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250rk5
anyone not runnin an airbox at dunes??
what are some good ways to keep filter clean ???
maybe i should put it baack on????
its a k&n filter
any know where to get good after market engine upgrades for an 250r atc?? pimp.gif
bigbadKTM
i used to run a nylon stocking over mine filter with no airbox, or you can buy a pre-filter. as for parts check out duncan racing, dennis kirk, rocky mountain atv. its a very popular bike with many parts available. you could upgrade with a boyesen rad valve, pipe and silencer, port and polish.

maybe rro3 will chime in with some help, he still has his.
treshombre
Same engine as the 86 TRX

http://www.ctracing.com/trx250r.htm

http://www.duncanracing.com/atvproducts/

You didn't say what year the wheeler was.

I assume you have the bike jetted for the clamp on.

If the bike is a 85-86 I would recomend keeping the air box.

The air dam smooths out the air entering the carb. You could still run a K&N ..
Some people don't trust the K&N in the sand, I run them but only because I make sure they are well charged (oiled ) and always run a outerwear prefilter on them.

I'm sure Aftermarket has forgotten more than I know about R motors....
but hey She can't live on the board like the rest of us laughing.gif
HA2
I run the esr air box eliminator with an outerwear.


when things come to externals like pipes and intakes, it becomes bike specific and not so much engine. you have to cut off one of the air box prongs to install the airbox eliminator kits.

keep it oiled and DONT clean it too often.
SANDFANATIC
Have you thought about running it with the box on, but keeping the lid off? That is how I run all my bikes. You get more air, but at the same time you help your filter fight against to much sand.
DUNE
I don't run a airbox. It makes getting into the carb allot EZer and removing the filter for cleaning a breeze. Just make sure you use a outerwear over your filter..

I got my filter mount from James Lucky, they have allot of stuff for the R's ...
Mike330R
I also run the ESR kit. I did not have to cut any tabs. I did use a couple large hose clamps to secure it to the frame. Without them it was a tad 'floppy'

Works great unless you hit water. That's a big NO-NO!

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HA2
that's why it's called the TRX Air Box Eliminator. It doesnt fit on the trike frames due to the stock air box prong in the way.
BillerOne
If you run no air box, you should probably get the eliminator kit. Too much up and down movement (whoop sections) can cause the air filter to pull right out of the intake tube to the carb. On most bikes the carbs 'float' between the air box and the cylinder. If you get rid of the airbox, the carb, and filter are both hanging from the cylinder, which can cause the thing to pull right off the bike. ALWAYS run a pre-filter/filter sock/precharger, air box or not, that way if you have more that one of them, you can swap them out mid-weekend for a quickie filter clean.
DUNE
The kit I used uses those stock airbox prongs and also holds the brake res...
HA2
the ATC prong is different than the TRX. That's why the kits are usually for TRX only.
RRon3
I run a air box with no lid with a K&N and outerwear, bought it like this. I would run an air box if I were you, but you can get by without it if you are only riding sand. Just be sure you maintain your filter.

Also, be sure to re-jet it if you took off the box. Otherwise it will be way lean with that much more air and grenade.gif
Sm0k3d
my neighbor ran his once without airbox, he had to jet up around 200 for the main jet. He accually felt a loss in power compared to running it with an airbox w/o lid. Now he has an airbox back on w/o lid running a 170 main. 1986 atc250r.
treshombre
What main you runnin James?
RRon3
QUOTE (treshombre @ Aug 13 2004, 06:53 PM)
What main you runnin James?

158 moofer icon_biggrin.gif
250rk5
so i could just use a stocking and be okay??
i havn't been runnin a precharger ever since the k&n one it came with got dirty and that was a while ago. Should the engine be okay?how bout the filter??i cleaned it on a reg. basis but i seen above that i shouldn't do that.should i buy a new filter??not long ago i was on a night ride when i hit a puddle i didn't fly through i kinda skidded to it then when i got to the edge of hit i downshifted and hit the gas to pull the front wheel up and stopped in it u think water might have got sucked into the filter. i shut if off immediatly icon_uhoh.gif
whats a good jet to run at glamis with no airbox,fmf reeds and exhaust and 88 headgasket(thinner) unsure.gif
RRon3
I don't know what jet you should run. Maybe someone here has the same set-up and can give you a ball park figure. That being said, all bikes are diffferent. You are going to have to richen it up quite a bit since the motor will be getting a lot more air. i would start off way fat and go down from there.
250rk5
that means go up in size????go with the higher #s im runnin a pretty high number jet as it is.i think that means its richer??what way richins and leans out on the air/fuel mix screw unsure.gif
Toy Collector
Some more info...

http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/index....hl=250r+problem
250rk5
ALSO SINCE IM RUNNIN A THINNER HEAD GASKET COULD I USE 91 OCTAEN OR SHOULD GO 105???I HEARD I WAS SUPPOSE TO RUN 105 TO 110 AND THATS WHAT IVE BEEN DOIN
IVE BEEN RUNNIN 6OZ TO 1GL INMY GAS
Toy Collector
I have a CR gasket, used to run 50/50 91 and race gas but, out of laziness I don't use the race gas anymore. Honestly, I haven't noticed any difference.

