WaPaWeKkA
Oct 28 2002, 01:38 PM
I got a 86' Honda 250R and while I was in Oregon, I took a jump, landed and it died. I kick it a few times, before I checked the spark plug and found out there was no spark to it...anybody got any ideas about whats wrong with it ?? I don't want to take it to somebody to look at because I really don't have the money!
Shane-0
Oct 28 2002, 01:52 PM
Maybe you just have bad luck with bikes Andrew...
RRon3
Oct 28 2002, 03:32 PM
I have seen this happen on a few Banshees and the guys went through everything, just to find that a wire had burned to the pipe. Check your electrical wires and make sure that they are not ground to the pipe.
ROKJAMR
Oct 29 2002, 08:53 PM
When I did a complete rebuild of my Quadzilla I had the same problem when I put it all back together. Come to find out when I was reinstalling the gas tank I accidently pulled a wire and the connector pulled apart just enough too were it looked like it was connected but wasn't making contact.
Maybe the jump pulled something or like the previous post, you burnt a wire. I had the same problem with my truck. The wires looked good from above, but flip it over and they were burnt. Replaced the burnt wires and BAM. Fired right up.
Good Luck.
Zogman
Oct 29 2002, 09:11 PM
Andrew, Since you are looking to save some $$$. The best bet is to buy yourself a 250R maint, manual. I put a link below for one for sale on Ebay. You can also pick one up at your local dealer. Anyway, I've been down your road many times. I own (4) 250R's and I've had every problem at least once. Anyway, all you need is a voltmeter and the manual and you can trouleshoot anything on the bike. The 250R has a very durable electrical system. Chances are that your stator is Kaput!!!. I've replaced (3) so far. Another good way to troubleshoot is to get a buddies 250R side by side and start swapping things like the pulse genereator (COIL)and CDI. Good luck.
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fnmeyers
Oct 30 2002, 08:22 AM
Yep..Check the stator. You can have them re-wound for cheap. Look in the back of some mags...Check it.
Valkema
Oct 30 2002, 08:34 AM
I had the same thing happen on my banshee last weekend. Turns out one of the wires came disconnected on the cdi. I would check that out before buying anything new.
WaPaWeKkA
Nov 3 2002, 09:08 PM
Thx guys for the advice. I'll prolly start taking it apart and looking at everything good sometime this week. Make sure everything is in place. I hope to have it done to beable to go on Thanksgiving! Later
WaPaWeKkA
Nov 16 2002, 11:46 AM
I took the bike apart to find pretty much nothing wrong with the wires and such, but I got one question. I got this ANSWER booster deal from when I had my old pipe on it and a few wires run into that. You think that could be bad or something, at first I didn't know what it did, so i just left it on there when I put my FMF on it???
treshombre
Nov 16 2002, 04:15 PM
I'd go along with Zogman about the manual.
But I wouldn't buy a single part before I knew what was wrong. I would be willing to bet there is a connector loose somewhere. coming down from a jump does not ruin a stater unless you jump off a 500' cliff . Also check the kill switch light assembly if the kill switch is grounding out you will have no spark. sounds like something got disconnected upon landing.Where do you live? I have the manual and an extra CDI for that bike If you live anywhere near Temecula you can bring it by, but I'd bet a six pack its a connector or the kill switch.
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PS. double.... no, triple check the wires under the gas tank
leadfoot350
Nov 16 2002, 07:30 PM
On a blaster the coil or whatever it is on a 2 stroke broke its mount on the frame.
big had
Nov 17 2002, 06:18 AM
Andrew, are you talking about a roost boost? That is an electrical spark enhancer that gives off a more stable and consistant higher voltage spark.
Unless you get a volt meter, all of us are just guessing in the wind.
lifer
Nov 18 2002, 11:01 AM
Wapa, The high voltage cap (the part that snaps onto the top of the spark plug)has a sheet metal screw type of attachment for the lead from the coil. Check to insure that the contact is firm at the point.
Can you guess how I found this out?
DUNE
Nov 18 2002, 11:39 AM
You are talking about the Answer roost boost right? Get rid of it, From what I was told from the factory rep at answer the roost boost does very little for the 86 four trax.
Now that one possible bad component is gone, start cking your wiring from your stator to the connector under the gas tank on the left side of the bike. Pull it apart and clean the terminals. Moisture gets into this area and causes shorts. It happen to me once. then trace the wires to the on/off switch on the handle bars and take it a part. Watch out that you don't loss any parts and clean it thoroughly. Then ck the connector at the CDI box to make sure that it hasn't worked loss. Your problem is some were alone this root. 9 times out of 10 it's just a bad connection.
Esco
Nov 18 2002, 01:07 PM
sell that bike and get a yamaha
DUNE
Nov 18 2002, 01:27 PM
NO NO don't do it. You will hate yourself in the morning.
tony_250r
Nov 18 2002, 06:18 PM
This is my 2 cents!
Did you use a spark tester, or are you grounding the plug to the engine to preform the spark test? Sometimes the spark is hard to see using the later method.
Start off by using a new spark plug to check for spark. If you don't have a spark tester, have someone else kick the engine over while you ground the spark plug to the engine. Use an unpainted ground. A cylinder head nut would be a good ground. Preform the test in a shaded too, this makes the spark easier to see.
If would like me to FAX you the electrical troubleshooting procedures and specs, just let me know.
When I check for spark, I normally start at the spark plug and then work my way back to the on and off switch. I start with the wiggle test, and then I use a continuity tester.
After I'm sure that all of my connections are solid, I start testing the components. To test the components you'll need to test mainly for ohms. You'll need a multi meter for some of the test, remember it'll needs to test for ohms.
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