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BeachHead
I've got a couple dumb questions, and I think this might be the right place to ask them. The BLM has indicated the fees will stay the same for the 2005 season. There is a chance that Congress will authorize money to cover the species monitoring, and perhaps the ISDRA might even have surplus money from this years budget for any number of wierd reasons within the government's financial structure.

My question then is what would this money be spent on? I know fee demo is supposed to be to provide service and infrastructure improvements, and apparently provide some backfill to pay for extra law enforcement activities. I am assuming that the TRT members would provide "input" to the BLM as to what would be the best use of these funds, is that correct? If so, what data will be used to make and prioritize these recommendations? Will we the average joe duner be able to provide input prior to the TRT making recommendations, and will we be informed as to the position of the TRT before these recommendations are formally presented to the BLM?
jhitesma
The TRT has been conducting a survey to answer a lot of those questions. Printed copies were given out on several weekends at the end of last season and there is an on-line version that will be available soon. I witnessed first hand BLM rangers giving the poll out to people at the south dunes cleanup last year.

I know about the online version because I've been helping Glenn and the TRT make the it secure and reliable as well as protected against fraud and vote stuffing. It should be live VERY soon.....in fact I would not be surprised if it was taken live this week but that's not my department icon_biggrin.gif


The Pastor
Is the TRT a function of the Demo Fee law or are they a function of the BLM in general?
Because after next year there will be no Demo Fee and any work done to figure out how to spend the millions and millions of dollars will only apply to this year.
Same thing with the species monitoring thing. Demo Fee dollars won't get spent on species monitoring, but after next year there is no Demo Fee and anything that is put in place to replace it will not have any such restriction (possibly).

My sinicism tells me that if any money is saved it will be used to purchass things or to bring in more cops.
But, there won't be any extra money. No such thing in Government.

PastorVor
BeachHead
QUOTE (The Pastor @ Jul 19 2004, 06:32 PM)
My sinicism tells me that if any money is saved it will be used to purchass things or to bring in more cops.
But, there won't be any extra money. No such thing in Government.


Oh Pastor...there is always money in the government...you just have to know what pocket it's in..icon_wink.gif In fact, one of the toughest things to do in the government is find that money to get what you need accomplished. Some are better than others at it..icon_smile.gif All kinds of crazy things happen..who knows, the money to pay for this years eco nazi mandated wasteful species monitoring b.s. might even magically appear because some other agency had extra money laying around that had to be spent in that arena, and there has been enough political pressure by folks like the ASA to force the politicians to use it at Glamis. Trust me, I've seen stranger things.

And your concern about just being spent "buying" things is an extremely valid concern. As a federal employee, I see it year in and year out...Managers saying we can't afford to buy a pencil to do the job all year long, but come the last week of the fiscal year, and they're upgrading their 11 month old computer, office drapes, office chair, desk, oh, and here's two pencils young man!! I believe the TRT needs to become extremely vigilant with respect to the financial affairs between now and the start of the next fiscal year (Oct 1). They need to make sure that if extra dollars somehow magically appear that it's spent on things for duners, not blm rangers tahoes, buggies, atv's, uniforms, computers, radios, parties, etc. etc. IF the fee demo goes away, there's a very short window where there "might" be some "windfall" dollars...might as well see to it that the people who use the dunes get some benefit.

That's one of the reasons I thought it would be good to know what priorities the TRT would pass along to the blm.
LoBuck
QUOTE (BeachHead @ Jul 19 2004, 03:26 PM)
I've got a couple dumb questions, and I think this might be the right place to ask them. The BLM has indicated the fees will stay the same for the 2005 season. There is a chance that Congress will authorize money to cover the species monitoring, and perhaps the ISDRA might even have surplus money from this years budget for any number of wierd reasons within the government's financial structure.

My question then is what would this money be spent on? I know fee demo is supposed to be to provide service and infrastructure improvements, and apparently provide some backfill to pay for extra law enforcement activities. I am assuming that the TRT members would provide "input" to the BLM as to what would be the best use of these funds, is that correct? If so, what data will be used to make and prioritize these recommendations? Will we the average joe duner be able to provide input prior to the TRT making recommendations, and will we be informed as to the position of the TRT before these recommendations are formally presented to the BLM?

Beachhead - I agree that there is a chance that Congress will authorize money to cover species monitoring. Unfortunately, I not holding my breath that it will be this fiscal year. I haven't looked that the ISRDA budget lately (that is something I need to do), but last I recall there was substantial shortfall projected even without the monitoring. That's not to say that the FY will end that way, since we haven't see the latest buget updates yet its too early to say.

If there is a surplus, and even if there is not, the TRT definately wants input from "joe duner". Always. As Jason mentioned the Dune User's Survey has been out in paper form for sometime and we have received a lot back. Their results still need to be tallied.

The on-line Survey will be "live" in a few days. We have been working though some bugs and making sure the survey is operating properly and is secure as Jason also mentioned. I will post here when it is Live.

Efforts most definately will be made to inform dune users of the results of the survey. Just to be clear, the TRT is the executive sponsor of the Dune Users Survey, not the BLM. As such, this is your voice to the TRT. The survey will give the TRT, and in-turn the BLM, input from "joe duner".

One more thing about the survey. This survey has not cost the dune user a cent to produce. The printing cost, including the paper, was donated in full by Sun Graphics in Yuma, AZ. (2500 2-sheet, double-sided; and more as we need them) If you happen to see their manager, Glen Sparkin, say Thanks. The web site hosting and design is being done by MGM Designs, Jason Hitesman and Matt Molenar. Please say Thanks to them also.

We are very lucky to have people like this step up. Heres mine again. THANKS!
LoBuck
QUOTE (The Pastor @ Jul 19 2004, 06:32 PM)
Is the TRT a function of the Demo Fee law or are they a function of the BLM in general?

Brian, Without going back and confirming, I'm can't give you a "for sure" answer to that.

I will say that its my recollection that the current TRT is operating beyond (after) the expired agreement, a result of Fee Demo, with the BLM that originally formed the TRT. The current TRT is operating under a different mission statement because of this as well. I would assume that the TRT could continue to exist without Fee Demo existing provided the BLM, not just local but DC, wanted it to.

Good question!
BeachHead
Glenn..Thanks for taking the time to respond. And of course, thanks to all of those who are giving freely to keep our access to the dunes. Please keep a very vigilant eye on the budget as we near the end of the fiscal year. I am well aware of how that "expiring" money suddenly appears the last week of the fiscal year, and things have to be spent in a hurry. This is a FACT, not a jab at the blm. IF this were to occur, it would be a feather in the TRT's cap to have presented the blm with "our" wish list for end of year funds.
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