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SAL

Jan 9 2003, 03:01 PM

What do you guys think of this stuff for use in a banshee? and... this stuff or castor 927?

sand junkie

Jan 9 2003, 03:16 PM

I have been running Golden Spectro in 2 strokes since I bought a new 1986 250r ATC with no problems.

MWBbanshee

Jan 9 2003, 03:20 PM

EVERYONE IN OUR GROUP RUNS 927 /W/ NO PROBLEMS .

treshombre

Jan 9 2003, 03:22 PM

I've been running the Golden Spectro for years as well but.... The castor oil in the 927 mix sure smells good [Smokin]

Kinda makes you wanta get your snorkel right up to the pipe and take a big wiff [Disturbed]

I love the smell of race gas in the morning.......

DUNE

Jan 9 2003, 03:29 PM

All I've ever used is Golden Spectro in my 86 and I've had it since 87 without any problems.

Mike_HKmtrsprts

Jan 9 2003, 06:27 PM

Ive been running 927 in my bikes since 1990 with no problems plus it smells GREAT! I also us it in my rotary.The mechanic at Yamaha said it wokrs good on bikes that are riden hard alot so that would be me and I run 16 oz. to 5 gallons how about you guys? [Big Grin]

[ 01-09-2003, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: Mike_HKmtrsprts ]

RRon3

Jan 9 2003, 07:27 PM

I run Castor 927(40:1) in my bike and Carrie's Banshee, never had any problems. Golden Spectro is great as well.

In Excess

Jan 9 2003, 08:14 PM

i find this as an odd question. these are different types of oil by two different manufacturers one castor and one synthetic

the castor is a superior oil but it tends to separate from the fuel after sitting

i use super m which is equivalent to the spectro and run it at about 60:1

SAL

Jan 9 2003, 09:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by In Excess:
i find this as an odd question. these are different types of oil by two different manufacturers one castor and one synthetic

the castor is a superior oil but it tends to separate from the fuel after sitting

i use super m which is equivalent to the spectro and run it at about 60:1

It kinda wanted to know what you guys thought of golden spectro and at the same time a synthetic vs. castor question...

I always ran Yamalube, but before a trip to G, I didn't have time to go buy Yamalube, so a friend picked me up a 64 of Spectro... I've been running that and wanted to know what you guys thought of it. My buddy that got me the oil runs 927 in his banshee and he's on the same top end since 95, so I wanted to know what would you guys recommend over the two oils. I read on maxima's website that 927 is for motors that are torn down at shorter intervals. I just wanna run something that'll make my bike last long, since I don't have the cash to be rebuilding too frequently.

I'm a heavy guy, would castor 927 be better for a bike that carries a 'bigger load'? [Big Grin]

gracias

SAL

Jan 9 2003, 09:31 PM

oh yeah, castor does smell pretty good.. hehehe I should switch just for the smell

In Excess

Jan 9 2003, 09:45 PM

THATS WHY MOST PEOPLE RUN IT!!

In Excess

Jan 9 2003, 09:51 PM

Ive been running my banshee since 92 I put in one set of pistons about 2 yrs ago just because i was testing a different coating on my pistons, went with a ceramic coating on the top and a dry lube on the side and with that I tighten up the piston to cylinder clearance

Dman233

Jan 9 2003, 10:29 PM

Castor has a high film strength but burns very dirty. It will gum up power valves.

A fully synthetic is best. I've ran yamalube in the past(semi syn.) and always had a lot of carbon build up on my exaust valve when re doing the top end. For the last year or so I've ran Red-line(full syn.) and have had great results. Burns clean, no spooge and very little carbon build up.

Oh yeah, Red-line also smells good. [Smokin]

SAL

Jan 9 2003, 10:35 PM

thanks a lot for all of your feedback, guys!!

SAL

Jan 9 2003, 10:38 PM

oh yeah... should I stay with the 32:1 that I'm running?? (fmf fattys) jetted at alba, K&N single air filter, airbox w/o the lid. don't know what size jets it has, just whatever they do to their banshees when they sell 'em...

TunaTodd

Jan 10 2003, 11:06 AM

I run spectro in the green machine at 32:1 or 36:1, Mike you're running it 52:1 if your putting those little bottles into 5 gallons....I messed mine up that way.

SAL

Jan 11 2003, 01:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tecateman:
I run spectro in the green machine at 32:1 or 36:1, Mike you're running it 52:1 if your putting those little bottles into 5 gallons....I messed mine up that way.

16 ounces to 5 gallons is 40:1

640 ounces in 5 gallons... 640/16=40

640/20=32 <--32:1

BamBam

Jan 12 2003, 10:48 AM

I like the smell of Golden Spectro and of Castor. I run BelRay H1-R 50:1 now in my bike. Always ran BelRay products. But, they are all good oils. It's all just a preference.

