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Picketers protest dune closure to offroaders
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People gather on Hidden Valley Road on the north side of Palomar Airport Road in Carlsbad and protesti the closing of sand dunes in Imperial County to off road vehicle recreation use.

By: TIM MAYER - Staff Writer

CARLSBAD ---- Local politicians joined about 100 people and an almost equal number of Jeeps, 4-wheel-drive pickups, dune buggies and campers Friday to protest a decision by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to keep a plant on the endangered species list, a decision they believe could shut them out of a huge tract of sand dunes in Imperial County.

Picketers carried signs and vehicles were liberally decorated with slogans, including "Plants Don't Pay Taxes," "Preserve Our Offroad Lifestyle" and "Plants Don't Vote."

Pointing to the wildlife agency's nearby regional offices on Hidden Valley Road, county Supervisor Bill Horn said "these people, they are after your property. If you own property in San Diego County, they are after it."

State Sen. Bill Morrow, R-Oceanside, brought his mud-splattered Chevy 4X4 to the demonstration and told the crowd that "in a way, we're fighting for our lives, something near and dear to our lives."

"Our opponents ... want to prevent all human access to public lands," he said.

State Sen. Dennis Hollingsworth, R-Murrieta, who also attended Friday's demonstration, said he believes the federal Endangered Species Act "has been fundamentally broken for a long time."

A spokesman for an environmental organization involved in a years-long legal battle to protect the dunes and their native plants and animals called the demonstration "just a temper tantrum."

"Offroaders already have access to (more than) 50 percent of the dunes," said David Hogan of the Center for Biological Diversity. "It seems they are really about excess, not access."

The protest was organized by the American Sand Association, a national group representing offroad fans and related businesses. It came after the announcement early this month that officials with the wildlife agency had rejected a petition by the sand association and other organizations to have the plant known as Peirson's milkvetch removed from the federal endangered species list.

The flowering plant species is found only in the 300-mile-long, five- to eight-mile-wide area known as the Algodones Dunes in California and an extension of the dune system in Mexico called the Gran Desierto, said Fish and Wildlife spokeswoman Jane Hendron.

The plant has been listed as endangered since 1998. About 49,000 acres of the 185,000-acre area of 200- to 500-foot tall dunes has been closed to vehicles since 2000 by the area's manager, the federal Bureau of Land Management. The ban is temporary while studies of the plant and area continue, officials said.

About 26,000 acres of the dunes were also set aside as a permanently protected wilderness area by the state in 1994, Hendron said.

American Sand Association officials said they hired their own scientists to evaluate the plant over the last three years and contend the plant is not endangered and that the dunes should be opened.

Mark Briant, spokesman for the Sand Association and the San Diego-based Offroad Business Association, said their scientists had counted more than 71,000 plants in the dunes.

"The plant isn't endangered," he said. "It's thriving."

Hendron said wildlife agency officials had carefully reviewed the information from the offroad groups as well as all other information available and concluded that the plant still requires protection as an endangered species.

"We recognize this is one of the most popular off-road vehicle places in the Southwest United States," she said. "We are all working and doing our best to make sure we are bringing good science to our decisions."

Part of the problem is the very popularity of the dunes, Hendron said.

Bureau of Land Management officials have said that during a typical weekend in the winter ---- the most popular season ---- as many as 180,000 people will visit the dunes. They have said that 2.3 million visit the dunes from Halloween through Easter.

Offroad enthusiasts, who have played in the dunes for generations, on Friday said they are afraid the plant and the federal Endangered Species Act will be used to eventually shut them out completely.

"I hate to see environmentalists take it away from us," said Bridget Thorne of Valley Center. "We are not radicals. We just want to keep our sport."

Gary Haugley, owner of B&R Buggies of Oceanside, said a lot of his customers are "sand people" and that he believes the wildlife agencies want to close off all the wild, public lands.

Standing by her black Jeep, 19-year-old Jessica Patten of Valley Center said she had "grown up with the dunes and now they are trying to close it down."

"I want my kids to grow up there," she said.

