want to race you including me ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
What do I have against the Raptor? I don't like duel carbs on a bike, and I think they are top heavy and prone to tipping over easily. And I don't think the suspension (stock) is worth a crap. (dives like a submarine when braking into corners) But thats just one guys opinion... I'm sure if you got the Raptor and did a bunch of mods to it, it could be as fast as the stock Predator. Good luck!
What do I have against the Raptor? I don't like duel carbs on a bike, and I think they are top heavy and prone to tipping over easily. And I don't think the suspension (stock) is worth a crap. (dives like a submarine when braking into corners) But thats just one guys opinion... I'm sure if you got the Raptor and did a bunch of mods to it, it could be as fast as the stock Predator. Good luck!
If you buy the Raptor buy a bunch of tie-rods also. We are on the 5th set so far and now the ball joints are going bad. Thats an 03 raptor also.
We even put on aftermarket tie rods and broke them 2 weeks ago in a race. What we are finding is the suspension in the Raptor is to hard for the hardware to support it. Its just Banshee shocks that are maxed out so the ride is stiff to support the extra weight of the bike. The Yami folks of course deny this but they still cant figure out how a 140 lbs rider can break the tie rods in every race hes been in.
Sometimes to much power to weight can be very dangerous, and in this case I believe that to be the story. If anything leave the motor stock and work the crap out of the suspension.
whew.. all that in one breath.. .02 worth anyways.
We even put on aftermarket tie rods and broke them 2 weeks ago in a race. What we are finding is the suspension in the Raptor is to hard for the hardware to support it. Its just Banshee shocks that are maxed out so the ride is stiff to support the extra weight of the bike. The Yami folks of course deny this but they still cant figure out how a 140 lbs rider can break the tie rods in every race hes been in.
Sometimes to much power to weight can be very dangerous, and in this case I believe that to be the story. If anything leave the motor stock and work the crap out of the suspension.
whew.. all that in one breath.. .02 worth anyways.
I Have an 01 Raptor and am Running the FMF Power Bomb and POwer Core 4 Silencer, so far no complaints and easy install
Also Get the K&N Power Kit, Cut the Lid for the Air Box. and you will be very pleased with the Performance.
The Only Mechanical Problems I have had (besides me bending the S**t outta the rear Axle) is the Starter is having Problems.
And 1 Minor other Problem is that STUPID DESIGN for the Key and Light Indicator thingy
Raptor easily beats the Zuki with same setup.
Although Zuki is a Nice Bike.
Also Get the K&N Power Kit, Cut the Lid for the Air Box. and you will be very pleased with the Performance.
The Only Mechanical Problems I have had (besides me bending the S**t outta the rear Axle) is the Starter is having Problems.
And 1 Minor other Problem is that STUPID DESIGN for the Key and Light Indicator thingy
Raptor easily beats the Zuki with same setup.
Although Zuki is a Nice Bike.
Get the DS650. Mine was stock and I could walk all over stock raptors. I even raced a raptor that had been re-jetted and new pipe and I was still able to stay close. There suspension does suck and it brakes. And the actuall sitting position is way to high. The DS might be a little heavy but it has the power to get it to do what you want it to. I regularly jump mine 4 to 6 feet in the air and its like landing on cushions. The DS is probably one of the best dunning machines out right now!
quote:Since when do you own a Raptor Rob?????
Originally posted by Chummin:
If you buy the Raptor buy a bunch of tie-rods also. We are on the 5th set so far and now the ball joints are going bad. Thats an 03 raptor also.
We even put on aftermarket tie rods and broke them 2 weeks ago in a race. What we are finding is the suspension in the Raptor is to hard for the hardware to support it. Its just Banshee shocks that are maxed out so the ride is stiff to support the extra weight of the bike. The Yami folks of course deny this but they still cant figure out how a 140 lbs rider can break the tie rods in every race hes been in.
Sometimes to much power to weight can be very dangerous, and in this case I believe that to be the story. If anything leave the motor stock and work the crap out of the suspension.
whew.. all that in one breath.. .02 worth anyways.