SAL

Jan 12 2003, 11:02 AM

can you run lean ratios like 40:1 or even leaner on a banshee?? I run at 32...

Shane-0

Jan 12 2003, 04:01 PM

I know lots of guys that run 40:1 in Banshees, although most run at 32. I run Spectro 40:1 in a 1982 YZ465. Air cooled even. Runs great. If you think 927 smells good, you should try Torco GP7 in Unocal 110. Now that smells gooood.

[ 01-12-2003, 04:07 PM: Message edited by: Shane-0 ]

TunaTodd

Jan 13 2003, 10:09 AM

my bad, I'm thinking of the little bottles, not sure of the size but they say 52:1 on the back I think.

tomfish1

Jan 14 2003, 12:29 AM

i used to use 927 exclusively but when i put a new top end in my cr250 the power valve was really gummed up bad. so i changed to super m and the next top end job the powervalve was almost spotless almost no goo at all.I do all my friends top ends and have had them switch to super m because it makes the job much easier and it keeps your power valve moving freely.i've always run between 32.1 and 40.1. it seems that the 927 only smells good because it costs more and gums up. [Smokin]

SAL

Jan 13 2003, 03:02 PM

what a trip... so many different outcomes from people using oil... I guess that's what makes it hard for me to choose. I liked the spectro I'm using right now, but I've met a few people already who have ran their bikes for 6 years + on 927 without having to rebuild. I went and bought me a jug of 927 cuz most people say it's better lube, and since I'm a big guy I wanted more protection. Me riding is like pulling a trailer for my bike hehehehe. We'll see how it works...

MWBbanshee

Jan 13 2003, 03:07 PM

ITS NOT GOOD TO MIX SYTH & CASTROLS IF YOUR USING ONE STICK /W/ IT TILL YOU REBUILD DON'T KNOW THE SCIENCE BEHIND IT BUT THATS WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD BY PEOPEL WHO I TRUST .

SAL

Jan 13 2003, 03:11 PM

I've heard the same thing, but my friend who has had the same top end on his banshee since 95 switched from synth to castor and the thing still runs pretty strong. And, he's a big guy as well. They should just make one oil, so we wouldn't have to make decisions!! hahaha.

MWBbanshee

Jan 14 2003, 04:18 PM

BIG GUY LTTEL GUY DON'T MAKE DIFF ON MOTER BUT MAKES BIG DIF ON THE CLUTCH ,THATS WHAT A BIG GUY WILL WEAR OUT NOT THE MOTER FRICTION WEARS THE CYL. WALL NOT THE BIG GUY ON IT'S BACK . YOU SHOULD BE CHANGIN THE OIL IN THE GEAR BOX MORE OFFTEN THAN MOST. I USE MOTUL TRANSOIL 10W30 FOR 2-STROKE GEARBOX /W/ WET CLUTCH . JUST A THAUGHT .

Sean250r

Jan 14 2003, 09:08 PM

I guess we all have our opinions,dont we.I think this is a good question.I run Maxima 927,with V.P. c-12,in my 250r.I mix at 32/1 I have heard also,not to switch brands or types of oil,just stick with what has been in it.Good luck with whatever you choose Sal,Sean.

WaPaWeKkA

Jan 14 2003, 09:52 PM

I've used Golden Spectro for as long as I can remember with my family. I tend to blow up bikes, but then again, thats just me!

SAL

Jan 15 2003, 10:24 AM

wapawekka... do you ride that crazy?? I take it you're not a saleman for spectro.. hahah

tomfish1

Jan 15 2003, 10:45 AM

If you ride a two stroke the goal is not to see how long you can go between topends! If you ride your bike at all and even more if you go to the dunes it is very important to change your topend once a year at least. or at least the rings. two strokes work very hard and need service. If you do you will notice huge power gains. your buddy who has not changed his top end in his banshee since '95 LOL i bet i could run up the hill faster than him on that clapped out bike [Big Grin]

. run that 927 perfume and then open her up after 6 mo and tell me what you see [Wink]

(just remember top ends are cheaper than cylinders and cranks)

SAL

Jan 15 2003, 11:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by tomfish1:
If you ride a two stroke the goal is not to see how long you can go between topends! If you ride your bike at all and even more if you go to the dunes it is very important to change your topend once a year at least. or at least the rings. two strokes work very hard and need service. If you do you will notice huge power gains. your buddy who has not changed his top end in his banshee since '95 LOL i bet i could run up the hill faster than him on that clapped out bike . run that 927 perfume and then open her up after 6 mo and tell me what you see (just remember top ends are cheaper than cylinders and cranks)

so are you recommending 927?? or are you not recommending it?

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