Full Version: Price To Pc My Z Frame?
I know there are quit a few powder coating places down here inlakeisde/elcajon/santee, but i was wondering how much or an estimate it would cost to powder coat my Z frame candy apple blue or translucent blue?[/COLOR]
I WOULD BUY A NEW FRAME.... JUST BECAUSE....
why would ya do that? the Z frames do have some problems but when i do decide to powdercoat (which will be a long time) i will put the rest of the gussets on it, but why would you by another frame?
sd powdercoating off of magnolia. did my KTM frame in a 2 stage powder, along with clutch cover, ignition cover, 2 powervalve covers, both footpegs, and the spring for $250 OTD. looks awesome. looks normal inside, but as soon as it hits the sunlight, the thing lights up like the fourth of july. they have some awesome powder, and a fast turn-around. if you need the number let me know, or just cruise by, right across from the taco bell pretty much (and towards the airport a bit)
Powder 1 in El Cajon does 250R frames for 250ish.
Mine came out great and it's tough to scrape off.
Z's should be the same + the cost of stronger PC to help 'glue' the zuki frame together
Mine came out great and it's tough to scrape off.
Z's should be the same + the cost of stronger PC to help 'glue' the zuki frame together
thats funny mike.
Na i gusseted the uppershock mounts thats why im trying to find out prices, and when i do get the frame PC'ed im gonna gusset the other areas
theres ALOT more than the shock mounts that need gusseted on those POS frames
| QUOTE (BaNsHeE350 @ Aug 2 2004, 08:50 AM) |
| theres ALOT more than the shock mounts that need gusseted on those POS frames |
Yeah i know, between the bottom a-arm mounts and a place uner the front engine mounts, and also i think where the steering stem bolts up people had some problems there, o well its no a big deal a few bucks and then send it out to a PC, i want to get it candy apple blue or translucent blue, it, kory ellis's old Z400 had the translucent or candy apple blue and it was sweet, what color do you guys think will look good?
Let me think, umm HELL NO! maybe shovel boy wants to di his like that but i sure dont
Hot Pink
Shutup 
come on guys im serious
pink would be cute.
Shocker on a pink quad
Shocker on a pink quad
Something like a metallic blue....Do they even have that? 
wow seems like i got the best deal here on a 2 stage powder with all the prep and powder included. and it had a lot of prep.
just drive over to san diego powder and check out their colors, doesnt cost anything, and they have lots of samples to choose from....some nice pics up too.
just drive over to san diego powder and check out their colors, doesnt cost anything, and they have lots of samples to choose from....some nice pics up too.
| QUOTE (BaNsHeE350 @ Aug 2 2004, 08:50 AM) |
| theres ALOT more than the shock mounts that need gusseted on those POS frames |
hmmmmm....id guess from your nick...u dont own a Z...
my POS frame is just fine!
(prolly has a few hundred hours on it by now)
Yeah but how muc hstress do you put on your Z? are you hauling through the dunes jumping non stop, the only reason i gusseted it is because ive been riding pretty hard on track and im also runnig +2 arms with stock shocks and thats why i gusseted the shock mounts, besides once i do ever get it PC'ed ill gusset it then
| QUOTE (Dune Goat @ Aug 2 2004, 02:15 PM) |
| pink would be cute. Shocker on a pink quad |
Effinbees77, wanna chime in your opinion on Hot Pink?
I was gonna say something about that, but i didnt, i dont think he fits in them anymore, i think Los is now wearing them 
well lets see....
i just spent a week in the oregon dunes...rode prolly three times a day...prolly did 6-8 hours of ridin each day...
normallly i ride up above silverwod on sundays...to big bear and back...its maybe 50-60 miles of single track trails...
im not a huge jumper...and ive riden glen helen and pomna (when it was open
) a few times....
im not a huge jumper...so that could be the reason my frame is still fine...
to me the Z is far from the best choice in the sand (way underpowered) but on the trails the bike is a dream.
i just spent a week in the oregon dunes...rode prolly three times a day...prolly did 6-8 hours of ridin each day...
normallly i ride up above silverwod on sundays...to big bear and back...its maybe 50-60 miles of single track trails...
im not a huge jumper...and ive riden glen helen and pomna (when it was open
) a few times....im not a huge jumper...so that could be the reason my frame is still fine...
to me the Z is far from the best choice in the sand (way underpowered) but on the trails the bike is a dream.
