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Mike330R
Honda Suspension Upgrade Package


Short description:
Ricky Stator A-arms w/ tie-rods, TCS SCS Triple rate front shocks w/ reservoirs--
$1345 w/ free shipping.
Your choice of +1/+2 or +1/+3 ˝

Available for:
250R
400EX
450R

Extras:
Front shocks without reservoirs deduct $225.00
Rear shock rebuild (dual rate) to match fronts-$400.00
Completely new rear TCS shock-$750.00
Steel braided front brake lines-$100.00


Detailed Description:

A-arm Details
In the many years of Ricky Stators being in the ATV industry and into off-road racing he had seen just about all types of A-arms. He saw some good ones and many that failed in the grueling Baja races of Mexico. He decided it was time to build a geometrically correct set of a-arms that would not fail even in the toughest of conditions.
Rick engineered the a-arms to give maximum travel with no chance of binding. They are made from 4130 alloy and all ball joint bosses are threaded for strength. This also eliminates the possibility of loosing a ball joint from a loose nut.
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Rick didn’t stop with a solid design of his a-arms he stepped it up a notch and completely redesigned the ball joint. He designed the only “true” ball joint. This means the end of the shaft that sits in the ball joint housing (cup) is the only one with a complete ball on it. All others, even the MOOG, do not have a full ball. Most ball joints are simple automotive tie-rod ends with a spring between the ball and the housing. They usually require greasing due to the metal on metal contact inside the housing. The Ricky Stator ball joint shaft sits in a proprietary plastic like cup and does not have a spring. They provide the most degrees of angle movement than any other ball joint, other than the MOOG brand, which has the same amount. Most of the top name a-arm manufacturers now use the Ricky Stator ball joints.

Included in the kits are new tie-rods which are fabricated from solid 17-4 stainless steel which are heat treated to H900. The flat for adjusting the tie-rod is created with a die press, which is stronger than a machined flat as like the OEM Hondas are.
The Arms are finished with two layers of powdercoating-one colored (silver) and one clear for durability.


How do TCS Shocks work?


TCS SCS (Sag Control Series) shocks, which come in both double and triple spring versions, have a top spring that is very soft and just serves to stretch the shock out when the wheels come off the ground. When the weight is on the quad this spring compresses. The sag of this spring is controlled by an aluminum spacer tube around the shock body which stops the sliding collar and transfers the load to the one or two main springs when the suspension is compressed to the selected ride height: Sag Control System. Changing the “preload” settings on an SCS shock will change the ride height but will not affect the spring rate.

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TCS SCS shocks differ from most aftermarket shocks in the valving. SCS shocks use ‘shim stacks’ rather then the traditional piston with different sized holes in it to pass fluid. Stacks of small metal shims are placed on both sides of the piston. When the compression or rebound force is light, these shims let oil through the piston for minimum dampening. However, when the compression or rebound force is hard, such as when landing a jump, the shims will bend and restrict the oil flow. The faster the oil tries to get through the shims the more the shims bend and restrict the oil flow. This makes the dampening proportional to the force on the shock. SCS front shocks provide additional adjustment by using reservoirs with compression dampening adjustment knobs similar to those found on rear shocks.
TCS Shocks are custom built to you and your ATV. We will need to know your weight, a-arm width, ATV model, and type of riding.
Front shocks are TRIPLE rate configurations and rear shocks are dual rate.
Turn around time is generally about 2 weeks but rarely over 30 days!
Rear shock rebuild info:
Included is dual rate springs, hard anodized body, piston kit, internal travel extension mod, seal, fluid, and labor.

Things to keep in mind:
When ordering shocks add 10 pounds to your actual weight to account for riding gear.

TRX250R rear shocks can not be rebuilt to perfectly match the SCS front shocks. There is not enough room on the shock body. He can rebuild them to be close to a true SCS, which does work very well in the rough stuff.

The next step would be to buy a whole new rear shocks which is a true SCS shock.




***Edited due to price increase on A-arms*****
Mike330R
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G1500
what parts are extra on the 450R? I was thinking about getting new shocks for my 400, but i want to get a 450 for next season, will they work on my 400 with standard a arms, then be revalved or somthing to my 450 with standars a arms, then upgradble to +2 or +3??
Mike330R
There are different/more bushings on the 450R arms. I have not seen it in person so am not 100% sure what exactly it is.

Yes shocks can be revalved at any time.
rivermobster
Awesome write up!!!

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G1500
Can the shocks on a 400ex, be swaped to a 450R?
Toy Collector
What can you offer for a '85 250R 3 wheeler with a 6" extended swingarm?

I am in desperate need of a new rear shock.
Mike330R
Couple options. A new rear is 750 built to your spec's or if your stocker is in decent shape take it to precision concepts in El Cajon and he can rebuild it to your spec's. They also can work miracles on forks.
TCS can also rebuild it to your spec's.
Toy Collector
Wow... blink.gif

$750 is a lot of money for one shock. I got four Progress coilovers for my Integra (built for my Integra) for $1,000.

Not that I'm cheap or anything but...

Does it make that much of a difference?

Mike330R
$750 is actually cheap. Look at PEP or Axis and now your over $1K.

Off-road shocks take a lot more abuse over car shocks hence that's probably part of the reason they cost so much more.

What is the condition of your stock shock?

Suspension, valved correctly, is the best upgrade. if your running your stock shock on a longer swingarm then it is probably on the soft side. This set-up has more leverage.
Toy Collector
It's definitely on the soft side for sure. The stock shock is actually pretty beat up being 20 years old and all. Not sure if I would want to bother keeping it.

I don't doubt that it can handle more abuse than a car shock, although my coilovers for my Acura aren't that simple. Also, a pair of Kings for a Tundra are $850... for two. Don't get me wrong, I know the importance of good suspension and what it can actually do... just amazed at the pricetag. That's all.

What would you recommend for a 250R with a 6" extended swingarm that doesn't race or jump... just Dunes?
Mike330R
As long as your shaft is not bent in the stocker, Precision Concepts or TCS can rebuild it to your spec's. Usually a rear conversion to SCS is $400 from TCS.

May be worth a call to Allen White at Precision Concepts. He may have a better price.
Timmay
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Your choice of +1/+2 or +1/+3 ˝


Could you explain the difference? I assume one is the width, the other is....?
Mike330R
Yes the other is the amount they extend forward.
So +1 forward/+2 wider.
G1500
I was reading on TRX450R.org, that it is recomended not to go forward, because it puts more weight on the rear. What can you tell me about that? It seems to me that each wheel supports its share of weight, whether it is forward or back. So is this guy know what he is talking about or is he pulling that out of his ass?
Mike330R
It may put more weight on the rear but that sounds odd to me. I does make your wheel base longer which can help keep the front end down and in some cases ride/handle better.
G1500
thats what I thought. It just seems odd.
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