J.A.F.O.
Jan 8 2005, 05:31 PM
N E 1 ever port & polish their intake down tube from the
carb to the head on their own? If so, what should I look out for?
Should I even attempt it? The down tube is cast aluminium and
looks jagged as hell in there ....
Fireballsocal
Jan 8 2005, 05:39 PM
If there is alot of flashing left from the casting process, that's ok to remove. The rough cast edges are actually beneficial though. It swirls and disturbs the air on the way into the cylinder, creating a mist of fuel/air that combusts better. Polishing the intake will cause the fuel to condense on the intake wall and it won't burn as well. It does make the air travel faster into the head but the mix won't burn as well.
Sandpusher
Jan 8 2005, 09:31 PM
Fireballsocal couldn't have a better job at explaining this.
Don't remove the rough surfaces. You will regret it.
Instead, if you already removed the cylinder, you can smooth out the the ports on the bottom of the cylinder and get a slight better performance.
az350x
Jan 9 2005, 06:30 AM
The more I learn about this, the more I realize I shouldn't screw with it myself. =)
MWBbanshee
Jan 9 2005, 09:59 AM
| QUOTE (az350x @ Jan 9 2005, 06:30 AM) |
| I shouldn't screw with it myself. |
Best way to save $
az350x
Jan 9 2005, 02:50 PM
| QUOTE (MWBbanshee @ Jan 9 2005, 10:59 AM) |
| QUOTE (az350x @ Jan 9 2005, 06:30 AM) | | I shouldn't screw with it myself. |
Best way to save $
|
I do most of my own maintenance and part-replacing, but modifying parts? Not for me. I'll ruin it for sure.
J.A.F.O.
Jan 9 2005, 04:14 PM
So, don't port & polish it ?
Fireballsocal
Jan 9 2005, 05:04 PM
Porting and polishing the head is completely different from the intake tube. Leave the intake alone. If you are after extra power and wanna spend the money, send your head to a reputable shop to port and polish it. This will maximize the efficiency of your valves. Flow bench testing is very beneficial in this mod and I would recommend anyone who messes with your head to flow test it also.
BamBam
Jan 9 2005, 07:22 PM
Porting is when you change the shape of your intake and rough up the surface. The rough surface doesnt affect the air so much as it does the fuel. Think of it like this: Put water on a glass surface such as a table. If you blow the water, it just runs along the smooth surface. Now, put some water on a concrete surface or sand paper, if you blow the water, it "jumps" off the surface into the air. That is what's happening in your intake when you port it. The fuel hits the rough surfaces and atomizes and mixes with the air much better.
um what bike and engine are we talking about?
Fireballsocal
Jan 9 2005, 08:14 PM
| QUOTE (Fireballsocal @ Jan 9 2005, 05:04 PM) |
| Porting and polishing the head is completely different from the intake tube. Leave the intake alone. If you are after extra power and wanna spend the money, send your head to a reputable shop to port and polish it. This will maximize the efficiency of your valves. Flow bench testing is very beneficial in this mod and I would recommend anyone who messes with your head to flow test it also. |
This was info for a four stroke. Porting and polishing is a modification done to four stroke engines and I believe it started out on automobiles. Porting is a two stroke mod that involves modifying the size, shape, and/or location of the intake and transfer ports.
i thought they use mirror like polishing on 2 stroke exhuast ports. air and gas dont need to be mixed when its already been burnt. just wants to get the hell out as quick as possible.
BamBam
Jan 10 2005, 08:13 PM
| QUOTE (HA2 @ Jan 9 2005, 09:56 PM) |
| i thought they use mirror like polishing on 2 stroke exhuast ports. air and gas dont need to be mixed when its already been burnt. just wants to get the hell out as quick as possible. |
They use a mirror polish on the head. They also change the shape of the exhaust ports. Changes the port timing a bit. All the "rough" surfaces are after the carb.
MrBudweiser
Jan 10 2005, 08:50 PM
I do my own, or should say starting to. So far between me and a buddy experiementing we have done a few cylinders with positive results everytime. Last two we did are my CR500's, the 89 needed a boost but the 84...can't wait to ride that one....that was the only mod left to do...lol.
But yes you can do it yourself, polishing is actually only done on the exhaust....help the bad get out faster. If you don't have a general idea of how it works I would not try without getting some more insite. If you think you can do it, it will save you a hefty machine shop bill but it could also cost the price of a new cylinder...kinda a crap shot....guess that don't help.
HA2
Jan 10 2005, 09:31 PM
thats what i thought.
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