I DK WHAT IT WOULD HURT GETTING A NEW ONE, EXCEPT YOUR WA;LET, BUT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS WORK A LITTLE BIT AND IT'LL ALL BE THERE.... THATS JUST WHAT I WOULD DO IF YOURE PLANNING ON HAVING THIS BIKE FOR A WHILE AND RACING IT TOO....
| QUOTE (RideSand DotCom @ Aug 4 2004, 09:22 AM) |
| I DK WHAT IT WOULD HURT GETTING A NEW ONE, EXCEPT YOUR WA;LET, BUT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS WORK A LITTLE BIT AND IT'LL ALL BE THERE.... THATS JUST WHAT I WOULD DO IF YOURE PLANNING ON HAVING THIS BIKE FOR A WHILE AND RACING IT TOO.... |
i agree 100%. if you want this thing to be a serious race bike then make it into one the right way. i know there are a few specialized companies, if you research, that make frames for your bike or in the near future will be makin them. this doesnt mean you should buy a full rollin chassis but just the frame.
basically what mike330r is doing but for a race bike.
the frame would be lighter than stock and probably just as strong or stronger.
if you think about it, your a kid right now. just turning 16 or 17 and if you keep racing and get a sponser or two then you can afford it. and who knows by the time your 20 or so if you kept at it you might be like some of these big racers you talk about.
but for all in all keep going and doing what your doing to your bike and keep at it.
thats my $.02
rich
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Yeah i would go out and spend money on a new frame, but there is no way i could ever afford one, im tight in money, now, i just got me some rear 18" klaws and thats the alst thing i will be getting for a while, i just turned 16 and dont get my license until end of september, and i have to save up for gas and insurance, but i did ask the question so i know how much i need to save up seperately when i get a job to work around my school and practice hours, now i know that my Z frame will be just fine when i gusset all the necessary problem spots,
heck this is more first time racing, well besides my 3 other races, and i have only riden at elsinore 4 times and have riden el cajon 2,
el cajon by far is the harder and more punishing to my bike, if ya guys get a chance and i show you my skid ya will know how rough el cajon is to it, i dont know why but just practicing on el cajon has totally beat up my chassis skid, its an alba skid and it is really strong about 1/4" thick, and it has huge scratches and dents in it, and spot where it looked like i took a grinder to it, i think by far this has been one of m best investments, i think most of it is because i have +2 arms and stock shocks, now when i do save up for PC'ing im going to also save up for shocks, so i think i will get some front shocks and then get my frame PC'ed, i dont need top of the line elkas or custom axis or pep, it would be nice but theres no way in hell i could afford that, aslong as i have some owrks with rezies or TCS's with rezzies set-up for my weight and +2 arms and riding style ill be set, also at el cajon the tunrs are alot tighter and when it take inside or out my front shocks have so muc hextra leverage from the arms they compress alot when taking hard or even soft turns and i get lots of body roll, no matter what it stil ldoes it and i do my best, i dont have so much of a problem at elsinore with it though
now about my bike not being and mx'er, i understand its not the best bike for racing mx, but heck i dont care, it is underpowered compared to the new 450's but its still all about the rider, look at effinbees77 he smokes 450's off the line and during the race, its all about the rider
i think im doing very well so far in this being my first season racing, i got 5th out of 5th at my first race, my second race i poped a tire, and then my 3rd i got 9th out of 13, i could of done better but there was some pretty bad problems in the first moto, one was it was a diferent series and they had diferent rules and the scond is my bike was acting weird my first moto and then ran flawless the second moto,
thx for the support ya guys and im ghoping ya can see it from what im seeing
heck this is more first time racing, well besides my 3 other races, and i have only riden at elsinore 4 times and have riden el cajon 2,