Contact staff writer Tim Mayer at (760) 901-4043 or tmayer@nctimes.com
schraderrl
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300-mile-long


If only it was
glamis5150
Notice how the acreage for open area keeps increasing. "Offroaders already have access to (more than) 50 percent of the dunes," .....They fail to metion that they "temporarily' closed 50% of the 70% that was open that leaves about 35-40% of open dunes
porboy
I thought they designated the north side of the 78 as wilderness in the 70's icon_wink.gif
Cookie
QUOTE (Sanduners @ Jun 24 2004, 04:13 AM)
Picketers carried signs and vehicles were liberally decorated with slogans, including "Plants Don't Pay Taxes," "Preserve Our Offroad Lifestyle" and "Plants Don't Vote."


Is this really what the signs said??? I certainly hope not. "Taxes", "Voting", and "Lifestyle" were not the point of this rally!!! This is about access and the ESA................. pimp.gif
FROG
talk about "SPIN" ....
Sanduners
QUOTE (alxcook @ Jun 30 2004, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE (Sanduners @ Jun 24 2004, 04:13 AM)
Picketers carried signs and vehicles were liberally decorated with slogans, including "Plants Don't Pay Taxes," "Preserve Our Offroad Lifestyle" and "Plants Don't Vote."


Is this really what the signs said??? I certainly hope not. "Taxes", "Voting", and "Lifestyle" were not the point of this rally!!! This is about access and the ESA................. pimp.gif

Alex, yes there were signs that had those sayings. (don't recall the Preserve one?)
But there were SO many others. We used them ALL... rollsmile.gif

The TOP 10 from Slappy's Caption Contest

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#10. ESA:
Bad for plants
Bad for animals
Bad for the earth
Impossible for people
FIX it NOW!!!—Posted by BeachHead

#9. Humans are an important species too! –Posted by KingGlamis

#8. Plants don't pay annual fees.
Plants don't pay taxes.
Plants don't vote.—Posted by tron

#7. No more Compromise!—Posted by The Pastor

#6. 1300 species listed, 12 recovered. Less than 1% should be an F even in
junk science school. Reform the ESA!—Posted by BeachHead

#5. $24.5 Million needed to perform a study on the newest endangered
species....The OFFROADER.—Posted by Mike330R

#4. Since when does the needs of a weed out way the needs of the
people...--Posted by Mr. DUNE

#3. REFORM THE E.S.A.!!!!
NOT OUR RIDING AREAS!!!!!!—Posted by SychoCR

#2. Save our Species!
Save our Rights!
End the Special Interests!
Democracy's our fight!—Posted by Xtion

#1. Give a HOOT
Give Junk Science the BOOT


And MANY others were used.  Here is only a few...

24.5 MILLION SPENT ON A PLANT
NOT ONE DROP OF WATER USED!

30 YEARS OF ESA PROTECTION
ONLY 12 SPECIES RECOVERED!

USE REAL SCIENCE NOT JUNK!  (the #1 sign used)

TAXPAYERS MONEY SPENT ON ESA
BILLIONS TO DATE WITH NO RETURN

REFORM THE ESA
WWW.PETITIONONLINE.COM


Alex,,,We SURE learned from this... icon_blackeye.gif Won't make that mistake again...
as you will see this reporter sure searched pretty good to help us didn't he... rolleyes.gif

And I'm sure some will believe the whole story he wrote,,, like the dunes are 300 miles long... icon_wink.gif

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The Oldtimer
Unfortunately that is what happens at rallys and protests. One of my best friends spent a lot of time involved with the Teamsters union, and attended many rallys and protests. He is an educated, well spoken man and his wife is drop dead gorgeous. They clean up real well. They were always asked to attend, because the union wanted to get them on camera, or to be interviewed.

It never worked. The media ALWAYS sought out the riff raff toothless unshaven half drunk protester, ESPECIALLY if he was waving a poster that was off the wall. That's always the way it works...it doesn't have to be newsworthy...as long as it's controversial.

Although the ESA rally didn't have the riff raff, ect, ( well, maybe the guy in the chair... laughing.gif ) and none of the signs were offensive, the media STILL managed to find something that might be considered by the average person to be a little out of the ordinary.

I am not criticizing anyone here...I am just passing on what I have learned.

Sanduners sez...

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Alex,,,We SURE learned from this...  Won't make that mistake again...
as you will see this reporter sure searched pretty good to help us didn't he...


See...even the rally organizer agrees... laughing.gif

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