More disception? Secrets, Lies, when is this going to end? Your really starting to scare me dude
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Actually, its my brother-n-lawd bikes. He has dumped a ton in to it and he is starting to get upset with it. In race conditions there seems to be no end to the suspension troubles.
Didn't mean to make it sound like it was mine..![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
There is just the one 'thing'. thats all. I swear..
[ 11-12-2002, 03:10 PM: Message edited by: Chummin ]
Didn't mean to make it sound like it was mine..
There is just the one 'thing'. thats all. I swear..
[ 11-12-2002, 03:10 PM: Message edited by: Chummin ]
The Z is a very nice bike, especially if you are under 170lbs or so. If so, get it. It runs very strong and there is no disappointment with the DR derived double overhead cam engine it has. Alot people on here talk about bikes they don't own, their brother bike, a friends bike or some other rumor. I really like the Z and the motor has great potential. It dyno's 2-3 HP less than the Raptor stock and with a pipe, jet kit and air box mod it beats stock Raptors pretty good in the dunes. It is a bit wheelie happy though.
Now the DS. The DS is a very nice dune bike, especially for the motor-home sized people out there. If you want to get some big power out of the DS, then forget it without breaking the bank. Ron Woods and Team Pami are the main tuners and to do a big bore or stroker kit on those bikes is OUTRAGEOUS.
Raptor has the easiest upgrade path to big HP. Take for example the third gen Trinity 686 kits. On the factory carbs you will get 64hp and on FCR's right at 70hp! That is more than enough to beat a helluva lot bikes at the dunes.
As an ex-desert racer (D-38), I find the Raptor very easy to ride and I kinda like the tall stance in the desert. Just my opinion on those two quads, because I own them both, not my brothers uncle sisters cousin............
Now the DS. The DS is a very nice dune bike, especially for the motor-home sized people out there. If you want to get some big power out of the DS, then forget it without breaking the bank. Ron Woods and Team Pami are the main tuners and to do a big bore or stroker kit on those bikes is OUTRAGEOUS.
Raptor has the easiest upgrade path to big HP. Take for example the third gen Trinity 686 kits. On the factory carbs you will get 64hp and on FCR's right at 70hp! That is more than enough to beat a helluva lot bikes at the dunes.
As an ex-desert racer (D-38), I find the Raptor very easy to ride and I kinda like the tall stance in the desert. Just my opinion on those two quads, because I own them both, not my brothers uncle sisters cousin............
There is only one choice here Ben, get the CT. Look at the dyno charts on the dirtwheels website and notice at the dive all these pipes take after their peak. Some even drop below the stocker! Do yourself a favor bud and get the CT. Off subject, I have a first year production Rap and the only troubles I've had is the starter clutch. The tipping prob. was fixed with a Dura-Blue Eliminator axle. For comparoes on DS650's look to CT Racing's web page and see the weak #'s put up by these "piped" quads. Something like 41HP!!! Raptor is the ONLY way to go. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
If I decide to get the Raptor, I'm going to make it all tricked out anyway. I'll end up getting new suspension (probably Ohlins with piggyback reservoirs), new a-arms (lonestar - chrome), http://www.motojoe.com/atv/lonestar/chasco...chrome_aarm.gif
and I'm still debating pipes/silencers (CT sounds good)... I'll be getting the Pro Design Pro-Flow Intake System with K&N Filter, and a bunch of Chromed out s***. I plan on keeping whatever bike I buy next for a while... I don't like the problems I'm hearing about with the Raptor. These things are covered under the warranty, right? I don't really know much about this DS650, but I do remember seeing it at Motoworld and Fun Bike Center. I'm going to research this bike more and see if it's worth buying. Any input from DS650 owners would be greatly appreciated. For know though, I'm thinking about the Raptor. As for those Raptor stock axles breaking, that's not good. I can't have that happening to me when I'm in the middle of the dunes... Thanks for all your replies.
and I'm still debating pipes/silencers (CT sounds good)... I'll be getting the Pro Design Pro-Flow Intake System with K&N Filter, and a bunch of Chromed out s***. I plan on keeping whatever bike I buy next for a while... I don't like the problems I'm hearing about with the Raptor. These things are covered under the warranty, right? I don't really know much about this DS650, but I do remember seeing it at Motoworld and Fun Bike Center. I'm going to research this bike more and see if it's worth buying. Any input from DS650 owners would be greatly appreciated. For know though, I'm thinking about the Raptor. As for those Raptor stock axles breaking, that's not good. I can't have that happening to me when I'm in the middle of the dunes... Thanks for all your replies.