el cajon by far is the harder and more punishing to my bike, if ya guys get a chance and i show you my skid ya will know how rough el cajon is to it, i dont know why but just practicing on el cajon has totally beat up my chassis skid, its an alba skid and it is really strong about 1/4" thick, and it has huge scratches and dents in it, and spot where it looked like i took a grinder to it, i think by far this has been one of m best investments, i think most of it is because i have +2 arms and stock shocks, now when i do save up for PC'ing im going to also save up for shocks, so i think i will get some front shocks and then get my frame PC'ed, i dont need top of the line elkas or custom axis or pep, it would be nice but theres no way in hell i could afford that, aslong as i have some owrks with rezies or TCS's with rezzies set-up for my weight and +2 arms and riding style ill be set, also at el cajon the tunrs are alot tighter and when it take inside or out my front shocks have so muc hextra leverage from the arms they compress alot when taking hard or even soft turns and i get lots of body roll, no matter what it stil ldoes it and i do my best, i dont have so much of a problem at elsinore with it though
now about my bike not being and mx'er, i understand its not the best bike for racing mx, but heck i dont care, it is underpowered compared to the new 450's but its still all about the rider, look at effinbees77 he smokes 450's off the line and during the race, its all about the rider
i think im doing very well so far in this being my first season racing, i got 5th out of 5th at my first race, my second race i poped a tire, and then my 3rd i got 9th out of 13, i could of done better but there was some pretty bad problems in the first moto, one was it was a diferent series and they had diferent rules and the scond is my bike was acting weird my first moto and then ran flawless the second moto,
thx for the support ya guys and im ghoping ya can see it from what im seeing
SHOCKER - Do the prep work yourself...I'm getting quoted $120-140 from the east county shops.
What do you mean prep work? liek bead blasting it and cleaning it in solvent? theres no way i would be able to strip the whole frame of PC and primer, because theres alot of crevises and stuff a sandpaper wheel wont get into, besides by the time i get money and stuff it will be in the middle of the desert season or racing season, the only time i will have is between races, becasue i have school starting soon then i will be getting a jopb and then i have soccer now, then highschool soccer, then spring select soccer and hawaii next summer, soo i really want to do this but im going to have to wait and plan it perfect, i think maybe right after my last trip to the dunes for the season i might have time to do it, or when i go to hawaii i can send it out before and get it after,
but dang thats a good price
but dang thats a good price
Get a heavy duty metal stripper. I'm going to work on it tonight on my Banshee frame, I'll let you know how it goes...
Is it like a paint stripper, or what? yeah let me know how it works, i mean $140 to PC my frame is a great great price, i wonder how much to PC it candy apple blue 
here is a pic someone photoshoped for me, i dont like how they did the hubs and the a-arms but i like the frame
here is a pic someone photoshoped for me, i dont like how they did the hubs and the a-arms but i like the frame
Well the people telling him to buy a new frame. Need to do a little homework. Gussetting the frame will make it stronger than a new LRD aluminum frame. As several people now have a problem with that frame breaking. It must be a problem with the design, since LRD no longer makes frames.
im just sayin he seems to be really into racing and sounds like he wants to take this to the next level. and gussetting the frame is a good idea but he might want to reserch and see if someone out there makes a frame that works for him.
the frame idea(only when i spoke about it) would be years down the line and when he was into some serious level racing.
but sounds like the youngester is on his way.
the frame idea(only when i spoke about it) would be years down the line and when he was into some serious level racing.
but sounds like the youngester is on his way.
| QUOTE (SHOCKER @ Aug 2 2004, 01:23 PM) |
| Let me think, umm HELL NO! maybe shovel boy wants to di his like that but i sure dont |
WTF
sure thing hippy.....we all know who wants the pink quad
| QUOTE (Shovel Boy @ Aug 4 2004, 05:06 PM) | ||
WTF sure thing hippy.....we all know who wants the pink quad |
who you?
yes
| QUOTE (Shovel Boy @ Aug 4 2004, 05:13 PM) |
| yes |
hey careful with that wink there im not like that!
talk to rubber. thats his dept.
