hey slap i know you are up on the news of the closure. i just havent heard anything about it in a long while. is it gona be lifted or will it stay??

Honestly Dan101, Slap has not been keepin up wit da news on da closure, and he sincerely apologizes about that...BUT, Slap heard a short time back dat them ugly closure stakes was a comin down in October, and Slappy PRRRAAAAAAAY DAT THEY WILL...Mr. Red Tail be wantin ta DUUUUUUUUNE wit Slap out there ya know. BUT, Slap ALLLLLSO heard dat there was other ssttuup...staaap...stippuli...AAAAHHH, other factors involved: like only a select number of acres will be opened, not all of them. Slap don't really know.

Slap DO KNOW dat the good people over at our sister board, http://www.glamisonline.org, will most likely have dat information for ya Dan101, they be havin real good info on da closures...Slap also need to get his butt over there for a visit and say hi, there be some downright slapptacious people over there dat Slappy miss rappin with...And right now, the ASA be needin our support more than ever...

[ 08-20-2002, 08:02 PM: Message edited by: Slappy ]

I have the name of a guy over at the BLM in El Centro and I got an email from him today saying that the FEIS is going to print this week and that copies should be available by next week. He is sending me the FEIS on CD Rom when it is available next week.

Very good!
I just read from Glamisonline.org that the FEIS will be out for 30 days of arguments on the first of September which leaves the NEW EIS set to be accepted on or about Oct. 1st.

Now, when the FEIS comes out, which is the plan that they put out a few months ago, revised after hearing everyones input, will be available for comment for 30 days. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE RESPOND TO THIS DOCUMENT SINCE ONCE ADOPTED IT WILL BE LAW FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS!

Anyway, I hope that answers a few questions... Keep your ears peeled...
And SoCal, let us know the MOMMENT you get that FEIS sent to ya!



Vor

One slight clarification VoR. Only those who's comments the BLM accepted from the first round of comments will be allowed to comment in this next period.

The BLM could easily do what they've done in the past and refused to include valid comments for no reason and leave a lot of pepople who deserve to be heard out in the cold. Of course as with anything the BLM does it also opens the doors for lawsuits from both sides.

Right now we all need to be alert and pay attention but the only way most people will be able to comment is through one of the organizations or individuals who's comments are responded to by the BLM. This is one of the reasons the ASA was trying to get so many people to write in their own comments and speak at the meetings durring the last comment period. Bulk letters from a generator like the CBD asked people to use and the BRC provided (and eventually for the last few days the ASA offered as well) generally get tossed out in this process and don't get included.

But no matter what the big fights are still ahead. Look at it this way:

1) We win and get a plan that is perfect for us. Then we know the CBD will sue for more closures which they've been very vocal about. Even if it returns Glamis to a scientifically sound management plan with the current closures removed the CBD has said they will not be satisifed. That means big lawsuits to fight against.

2) The CBD wins and we get a plan with the current and/or more closures. In this case we obviously have to take the offensive and again it means lots of very expensive lawsuits fighting groups with very deep pockets. And we all know how to win in court in this country

3) We get a plan the BLM considers fair with some of the closures in place. Super bad news, why? Suddenly we have to fight a two front war. We have to play defense against the lawsuits the CBD will file (remember they've made it clear that any less than the current closures and they want to go after all of the ISDRA) and we have to play offense to continue to fight to get back the dunes that were already taken from us "temporarially".

No matter what happens (Short of the CBD being labled domestic terrorists or the treasonous $*!(*&@ they are, and even then some other overfunded under brained group will take up the fight) this is going to be a long expensive fight with no end in sight.

It's wishfull thinking to say the end is near. The fight has barely begun and we need to get realistic about that. Too many people still think this is a one time threat that will go away and don't want to stand up to fight for access to their land.