QUOTE (thebudman @ Mar 25 2011, 07:45 AM)

QUOTE (tinytimslaw2 @ Mar 24 2011, 09:55 AM)

But as I said, if your around them long enough.......I've known many fellas that have had unfortunate accidents...rule #1 is never cover yourself with the muzzle, you know...shoot yore buddy
If you drive a quad, DB, rail, long enough, fast enough, hard enough......
What a foolish statement: as long as one adheres to the 3 basic rules of gun safety, there
should NEVER been an accidental discharge/shooting. I have 30-plus years of handling firearms, the last 7 as a firearms instructor --- without incident-- and for a very good reason.
By your reasoning, if the next Southwest 737 I get on flies into a mountain, the pilot could shrug his shoulders and say, "We'll, if you fly these these long enough and fast enough..."I'm not trying to get in a pissing contest, I noticed you said "should" instead of "will", have you ever had a round hangfire, only to have it go off later? you know 2,3,5,10,15 seconds or 1,2,3,4,5 minutes later you know, when you weren't expecting it?, have you ever had a runaway gun (short sear, worn out or home smithed)? those are accidents, some due to negligence. have you ever expeirenced, or observed, a ringfire? what about an out of time wheel gun, shaved lead is still a projectile and I've personally seen several stitches, as a result.
I also have in excess of thirty years of handling firearms, I'm also a firearms instructor and have been for the past twenty years, I've been a range master for the past ten and have been involved in training thousands of recruits, as well as maintaining and expanding my own departments firearms training / program, if you have been handling firearms for thirt years and never had an incident, never been present when another person had an incident, never been hunting birds when someone swings their shotgun a little too close to your position, never been in a tactical situation and had someone cross their muzzle over you, never had anyone drop a loaded firarm in your presence....well you can see where this going.
As far as you 737 comment, I have heard the term "pilot error", "equipment malfunction", "terrorist activity" and "drinking and flying, although that might fall under pilot error" and if you expand that to flying, and except that anyone can pick up a gun, no training, any make and any model, even class three (if the tax stamp holder is present) and have a problem, or worse a buddy that knows even less instucting him, or even worse time two...introduce adult frothy beverages.
"But as I said, if your around them long enough....."