LMAO!!!!
See if you can have it sand blasted.. that would take that paint right off. My neighbor did his ATC250r frame in his back yard and then brought it and had it powder coated for pretty darn cheap because he sand blasted it himself.
| QUOTE (Yamiboy @ Aug 4 2004, 08:14 PM) | ||
hey careful with that wink there im not like that! talk to rubber. thats his dept. |
How did I get involved in this? Why are you fantasizing about me again Yamiboy?
You need a pink bike. Especially since I heard you ride like a biatch. Plus it'll remind you of pork. We all know how you love the sausage.
Hey shovelboy looks like ya already got your pink frame and some purple accents
Haha just joking
| QUOTE (SHOCKER @ Aug 4 2004, 05:50 PM) |
| Hey shovelboy looks like ya already got your pink frame and some purple accents |
you actualy took the time to do that??????
it must turn you on
heck it took me like 10 minutes, besides we all know you are going up to idaho just so ya can ride a pink raptor
2 can play this game
Shovelboy whines to me about shocker picking on him and even tries to get me to give him some comebacks. Meanwhile he laughs when Yami*** tries to rag on me.. 
I'm guessing shovel boy will have a hot pink frame, rainbow seat and a cute little barbie basket on the front of his bike before too long.
I'm guessing shovel boy will have a hot pink frame, rainbow seat and a cute little barbie basket on the front of his bike before too long.
| QUOTE (Rubberneck @ Aug 4 2004, 06:41 PM) |
| a cute little barbie basket on the front of his bike before too long. |
BASKETS RULE!!
| QUOTE (Rubberneck @ Aug 4 2004, 06:41 PM) |
| Shovelboy whines to me about shocker picking on him and even tries to get me to give him some comebacks. |
BTW, why wouldn't I go to you for a comeback, if I dont have any why not go to the person that is the best at making fun of people?
WhoCares.
| QUOTE (Rubberneck @ Aug 4 2004, 06:41 PM) |
| Shovelboy whines to me about shocker picking on him and even tries to get me to give him some comebacks. Meanwhile he laughs when Yami*** tries to rag on me.. I'm guessing shovel boy will have a hot pink frame, rainbow seat and a cute little barbie basket on the front of his bike before too long. |
ahahahahaha
this topic has got way out of hand
| QUOTE (Rubberneck @ Aug 4 2004, 05:37 PM) | ||||
How did I get involved in this? Why are you fantasizing about me again Yamiboy? You need a pink bike. Especially since I heard you ride like a biatch. Plus it'll remind you of pork. We all know how you love the sausage. |
OMG...LMFAO!!!!
im sorry andrew...but that one was good!!!!
(besides...i know andrew can take a joke)
| QUOTE (SHOCKER @ Aug 4 2004, 01:40 PM) |
| i have soccer now, then highschool soccer, then spring select soccer and hawaii next summer, |
Blah Blah Blah Soccer soccer soccer... SOCCER IS GAY!!! Drop it and you will have more time for what you really want, RIDING!!! Soccer won't take you anywhere anyhow. How many pro soccer players do you hear about? Do you want to live in Europe? Don't be a wuss tell yo mama you don't want to play with balls anymore. Tell her "I WANNA RIDE!!!"
| QUOTE (Ozzyite @ Aug 4 2004, 08:27 PM) | ||
Blah Blah Blah Soccer soccer soccer... SOCCER IS GAY!!! Drop it and you will have more time for what you really want, RIDING!!! Soccer won't take you anywhere anyhow. How many pro soccer players do you hear about? Do you want to live in Europe? Don't be a wuss tell yo mama you don't want to play with balls anymore. Tell her "I WANNA RIDE!!!" |
Hey soccer got me to hawaii last year, and next summerguess what soccer is back to hawaii, and how many times haveyou been to hawaii
haha
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