Anyone who quotes Dirt Wheels cannot be considered serious, can they? Really? The reason the CT pipe did so well in the Dirt Wheels article was for two reasons. 1. CT was the ONLY company that did air box mod's to the test and jetted for it. Anyone who knows anything about the Raptor, understands that makes a HUGE difference. It was a PIPE test, but CT made it a pipe and air box mod test. 2. The dyno was done at CT. I have run CT gear in the past on my 250R, but no one with a fast Raptor that I have ever seen runs a CT pipe.
I live in Arizona, so I never knew Harry at Trinity until I did my OWN research on work works and what doesn't and Harry's stuff is top quality for the Raptor.
Do yourselves a favor, don't take Dirt Rags word for anything, go to the dunes for a couple of weekends and see what the fastest Raptors are running.
People are more than willing to see my Raptor run at most every big weekend at Glamis. Blue Raptor, +4" swingarm, Trinity preped Raptor with Silver Full Bore plastic and HID lights.
I live in Arizona, so I never knew Harry at Trinity until I did my OWN research on work works and what doesn't and Harry's stuff is top quality for the Raptor.
Do yourselves a favor, don't take Dirt Rags word for anything, go to the dunes for a couple of weekends and see what the fastest Raptors are running.
People are more than willing to see my Raptor run at most every big weekend at Glamis. Blue Raptor, +4" swingarm, Trinity preped Raptor with Silver Full Bore plastic and HID lights.
just get a banshee
Just to clear things up Raptor747, Chummin owns a Z400 and can flat fly thru the dunes.... I mean that Chummin has won Score events, Hare scrambles you name it.
Sounds like The Raptor fits your riding style and needs. My experience has been from talking with countless Raptor owners as I was contemplating buying a quad and I wanted to hear fom people that owned them. I am a bit suspect of the reliabilitiy of a bike that is " tricked " out to the point that 100' of elevation change will force me to rejet because I have jetted it on the edge. OK its fun watching all the modded bikes... But I don't sit at the Hill and race up and down all day/night I enjoy riding the dunes far more and reliability to me is worth getting beat up the hill by a minority of bikes. Also I do my own wrenching and I've seen enough groups of people standing around staring at their Raptors wondering why they cut out at this speed and that.... To me its about duning and my mods would be to the suspension first.
I mean that Chummin has won Score events, Hare scrambles you name it.Sounds like The Raptor fits your riding style and needs. My experience has been from talking with countless Raptor owners as I was contemplating buying a quad and I wanted to hear fom people that owned them. I am a bit suspect of the reliabilitiy of a bike that is " tricked " out to the point that 100' of elevation change will force me to rejet because I have jetted it on the edge. OK its fun watching all the modded bikes... But I don't sit at the Hill and race up and down all day/night I enjoy riding the dunes far more and reliability to me is worth getting beat up the hill by a minority of bikes. Also I do my own wrenching and I've seen enough groups of people standing around staring at their Raptors wondering why they cut out at this speed and that.... To me its about duning and my mods would be to the suspension first.
No worries Treshombres! I am an old retired D38 rider back in the Wax and Sundahl prime eras and I enjoy a fast ride as much as the next guy. I have never owned a hill-shooting quad before including some reasonably fast Banshee's, just all-around great duners. I do currently own a Z400 (wifes), Raptor 727 big bore (11:1 pump gas motor) and a Banshee, so that is a good cross-section of quads. Point was simple on CT and the magazine article, it was basically a 100% set-up given the circumstances. The Raptor only has s +4 swingarm because it has close to 70hp, but it does have +2 a-arms, steering dampener (because i like high speed whoops) and LSR + axle. We dune 80% of the time and hill shot and do the sand drags and such the remainder.
