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Opposing views on ESA offered by farmers, tribes

KLAMATH FALLS, Ore. - Crowds estimated at more than 500 filled the streets of Klamath Falls Saturday morning, some in protest and some in support of the Endangered Species Act (ESA).

A group from Siskiyou County made the trip to Klamath Falls to support farmers in the Klamath Basin and attend a congressional field hearing to examine the Endangered Species Act.

The ESA has been blamed for impacting the lives of all segments of society in the Klamath Basin, especially since water was cut off to irrigators in 2001 to protect the endangered sucker fish and coho salmon downstream from Iron Gate Dam, causing millions of dollars in damage and losses to the farming community. A National Research Council report later questioned that decision, claiming that it had been based on bad science.

The mood was not one of celebration, as a large group of marchers in support of agriculture made their way silently down Main Street towards the Ross Raglund Theater.

FFA and 4-H kids in uniform led the parade with a horseback group and adults following behind carrying signs demanding changes or even the repeal of the ESA. Opponents of the ESA say it places animals like sucker fish ahead of people.

Those supporting the water and fishing rights of Native American tribes marched from the other end of town, with the two meeting up at the theater. Klamath tribe members shouted out "what about the treaties" and "what about our rights," while a group of young men chanted to the sound of drums in the back of a pickup as they made their way through the parade route.

Once at the theater, several speakers including California Assemblyman Doug LaMalfa and Yreka rancher Bill Krum gave their thoughts on what to do to make the ESA workable.

Some called for its repeal, others demanded peer review, but everyone who spoke agreed that in its present form, the ESA is not working.

Troy Fletcher, speaking on behalf of the Yurok Tribe and the Klamath River Inter-Tribal Water Commission said, "The bottom line is the federal government is failing in their promises to all people - tribal people included. The message today is the ESA is not working."

Once inside the theater, five congressman representing Southern Oregon and Northern California conducted a field hearing to discuss the good and bad points of the ESA and what needs to be done to ensure enough water for the competing interests in the Klamath Basin. Congressman George Radanovich is not from this area and did not have first-hand knowledge about the problems in the Klamath Basin, but asked the panel of experts if they knew what would happen if an investigation was conducted into the 200 tons of sludge pumped into the

Potomac River in Washington, D.C., every year, and if it would have had the same impact on the community as the water shutoff in the Klamath Basin did in 2001.

The field hearing was intended to be an information gathering session by Congress. Members on the panel gave prepared statements and answered questions during the three-hour session. However, at the end of the day, the only agreement reached was that peer review is needed before decisions are made that impact the Klamath Basin, but there appeared to be a lot of gaps in what is being done and what can be done to make the ESA a viable solution to competing demands for water in the Klamath Basin from agriculture, the tribes, the fishing industry and the environmental community.

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JET
I am just curious, can someone explain the connection between treaties with Indians and the ESA?
Crowdog
QUOTE (JET @ Jul 20 2004, 07:35 PM)
I am just curious, can someone explain the connection between treaties with Indians and the ESA?

It's all about water...... The article below is different, but might help answer your question.

Jon
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Landmark tribal water rights deal nears Senate floor
By JODI RAVE of the Missoulian

Senate committee members Tuesday assured quick passage of one of the largest tribal water rights agreements in the West.

Nez Perce tribal leaders and Idaho officials testified before the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs for the Nez Perce-Snake River Water Rights Act. Both sides declared victory for tribal and non-tribal water users.

The estimated $193 million agreement could put to rest 180,000 river water claims.

"We think it's one of the most important decisions for Indian water rights in the country," said Michael Bogert, an attorney for the state of Idaho.

Sen. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, asked the tribe and state to work out final details so the committee could approve it when it returns from recess after Labor Day.

Nez Perce Chairman Anthony Johnson said the agreement honors the tribe's long-standing aboriginal claims to fish and water in the Snake River basin.

Johnson thanked the committee for moving quickly to hear testimony on an agreement only made public in May after five years of confidential negotiations.

"It provides certainty for the Nez Perce tribe as well as certainty for our water users," said Bogert, who called the agreement a model for future tribal water settlements.

The agreement addressed three major points of concern - in-stream flows for farmers and ranchers; the Endangered Species Act; and reserved water rights for Indians.

The proposal would allow the Bureau of Reclamation to purchase up to 60,000 acre feet of water while continuing its lease of 427,000 acre feet of the Snake River. Provisions are also included for increased flows for salmon recovery. Finally, the agreement would protect the tribe's treaty-based fisheries.

"One of the perennial problems in the West is the settlement of Indian water claims, and it stems from a federal court case," said Raymond Cross, a University of Montana law professor.

That 1908 Supreme Court case, known as Winters v. U.S., dealt with the Milk River and Montana's Fort Belknap Indian Reservation.

The Winters decision proclaimed tribes' right to future water use, and it "stirred up a storm in 1908," Cross said.

Then in 1952, Congress passed the McCarran Amendment, allowing state water courts to determine and quantify Indian reserve claims.

"States take differing attitudes toward the Indian reserve rights claim," Cross said. "Montana may have taken a more modern attitude when it adopted its water code."

The state opted to negotiate water claims instead of litigate. Five of seven Montana tribes have state-approved compacts.

Montana has not reached settlements with tribal leaders of the Flathead and Blackfeet reservations. Irrigation water once intended for the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes is used by non-Indians on the Flathead.

That creates "practical, economic, structural wrinkles that now complicate how they would work out these deals," with the Salish and Kootenai, Cross said. "The tribe has taken a rather strict attitude of who's going to administer the water rights."

Susan Cottingham, director of the Montana Reserved Water Rights Compact Commission, said the Salish and Kootenai tribes have a more complicated relationship with the state over water use.

"The Montana Supreme Court has had a series of lawsuits brought to it by the tribe to force the state not to issue any new permits until their water rights are settled. The Supreme Court agreed."

Of the five tribes with state-approved agreements, only two - the Chippewa Cree and Northern Cheyenne - have congressional approval.

"The most ironclad, bullet-proof agreements are of course those settlements approved by Congress," Cross said. "Agreements that don't have that are simply bargains."

As for the Nez Perce, the settlement was touted as a win-win for tribes and the state.

"It's an example of creativity in settling contentious water rights in the West," said Michael Olsen, a Bureau of Indian Affairs attorney.

Nez Perce, Idaho and congressional leaders have until March 31, 2005, to finalize the proposal. If the state and tribe do their part, Inouye promised quick passage of the bill.

"This will be our Christmas present to you, sir," the retiring senator said to the Nez Perce chairman.
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