angry dad
Feb 19 2005, 05:49 PM
Astars(old)
Feb 20 2005, 12:29 AM
QUOTE(angry dad @ Feb 19 2005, 05:49 PM)
Has anybody tried this?
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AD, I can't say I have but I did see a post about that on another site, I'll check into it for ya. He does have good feedback, but I can't say I have even seen this kit on a quad before. You might want to spend a few bills more and just get a-arms. But whatever works best for you.
The only thing it's going to do is widen it and then you still need to do the rear.
Here is my widening kit that I need to put on still..
BTW, You have a really cool helpful willing to listen daughter. It seams you raised her right.
24v
Feb 20 2005, 04:42 AM
Just remember, you get what you pay for. I don't know if I would trust some brackets a guy made to go woder. Just imagine if that broke while you were 4th gear pinned in a bowl. I'd rather do a-arms myself.
BaNsHeE350
Feb 20 2005, 08:32 AM
by some real arms and new shocks....that thing sucks
DUNE
Feb 21 2005, 09:41 AM
That thing doesn't give you anymore suspension just a wider stance. It's just a gimmick...
Timmay
Feb 22 2005, 12:11 PM
I'm with 24V on this one. I'd spend the extra cash for more peace of mind.
Permagrin
Feb 22 2005, 01:54 PM
Cheap is never good.
and
Good is never cheap.
Sell all your stuff Chris and get a buggy

I might have one for sale?
Screamin Ian
Feb 22 2005, 02:00 PM
seems like it would put more strain on the stock shocks, with the extra width comes extra leverage on the shocks, isnt that why they always suggest getting new shocks when you get wider arms?
monkeyboy
Feb 22 2005, 03:55 PM
Not to mention that it plays hell with all of your steering angles. You will end up with massive bumpsteer, as you steering pivots no longer are even close to your a arm pivot points.
And I would be that the brackets would break when they were stressed front to back.
shagy
Feb 23 2005, 04:46 PM
QUOTE(Screamin Ian @ Feb 22 2005, 02:00 PM)
seems like it would put more strain on the stock shocks, with the extra width comes extra leverage on the shocks, isnt that why they always suggest getting new shocks when you get wider arms?
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if the shocks are also widened (looked like it in the pic) then there shouldn't be any more extra leverage.
rivermobster
Feb 23 2005, 06:31 PM
they actually have kept all the stock geometry with that kit. but there is no way im gonna try it!!!
astars has the hot set-up!!!!
monkeyboy
Feb 28 2005, 02:08 PM
No they haven't. The a arm pivots have moved out, but the steering pivots have not. That is what causes bump steer.
Sirdunedevil
Feb 28 2005, 04:42 PM
Buy cheap ,get cheap...do it right the first time ,that way you dont have to do it again..
rivermobster
Mar 1 2005, 08:38 PM
QUOTE(monkeyboy @ Feb 28 2005, 02:08 PM)
No they haven't. The a arm pivots have moved out, but the steering pivots have not. That is what causes bump steer.
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good point. what actualy caues "bump steer" is the change in toe as the wheel moves up and down through it's range of travel. every quad out there has some degree of this. the pred suspension was designed to elminate this, but its a very difficult thing to do. no matter what...i still would not buy that kit!!!
monkeyboy
Mar 2 2005, 11:57 AM
Yes, but that change in toe is caused by the arc of the tie rod, not being the same as the arc of the centerline of the tie rod hole in the spindle.
If you remove the tie rod from the spindle, there will be no bump steer.
Moving the a arm pivot without moving the steering pivot, magnifies this greatly.
But, like you said, moot point as I wouldn't get on that quad for 100.00.
rivermobster
Mar 2 2005, 03:47 PM
QUOTE(monkeyboy @ Mar 2 2005, 11:57 AM)
Yes, but that change in toe is caused by the arc of the tie rod, not being the same as the arc of the centerline of the tie rod hole in the spindle.
If you remove the tie rod from the spindle, there will be no bump steer.
Moving the a arm pivot without moving the steering pivot, magnifies this greatly.
But, like you said, moot point as I wouldn't get on that quad for 100.00.
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onetwentyfive
Mar 2 2005, 07:36 PM
QUOTE(BaNsHeE350 @ Feb 20 2005, 08:32 AM)
by some real arms and new shocks....that thing sucks
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sorry lol
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