Jetting? Once they are set, they remain that way for the season. Sure, if I hit the fire roads of Northern Arizona I do re-jet. The bike is fitted with nice bright HID lights for serious night riding, not just running over knuckleheads at Comp![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Just another opinion on here, that is all...
Jetting? Once they are set, they remain that way for the season. Sure, if I hit the fire roads of Northern Arizona I do re-jet. The bike is fitted with nice bright HID lights for serious night riding, not just running over knuckleheads at Comp
Just another opinion on here, that is all...
I have the 02 raptor and the first thing I did was get JD Performance +2 A-arms and Elka zero preloads. Talk about a world of difference I love it now I am putting on a pipe and airbox mod. The change in the front was awesome definitly zero preload is the way to go.
Doc
Doc
Thanks for the advice, after I buy my Raptor, I'll start with the suspension. I'm thinking about either the Elka or the Ohlins... and the Lone Star Racing Chrome +2" A-Arms. Is the Elka better than the Ohlins?
D0N'T DO IT BEN !!!
Did I mention that Yamahas are evil?
Did you know the Yamaha logo is really a Satanic
crest?![[Uhoh]](graemlins/uhoh.gif)
You don't want to support Satan do you? Of course not Get the Z if you have to but stay away from the ill fated Yamaha!!!!
[ 11-13-2002, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: treshombre ]
Did I mention that Yamahas are evil?
Did you know the Yamaha logo is really a Satanic
crest?
You don't want to support Satan do you? Of course not Get the Z if you have to but stay away from the ill fated Yamaha!!!! [ 11-13-2002, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: treshombre ]
Yeah its my brothers, cousins, moms, friends bike. I have ridden the crap out of it plenty of times so its not the stories my bro is telling me. Its my experience with the bike that I pass on to you.
Looks like a common denominator here in this thread. Suspension is the first thing to upgrade. What good is the power if you cant keep the wheels on the ground.
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Looks like a common denominator here in this thread. Suspension is the first thing to upgrade. What good is the power if you cant keep the wheels on the ground.
Treshomre, what kind of bike do you have? I like the Z400, it sounds like a nice bike, but I want a bike with a ton of power behind those rear wheels. I don't think the Z400 can pull the power I want it to... Do you think the Z has the power I'm looking for?
no it doesnt. I have one and I am not a fan of the power. Working on gearing now so I can dune it in 3rd instead in and out of 2nd all the time.. You want raw power, banshee or raptor is the way for you.
Chummin I'm gonna beat the livin !@#$!#@@%#@#
Imagine a "So Called" Honda guy promoting a Yamaha![[Angry Fire]](graemlins/angryfire.gif)
I'm gonna bring this up at the next HONDA board meeting
Ben, I ride a CR250 2 wheeler and at night I ride an 86' 250R three wheeler ( Hence the name Tres)
Don't laugh at the three wheeler I've beaten plenty of unsuspecting banshees on that thing.
But lately I have been eyeing the Z400. I think Chummins going the wrong route though... I think the pipe and jetting will get you where you need to be and I'll tell you why, The Z400 is a green sticker bike, The factory has to detune the hell out of it to meet epa standards... If you want to know the real skinny call or go by Alba .... Well you know just Alba They are some pretty smart cookies for being a ..... Well you know they sell those other bike too. And I've been studying the Predator I like what I have read but I want to see and ride one before making a 6K mistake. But what I have read on the suspension is pretty amazing. The DS650 is also a consideration... I've already given my reasons for not liking the Raptor but I am sure with enough mod$ it could be made to be a duner as well. If you really want to haul a$$ why not go to a two wheeler? A CRF450 will beat almost any quad. That will be my next two wheeler when I'm done with the 02 CR. If you do make the mistake of buying the Raptor I'd still go to Alba, They have a Raptor package which is a new Raptor already piped and jetted etc. for about the same amount other dealers charge for a stock bike. And they do know their stuff! Here is the link :
http://www.albaaction.com/
Good Luck!!
Imagine a "So Called" Honda guy promoting a Yamaha
I'm gonna bring this up at the next HONDA board meeting Ben, I ride a CR250 2 wheeler and at night I ride an 86' 250R three wheeler ( Hence the name Tres)
Don't laugh at the three wheeler I've beaten plenty of unsuspecting banshees on that thing.