I heard "use it" and "don't use it".
250rk5
do u mean 50/50 as in a 5gl jug with 2.5gls of gas and 2.5glns of oil icon_confused.gif
dunerash
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do u mean 50/50 as in a 5gl jug with 2.5gls of gas and 2.5glns of oil 

I think he means 2.5 gals of racegas mixed with 2.5 gals of 91 oct.
If your compression is over 200# you should run race gas or a mix like he said. If your carb is stock I would think your main should be around 155-160. Like RRand on 3 said start high(bigger #) and work your way down till it isnt blubbering on the top end. I dont run any airbox on my trike just k/n and outerware. Good luck.
treshombre
Here's a good link to learn how to jet your bike.
It also covers fuel.

http://www.eric-gorr.com/twostktech/carbtuning.html
Toy Collector
QUOTE (dunerash @ Aug 15 2004, 06:45 AM)
QUOTE
do u mean 50/50 as in a 5gl jug with 2.5gls of gas and 2.5glns of oil 

I think he means 2.5 gals of racegas mixed with 2.5 gals of 91 oct.

Correct.

HA2
i'd try a 160. stock is like 145 or some garbage.

i run a 170 at glamis.
HA2
run a stocking or outerwear and clean the outerwear on a regular basis and inspect the K&N often but dont clean it as often as the outerwear. all the older guys say the more you mess with the K&N's the less they work. the more you clean it the more you break down the gauze and having a little bit of sand on the filter helps the filtering process.

always check your intake track for dirt.
Toy Collector
QUOTE (HA2 @ Aug 15 2004, 12:15 PM)
always check your intake track for dirt.

Exactly.

This is what I do with my Integra... MUCH more money invested in that motor... it has a cold air intake about 3" from the ground.

I keep the throttle body as clean as possible so I can keep an eye on what gets through the filter.

I tend to leave that K&N a "little bit dirty". Road oil helps with that though.

250rk5
blubbering means as in not raping out in the high gears??
HA2
this is what i mean. user posted image
treshombre
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RRon3
Wow Tres, that thing looks great. Good job icon_biggrin.gif
treshombre
Go to bed moofer!! laughing.gif
treshombre
The last pic was today....

2 1/2 months to get there...

Started 1st kick icon_biggrin.gif


Sorry for the hijacking laughing.gif
24v
WOW Tres!! The atc is lookin great! Have a beer.gif for all the work. Doesn't look like a shark bit your fender anymore. laughing.gif
treshombre
Hey 24v good to see yer back on the board icon_biggrin.gif

You rollin with two yfz's this year?

or still punishing the wife with the blaster? laughing.gif

DUNE
Damn Tres that looks better then new. Nice work brother... icon_biggrin.gif
dunerash
I wanted a setup like HA2 has but could never find a intake tube to clear the rear shock.. I used the stock tube and just used the ring out of the airbox..

Tres- Bike looks great icon_surprised.gif

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HA2
that's the ESR kit.

www.esr250.com

sorry, i do not know the diameter of the tube from the carb/filter.
24v
QUOTE (treshombre @ Sep 13 2004, 07:38 AM)
Hey 24v good to see yer back on the board icon_biggrin.gif

You rollin with two yfz's this year?

or still punishing the wife with the blaster? laughing.gif

She has to be punished a little longer. We don't have the $ to make my bike faster, and buy her a new one. icon_wink.gif
More than likely we will buy another around January, or February.
BaNsHeE350
K@N's are good for clean/dustless riding spots....

better get a UNI!
HA2
last time i rode it was at my property in ocotillo (rocks). the filter and intake track are clean as a whistle and i will clean the outerwear, but im kind of busy installing a new swing arm, pro x cylinder and LRD pipe. icon_smile.gif
Toy Collector
QUOTE (BaNsHeE350 @ Sep 16 2004, 06:39 PM)
K@N's are good for clean/dustless riding spots....

better get a UNI!

I have used a K&N on my Integra for 6 years... you will NEVER see me stick a UNI filter on the cold air intake. Like I said in an earlier post, I keep a eye on my throttle body to see whats coming through. I clean it (the throttle body) a few times a year so I can keep an eye on what contaminants might be there. It's always clean.

Same goes for my bike. icon_wink.gif
77charger
airbox is the way to go.just drill holes in the lid or remove it.As for k&ns they suck.good for hiway use only everyone i have had i had probs with dirt and sand getting thru yes it was oiled and prefiltered absolute junk IMO.My brother ditched his airbox on his banshee and that thing gets alot of sand thru his filter too.Hr id going back to an airbox also.
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