But lately I have been eyeing the Z400. I think Chummins going the wrong route though... I think the pipe and jetting will get you where you need to be and I'll tell you why, The Z400 is a green sticker bike, The factory has to detune the hell out of it to meet epa standards... If you want to know the real skinny call or go by Alba .... Well you know just Alba They are some pretty smart cookies for being a ..... Well you know they sell those other bike too. And I've been studying the Predator I like what I have read but I want to see and ride one before making a 6K mistake. But what I have read on the suspension is pretty amazing. The DS650 is also a consideration... I've already given my reasons for not liking the Raptor but I am sure with enough mod$ it could be made to be a duner as well. If you really want to haul a$$ why not go to a two wheeler? A CRF450 will beat almost any quad. That will be my next two wheeler when I'm done with the 02 CR. If you do make the mistake of buying the Raptor I'd still go to Alba, They have a Raptor package which is a new Raptor already piped and jetted etc. for about the same amount other dealers charge for a stock bike. And they do know their stuff! Here is the link :
http://www.albaaction.com/
Good Luck!!
Ben, my .03 sents...
Buy the Z400 and the money you were going to dump into the suspension on the Raptor, dump into the motor on the Z. That would give you the best quad your money could buy.
I've riden the Z400 and spanked a Banshees ais, rode a Banshee and spanked a Raptors ass. The 400EX just flat out sucks in the power department.
Like Tres said, the Z is tuned way down, and for what a 660 cc motor should do, the Yami sucks...
Then to top it off, it don't handle for shiat!
Buy the Z, have beautiful suspension off the show room floor, dump a little money into the motor and it WILL spank any Raptor's ais.
The Raptor's motor really does suck, yes it's a little more powerful than the Honda and the Suzuki, but it's 660 cc's... It should be killing 'em. Motor sucks.
Go with the Z400 put your money into the motor, can't go wrong!!!
Buy the Z400 and the money you were going to dump into the suspension on the Raptor, dump into the motor on the Z. That would give you the best quad your money could buy.
I've riden the Z400 and spanked a Banshees ais, rode a Banshee and spanked a Raptors ass. The 400EX just flat out sucks in the power department.
Like Tres said, the Z is tuned way down, and for what a 660 cc motor should do, the Yami sucks...
Then to top it off, it don't handle for shiat!
Buy the Z, have beautiful suspension off the show room floor, dump a little money into the motor and it WILL spank any Raptor's ais.
The Raptor's motor really does suck, yes it's a little more powerful than the Honda and the Suzuki, but it's 660 cc's... It should be killing 'em. Motor sucks.
Go with the Z400 put your money into the motor, can't go wrong!!!
Ben, buy a good used Honda 250r. With the money you would be putting into a new quad and all the aftermarket stuff you would have a ripper.
They might be old but they are fast and reliable. Just my 2 cents
They might be old but they are fast and reliable. Just my 2 cents
I was in motoworld of El Cajon today, and I started reading one of their ATV magazines. There was a shootout (it wasn't a dirt wheels magazine) between the 660R Raptor and the Suzuki Z 400. I read the whole article and when I was done, the Z 400 stood out as the quad I want to buy. So, the Yamaha Raptor I'm NOT going to buy. I can save money and have a really great quad with the Z 400, rather than the 660r. Thanks for all your inputs. um... Now, where should I start with the aftermarket parts for the Z?
If you just dune ride i would get the raptor,I have one, my buddy has a z400 and cant touch me in the dunes, his bike does shine in just about every other area,better jumper,ergonomics,handling,etc.As far as pipes i have the curtis sparks X-6 stainless,went from 37hp to 43hp with just the pipe and jett kit.
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quote:Sounds like your friend just needs to learn to ride. If he does, you better watch out...
Originally posted by Xtermin8r:
If you just dune ride i would get the raptor,I have one, my buddy has a z400 and cant touch me in the dunes, his bike does shine in just about every other area,better jumper,ergonomics,handling,etc.As far as pipes i have the curtis sparks X-6 stainless,went from 37hp to 43hp with just the pipe and jett kit.
The 660 motor is highly de-tuned from the factory and responds incredibly well to a cam change, head work with bigger valves and the matched bore. If you do the pump gas piston (11:1), then go ahead and do a rowdy cam (Harry at Trinity knows exactly what to do) that will give you some big top end gains. You will need the Carillo rod as well. In order to do the 727 you must do the FCR carb's, so that add's quite a bit of cost to the equation. It would be under carbed without them. You can get away with a 686, Pro Port with bigger valves and factory rod with stock carbs and get around 63hp (wheels), which is a great solution and cost-effective as well.
PM if you need anything else.
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PM if you need anything else.
quote:
Originally posted by stonhedge:
Raptor 727, I was just about to have a 727 big bore kit with a pump gas piston installed, can you give me some info, maybe pm me if you want. Thanks
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Good decision Ben, You are a smart guy
Here is a link to Dirt Wheels article on the z vs the raptor I don't know what anyone has against dirt wheels but the article seemed fairly intuitive.
http://www.dirtwheelsmag.com/newsite/news.asp
Ben, you gonna have your bike in time for t-day?
Here is a link to Dirt Wheels article on the z vs the raptor I don't know what anyone has against dirt wheels but the article seemed fairly intuitive.
http://www.dirtwheelsmag.com/newsite/news.asp
Ben, you gonna have your bike in time for t-day?
Treshombre
Unfortunately, I won't the new Z400 by Thanksgiving. I have to sell my 400 ex first and then save up the money to get the Z. I just got a Repair Quote on the 400 ex today and it came out to $1,985 in parts and $540 in labor if I decide not to do the work myself. So, I'm selling the Honda 400 ex for $3,000.00. It's still a new bike, just broken. I haven't even gotten the green stickers in the mail yet. So, the Z400 is ready to buy, I just need to save the money, or take out a loan after I sell the 400ex. who knows? I'll keep you posted on what I'm doing with the situation.
Unfortunately, I won't the new Z400 by Thanksgiving. I have to sell my 400 ex first and then save up the money to get the Z. I just got a Repair Quote on the 400 ex today and it came out to $1,985 in parts and $540 in labor if I decide not to do the work myself. So, I'm selling the Honda 400 ex for $3,000.00. It's still a new bike, just broken. I haven't even gotten the green stickers in the mail yet. So, the Z400 is ready to buy, I just need to save the money, or take out a loan after I sell the 400ex. who knows? I'll keep you posted on what I'm doing with the situation.
Bummer, Too bad you can't find someone that has upgraded all of their suspension and still have the stock stuff. Anyways good luck and look on the bright side you could have gotten really hurt if you were riding a Yamaha.... Ask Chevota
treshombre
The Honda 400 ex's design prevented me from getting hurt because the fenders crushed and insulated the impact. I was looking at the Banshee's design and I noticed that if I was on a Yamaha Banshee instead of the 400 ex, I would have been ejected from the bike and quite possibly severely injured.
The Honda 400 ex's design prevented me from getting hurt because the fenders crushed and insulated the impact. I was looking at the Banshee's design and I noticed that if I was on a Yamaha Banshee instead of the 400 ex, I would have been ejected from the bike and quite possibly severely injured.
If you increase the jug size and do the larger valves and sufficient porting then the stock carbs just don't cut it, plus you will be out about 8hp without the FCR's. Call Harry at Trinity Racing and tell him Mark from Arizona referred you on the 727. No one understands the Raptor motor and what it takes to make the head work right on that engine in the West like Harry.
I have a turbo kit available if you need one from a guy here and also have a very good hook-up with the guys in Puerto Rico that have built the most kits. Seriously, give Harry a call.
Let me know how I can help.
I have a turbo kit available if you need one from a guy here and also have a very good hook-up with the guys in Puerto Rico that have built the most kits. Seriously, give Harry a call.
Let me know how I can help.
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Originally posted by stonhedge:
Cost isn't really a factor, whats up with these carbs, I was talking with CT about turn-around time and this and that, and they didn't mention up-grading the carbs? And do you know of anybody that has done the 727 and a Turbo? Looking at doing both, but can't find anyone that has done both, or any place (local) that can do both?
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